unruled Posted December 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 update: I tried to restart the service from the command line; it said stuff like shutdown ..... OK shutdown ..... OK disable.... OK setting network parameters..... OK bringing up loopback interface......OK bringing up interface eth0....... (LONG pause, once again, 15+seconds) and then FAILED. I did find the firewall settings though, and actually, the firewall wasn't even installed, so I installed it and made sure to allow everything I need. Im still stuck without internet, and dualbooting is getting so annoying just to be able to use the net.... maybe I can restore all original settings and start over? or any other advice? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 or any other advice? :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: do you have a live-cd like knoppix at hand? you could try if this is only a mandrake-related problem, but i guess that it is not. but i must admit, i have no clue why your box refuses to start your eth0 or ping anything. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 yeah, my internet works fine in knoppix (3.6) BTW, it used to be able to ping stuff, well, I mean, it used to be able to at least TRY to ping things, even though it didnt get responses...but now it just wont let it do it at all.. so i figure somewhere Ive screwed up some setting and made it even worse... can i restore all settings to default or somtn like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 can you boot knoppix with networking and then post back here the /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/netowrk/options pls then we will compare :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 (edited) where would I find those dir's? I assume in the ramdrive that knoppix makes? (dunno if Il have time to check, I got my last economics and biology exam tomorow...) EDIT: I did the following today, first, since with my settings as DHCP i couldn't even get the network service started (if I tried to ping anyhting it said 'network service unavailable') so I tried LAN-> static IP. I then gave the Ip I get from my router in windows and the netmask thing....after that I can ping myself, and if I try to ping other machines, or the router itself, it doesnt work...but I CAN ping myself....so thats something :) Anyway; I went to knoppix and did what u said, in the /etc/network/interfaces there was this: #etc/network/interfaces --configuration file for ifup(8);ifdown (8) #the loopback interface #automatically ... when upgrading auto lo interface lo internet loopback or something like that (It might be tiny bits different, I dont remember exactly) and in the /etc/network/options ip_found=no spoofprotect=yes syncookies=no :unsure: anyone still here? :unsure: Edited December 18, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 guess that means the end of mandrake then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 only quickly skimmed the thread - does the modem work directly with your mdk box - i.e without using the router. Maybe the modem needs to be configured - a wildcard, but if ts not been tried, maybe worth having a check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 (edited) thanks for the reply. I can't check without the router because there is quite a big distance between the two hehe hey guys, so is this the end? Am I just gonna have to get rid of mandrake? Or what? Edited December 20, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 so thats it? Im just out of luck? [Qchem Edit: No need for bad language ;)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 so thats it? Im just out of luck? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> could be... if i were you, i would switch to a distro that works on your box. if you need some help with your new distro, you can still ask your questions in here. not all are mandrake-users. ;) i am sorry for you but sometimes even this forum cannot give a satisfying answer to some questions (it is rare but it happens...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 sorry bout the language =x I understand, it can happen. The only thing with mandrake was that it was really easy to install (virtually just as easy as windows, xept for the partitioning is tricky because of dualboot). I heard knoppix was based off debian, but Im afraid I would mess up my dual boot on this computer. :( Im a bit unsure of which distro to check next.. being a Major noob and all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 If you can go into knoppix and post EXACTLY (using cut and paste)... If i am going to help i need to know exactly what is in the files in knoppix that works . I am trying to find out how it finds the IP address and also any options given to it... it is very important to make usre its EXACT... especially there should be a line eth 0 inet **** or not... if this is absent then how did you connect tot he internet in knoppix... if you are not sure you did and it *appeared* to be working then say so else we are chasing ghosts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) If you can go into knoppix and post EXACTLY (using cut and paste)...If i am going to help i need to know exactly what is in the files in knoppix that works . I am trying to find out how it finds the IP address and also any options given to it... it is very important to make usre its EXACT... especially there should be a line eth 0 inet **** or not... if this is absent then how did you connect tot he internet in knoppix... if you are not sure you did and it *appeared* to be working then say so else we are chasing ghosts... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> u mean the exact content of those files? Il boot up in knoppix in a half hour or so and do that then edit: make that 5 mins. okay, Im here in knoppix 3.6 now (Btw, I just noted that during the knoppix bootup sequence it said "Eth0 detected, DHCP broadcast started" ) Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Good Im waiting... once its up use the midle mouse button to cut paste into konqueror ... you can just open a terminal and type stuff then echo it back and wel can note it and try and get MDK doing the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Im doing this from memory use use the command completion <TAB> in case I get the filenames slightly wrong... first open a xterm or similar and su to root You didn't need to do anything else? (No card detection detection in the knoppix menu?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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