fissy

1024 kilobytes in a megabyte, divide 711000 by 1024 and you'll see its not quite so magical :-(

well it can only be good news i think... good on you mandrake :-)

yeah, have a webpage on a central server which remote users login to through a mechanism like this board (perhaps more securely). They edit a form which edits an sql database... I have this O'Reilley book "web database applications," i'd recommend it :-) edit, theres probably good documentation on the web... but if work are paying...

try changing your agp aperture size to 128M in your bios beware: might break stuff. thats just from a first look, i'll give it a better look later, its a *big* file you attached ;-)

hmmm, try posting as an attachment your dmesg and xf86config-4 files

is there actually anything wrong with it? your glx looks good, were you doing the gears test fullscreen or not? edit: the acid test for if it is working is to download and play ut2004 ;-)

probably not... i think that the AIW capabilities don't work in linux. Search for a program or package called gatos on google, i think thats your best hope.

i think whats happening is: make.sh tries to make the fglrx module for the particular version of the linux kernel you are running. To do this it needs to see the source code of your kernel. Mandrake made a catastropic oversight of not including this in the 9.2 distribution... if you search the forums you should be able to find out how to install your kernel source. its something like urpmi kernel-source. i hope you have broadband... -fissy

Hey, here is my glxinfo, lsmod and glxgears I have a Radeon 9700, so our results should be pretty similar. fissy@darwin fissy $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: ATI client glx version string: 1.3 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Radeon 9700 Athlon (3DNow!) OpenGL version string: 1.3 (X4.3.0-3.2.8) OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer, GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_vertex_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_streams, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATIX_texture_env_route, GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_shader, GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_occlusion_query, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_multitexture, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x23 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x26 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x27 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x28 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x29 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x2a 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x2b 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2c 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2d 24 tc 0 24 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2e 24 tc 0 24 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 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0 0 0 6 1 None fissy@darwin fissy $ lsmod Module Size Used by fglrx 202116 7 fissy@darwin fissy $ glxgears 7917 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1583.400 FPS 8418 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1683.600 FPS 8411 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1682.200 FPS 8369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1673.800 FPS 8492 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1698.400 FPS 8460 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1692.000 FPS 8386 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1677.200 FPS Broken pipe fissy@darwin fissy $ As you can see, i have the module "fglrx" loaded. fire gl something or other. This is the ati driver. You can see if you can get it to work by doing $modprobe fglrx as root then logging out and logging back in again. I think that restarts X, if it doesn't you might have to do it manually. Unfortunately there might be another problem. scanning down our glxinfo, they're not the same in many places. The opengl vendor and extentions are different. That might mean games aren't going to work too well... we can try and sort that out later though, first try and get direct rendering to work at all... do the modprobe fglrx and log out/login -fissy ps good luck!

direct rendering: No not yet sadly Sue, with your card you should get thousands of fps doing glxgears, the direct rendering: NO tells you that there is no hardware acceleration. when you're in the GUI, open a terminal, su to root and try this "lsmod"

fglrxconfig isn't a package in its own right, its part of the ati driver rpm afaik. I direct you here: http://www.MandrakeUsers.org/index.php?sho...indpost&p=96856 you force the ati driver rpm to install, and it replaces the libgl with its own, which is what you want. **Warning** back up your stuff in case it breaks X completely now that you have ati stuff installed, you should be able to search for fglrxconfig (updatedb again) also, make sure you have your kernel source installed.

probably didn't make the script executable (just a guess)

did the sound work again after a reboot? ie does xmms kill it until the next time you start up your computer? if you think something is hogging your soundcard you can do this: fuser /dev/sound/mixer if it gives you a process using it, kill it and try again

damn why didn't i think of that the conflicting libgl is always the problem in mandy...

don't try them! not yet anyway, try and get a basic gui working first, then have a go at making evil ati video accleration work.

you don't have to offer software for download to comply with the gpl, you just have to offer the sources should you provide it. I don't think you can download RedHats server products for example. -fissy

whats your setup in windows xp? you could just find the ip address/gateway/dns info there and put it into linux as statically set information, ie, ignore the dhcp server. hope i'm not teaching you to suck eggs -fissy

problem is that evil ati card... i bet $100 on that *checks to see if board has address* if you can paste your xf86config-4 here, please do so, and we'll see if it can be changed... also, try running /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config as root, and making yourself a new config file. Choose the most basic options you can, use the vga driver, don't try radeon. Choosing the monitor sync rates is tricky... use the web or your instructions. sorry if i'm repeating/conflicting with old advice, i didn't see the other thread.

fissy@darwin fissy $ which fglrxconfig /opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig you might need to try searching for it: updatedb (as root) locate fglrxconfig it ought to be there, its a standard part of the ati drivers, i doubt mandrake would remove it, its useful (i could be wrong) i'm looking into the opengl-update thing

disclaimer: i have set mine up, but in gentoo you don't need to uninstall mesa afaik, i just do this "opengl-update ati" and that means the system uses ATI's opengl as for disabling DRI in the config file, the best thing to do is just run ATI's XF86config-4 file maker "fglrxconfig." You might have to search your system for that utility.

i've managed to do it, but only in gentoo sadly :-( i gave up in mandrake because of other problems

damn, perhaps if you're getting stuck on a particular point you could ask here? theres a chance someone will know, you're probably not the only mac user on the boards :)

silly question, can you not do a text install?

the reason is, there is no opensource driver to use xfree86-dri with (for your card). You HAVE to use the ati driver's dri implementation. did you try and delete libGl to install that driver?

the driver for nforce mobos in 2.6 is actually in the kernel, you don't need to use nvidia's driver, thats the point ;-) you might need to re-configure/recompile/reinstall your kernel though. I didn't realise that some people had problems with this driver though, i installed 2.6 and it worked fine. (my mobo is a shuttle mini pc sng41, or something that looks similar ;-) )