Lord Kenneth Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Everything freezes. Mouse won't move, keyboard won't work. Must do a hard reset. Hardware: Athlon XP 2500+ (oc'ed to 3000+) Nvidia GeForce4 Ti4200 A7N8X Deluxe (it's an nForce2 Chipset, btw) 512 MB DDR RAM Any ideas on how I can pinpoint the culprit, whether it's software or hardware? Perhaps I need to change some settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 I have found random freezings to be video related. What video driver are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted January 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 The NVIDIA one, from nvidia.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopy Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Which one exactly ? Maybe this one ? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5328-pkg1.run I noticed there are several versions... possibly you got the wrong one (or an earlier one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted January 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 I got NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5328-pkg1.run Games work fine. TuxRacer and Chromium move smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 try using nvpart instead of agpart ..or the other way around. using nvpart worked for me. It's an option in yout XF86Config-4-file. I can work for you ... in the device-section: Option "NvAGP" "1" I also think it's video-related. Can depedend on tyour motherboard/chipset I think. Like my via-chipset. I read it doesn't perform good on agp. I'm not sure of this ..anyway, I think it's a matter if your chipset is supported well I think and more ..finding out what to use :). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopy Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 That would seem to be the right one then. How bout the video card fan or the chip fan (on motherboard). I just experienced some freeze ups and found those two fans were blocked up with dirt and not running and causing an overheat condition. I took them off and things have been fine since (tho I don't run my machine overnight anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted January 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 Everything works fine in Windows XP. I'll try out your suggestion in a little bit. Also, while you're here, could you help me with the problems I'm having with my USB wireless card? I've pinpointed the problem so it shouldn't be too hard to fix (check the Networking board). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 (edited) I have the AMD XP2500+ also (overclocked to 2200 MHz, which is I guess what you mean by yours is oc'd to 3000+) and a GeForce4 MX440 64MB DDR video card using the NVidia driver right before the one you are using (the newest one just gives me a black screen for some reason). Anyway, I have the random freezes too, but they are very far apart...maybe two a month. In my case, I have a computer that I can use to ssh into this box and kill and restart X, so it is mostly a video-related problem. I have an Asus A7V600 MoBo with a Via chipset. Anyway, I have not found the cause or fix for it. Sorry, just thought I would share a simliar experience in case anyone can find a correlation. Edited January 26, 2004 by Steve Scrimpshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I was having the same problems with nforce2 and MDK 9.2 Using the patched nvidia (video helped) but I think the main prob is the nforce2 drivers.... Sorry its running deb now.... I used knoppix to boot up and try and download the nforce source since i couldn't do it in mandrake and the rpms just kept locking it up. I tried alsorts including leaving it at a console overnight..... (fine) but it always locked up when using the NIC.... I downloaded and went to bed and woke up and knoppix was still up... Went to work, came back and it was still up.... So did a HDD install a week ago and its still hasn't crashed once. Unless anyone has really got this working otherwise I think compiling a new kernel might be the only way.... It seems to have worked with deb based kernels but always crashed on the RH/Mandrake trees. However to make things more complex I have a gig and the RPM's don't wanna work when using kernel enterprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I find that nforce2/nvidia card/nvidia driver is very picky in what irq they want. I solve my X freezing problem in my nforce2 board by using a certain version of the bios. If that is not possible, you may need to reserve certain irqs so that the nvidia card is forced to use the "safe irqs" so X freezing can be lessened, or alleviated entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 still doesn't explain why uptime on knoppix/deb is now over a week wheras Mandrake was locking twice a day!!!! (or more) No bios change or anything just hellishly good HW detection..... Perhaps your right on the IRQ's and its just detecting them better in knoppix???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Perhaps.. autodetecting stuff is a tricky business. When I was plagued by lockups, I checked my irq setting. I forgot what it was but it's definitely different from the stable bios. If I remember correctly, the safe irq is less than 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Kenneth Posted February 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I'm still having this problem. What should I do to fix the possible IRQ problem, if that is indeed the culprit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeoneil Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I'm still having this problem. What should I do to fix the possible IRQ problem, if that is indeed the culprit? I had identical problems on my nforce2 system. Since I set noapic and nolapic in lilo it has been very stable. I believe this limits the IRQ channels to 0 - 15 (ie <10 hex) I do still have problems however with a USB card reader which I have abandoned for now. This is part of my lilo.conf. If you try this, don't forget to type lilo after editing to register the changes. image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/dev/hda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="noapic nolapic devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=ht resume=/dev/hda5 splash=silent" vga=788 read-only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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