Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 :sad: Sorry, this doesn't work. I made a link to the plugins (to nphelix.so and nphelix.xpt) in the hidden Mozilla directory - no result - then I tried Greg's method of making a link in the components directory (to nphelix.xpt)- the same. It really seems from where I'm sitting that the problem is that Mandriva absolutely wants to open up the links with mplayer, but that it can't becasue it doesn't have the Realplayer codecs (can I copy them into mplayer?). Is there a way of completely wiping out both mplayer and Realplayer from the system (I ask this because I have tried using urpme but this method doesn't totally erase the programmess)? If I could do that, then perhaps I could re-install Realplayer and Mandriva would use it to open the links? I should add that I have already tried removing mplayer, but that all that happens is that I get a blank screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Now we have got this far the thing to do is open firefox and type in the address bar about:plugins there you should see all the plugins that have been installed into firefox. Report back. Don't try and uninstall anything and definitely don't copy the codecs into mplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 OK, I have some good news :D :D :D But first the plugins. I've copied the relevant ones below: VLC multimedia plugin File name: libvlcplugin.so VLC multimedia plugin version 0.8.5 Janus VideoLAN WWW: http://www.videolan.org/ MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes audio/x-mpeg MPEG audio mp2,mp3,mpga,mpega Yes video/mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes video/x-mpeg MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe Yes video/mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe,vob Yes video/x-mpeg-system MPEG video mpg,mpeg,mpe,vob Yes video/mpeg4 MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes audio/mpeg4 MPEG-4 audio mp4,mpg4 Yes application/mpeg4-iod MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes application/mpeg4-muxcodetable MPEG-4 video mp4,mpg4 Yes video/x-msvideo AVI video avi Yes video/quicktime QuickTime video mov,qt Yes application/x-ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes application/ogg Ogg stream ogg Yes application/x-vlc-plugin VLC plugin Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Windows Media Video asf,asx Yes video/x-ms-asf Windows Media Video asf,asx Yes application/x-mplayer2 Windows Media Yes video/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv Yes application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google VLC pluginaudio/wav :WAV audioaudio/x-wav::WAV audio: Yes Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible File name: nphelix.so Helix DNA Plugin: RealPlayer G2 Plug-In Compatible version 0.4.0.622 built with gcc 3.2.0 on Jul 18 2006 MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin RealPlayer Plugin Metafile rpm Yes Google VLC multimedia plugin 1.0 File name: mplayerplug-in-gmp.so mplayerplug-in 3.25 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/x-google-vlc-plugin Google Video Yes QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 File name: mplayerplug-in-qt.so mplayerplug-in 3.25 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled video/quicktime Quicktime mov Yes video/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes image/x-quicktime Quicktime mov Yes video/quicktime Quicktime mp4 Yes video/quicktime Quicktime - Session Description Protocol sdp Yes application/x-quicktimeplayer Quicktime mov Yes application/smil SMIL smil Yes RealPlayer 9 File name: mplayerplug-in-rm.so mplayerplug-in 3.25 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled audio/x-pn-realaudio RealAudio ram,rm Yes application/vnd.rn-realmedia RealMedia rm Yes application/vnd.rn-realaudio RealAudio ra,ram Yes video/vnd.rn-realvideo RealVideo rv Yes audio/x-realaudio RealAudio ra Yes application/smil SMIL smil Yes Windows Media Player Plugin File name: mplayerplug-in-wmp.so mplayerplug-in 3.25 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled application/asx Media Files * Yes video/x-ms-asf-plugin Media Files * Yes video/x-msvideo AVI avi,* Yes video/msvideo AVI avi,* Yes application/x-mplayer2 Media Files * Yes application/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-asf Media Files asf,asx,* Yes video/x-ms-wm Media Files wm,* Yes video/x-ms-wmv Microsoft WMV video wmv,* Yes audio/x-ms-wmv Windows Media wmv,* Yes video/x-ms-wmp Windows Media wmp,* Yes video/x-ms-wvx Windows Media wvx,* Yes audio/x-ms-wax Windows Media wax,* Yes audio/x-ms-wma Windows Media wma,* Yes application/x-drm-v2 Windows Media asx,* Yes audio/wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes audio/x-wav Microsoft wave file wav,* Yes mplayerplug-in 3.25 File name: mplayerplug-in.so mplayerplug-in 3.25 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer JavaScript Enabled and Using GTK2 Widgets MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled video/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes video/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes video/x-mpeg2 MPEG2 mpv2,mp2ve Yes audio/mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/x-mpeg MPEG mpg,mpeg Yes audio/mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes audio/x-mpeg2 MPEG audio mp2 Yes video/mp4 MPEG 4 Video mp4 Yes audio/mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes audio/x-mpeg3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes audio/x-mpegurl MPEG url m3u Yes audio/mp3 MPEG audio mp3 Yes application/x-ogg Ogg Vorbis Media ogg Yes audio/ogg Ogg Vorbis Audio ogg Yes application/ogg Ogg Vorbis / Ogg Theora ogg Yes video/fli FLI animation fli,flc Yes video/x-fli FLI animation fli,flc Yes video/vnd.vivo VivoActive viv,vivo Yes application/x-nsv-vp3-mp3 Nullsoft Streaming Video nsv Yes video/divx DivX Media Format divx Yes video/vnd.divx DivX Media Format divx Yes audio/basic Basic Audio File au,snd Yes audio/x-basic Basic Audio File au,snd Yes Now for the news. Id don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but I've just tried in Opera and IT WORKS!!! Well, nearly, there's no sound. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Staying with firefox for now I notice that mplayer plugin is set to play realplayer files. To set this start your BBC player and when it loads mplayer instaed of realplayer right click in the video window and select configure from the pop up menu. In the list of selections you will find one that says something like play real player files. Un-select it and quit the configuration. Quit the video player and re-open it and you should be OK. As for the no sound in opera I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 OK, did that but nothing's changed. Now when I try to do the same thing the menu doesn't come back up. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 I've just found a partial solution It's simple really. When the BBC menu comes up, I click Launch in stand alone player then save to disk. A link is then placed on the desktop. When I double click this I can choose which programme I want to open it with (as you may remember, I can't do that in the window that appears when I click on Launch in stand alone player as I can only choose mplayer here). Then I choose Realplayer and tick Remember application association for this type of file . Then, all I need to do is double click the link on the desktop and it starts. I think this shows that the problem is more likely to be with Firefox than with Realplayer (and I have already seen that it works with Opera). I think that it is as I said earlier - correct me if you think I'm wide off the mark - Firefox cannot find Realplayer and so doesn't include it on the list of programmes that are capable of reading the link. It then tries to use what it can find, which is mplayer, and fails because mplayer doesn't have the real codecs. But if this is the case, why me? We can hardly say it's something I've done as I have a spankling new system freshly installed. I wonder if it would have worked better if I had started off doing it with Firefox 1.5 before downloading Firefox 2.0? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Well I'm glad you got this far Jim, you can watch the news that way. The only other possible solution I can think of is the BBC window that comes up. In the top right corner is preferences. Did you change this at all because it defaults to windows media, you can change it to realplayer, but as I said way back I still have to open the video in a stand alone window to watch so I'm thinking the way you are doing it is probably the best. I have used the link that Greg2 suggested to watch and that plays fine it's just the BBC one that plays up. Anyway I think we can say for now sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Not So :unsure: fast! We're not there yet! I can't see Greg's link, either in Firefox or Opera. But I have found this BBC It seems that I'm not alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 We have done quite a lot of what is suggested there, but good to know they are listening. Is it radio you want? I thought it was video that was the problem because we have a workaround in what you are doing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yesssssssssssssss! Now we're there!!!!!!! Yipppeeeeeeee! With Opera at least! I simply copied the two nphelix files into the Opera plugins directory and it all works perfectly! That suits me, Silversurfer, we've solved that one! I'd never have managed without you! Now, if you've got enough energy, I have a couple more little problems...But I'll wait till tomorrow! Best go to bed on a victory! I'll post a new thread in the morning! :D :P Thanks once again Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Glad we got that sorted for you. I can sleep easy for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yeap, but there does remain a little problem. I can't see Greg's link. Still, my primary goal is achieved now. I'll worry about that another time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Try this one http://beelinetv.com/ , it's all foreign to me but there is a few channels to choose from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtim Posted March 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 This is the link that I tried last night. In fact, it does work! Last night I clicked on the Albanian television link, the one that works on Greg's system, and concluded that because it didn't work, there was still a problem somewhere. This morning I tried again, and some of the channels do work. In Firefox I have to save target onto my desktop so that I can choose the programme, but Opera usually allows me to choose the programme I want without doing this. Incidently, the messages I get on the links that don't work might be revealing: With Firefox I get: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (rtsp) isn't assoicated with any program. With Opera I get (and it is the same links): The address is unknow or unsupported. By the way, it might be interesting for you to know that when you want to watch a BBC clip, in Opera it is possible to do this within the BBC player: it isn't necessary to launch it in the stand alone player. It really does seem to me that Opera is a lot easier and more efficient at media treatment than the new version of Firefox. It looks pretty well then that we have solved my problem. Now I have a couple more problems to resolve, and then my migration to Linux will be complete! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSurfer60 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 With Firefox I get: Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (rtsp) isn't assoicated with any program. The answer to that one is here https://mandrivausers.org/index.php?s=&...st&p=304060, courtesy of Greg2 With Opera I get (and it is the same links):The address is unknow or unsupported. The answer to that is even easier in Opera:- Select from the tools menu, preferences -> advanced -> programs. Add, enter the protocol rtsp and the program to associate realplay By the way, it might be interesting for you to know that when you want to watch a BBC clip, in Opera it is possible to do this within the BBC player: it isn't necessary to launch it in the stand alone player. It really does seem to me that Opera is a lot easier and more efficient at media treatment than the new version of Firefox. I agree with that but then again I think the BBC site must hold some responsibility for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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