unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) Edit: No, knoppix did it all for me, I didnt have to choose anything; I just let it boot up and then it was all working fine I didnt use the command tool but browsed to the folder, is that okay aswell? here is what I got for teh first one: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface # automatically added when upgrading auto lo iface lo inet loopback and teh second one: ip_forward=no spoofprotect=yes syncookies=no There are also some other folders in that directory and some files (ifstate and ifstate.hotplug and some directories: if-down.d ; if-post-down.d ; if-pre-up.d ; if-up.d ) Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 well lets try this to work out how its configured (the terminal woill give ou lots more info so open a shell of some kind and su root) ifconfig eth0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) okay, I did that :) root@ttyp0[knoppix]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:DC:10:81:A1 inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5786 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5635 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:6523849 (6.2 MiB) TX bytes:972885 (950.0 KiB) Interrupt:21 Base address:0x5000 Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 OK looks good, we will check the routing... which is easy... type route (paste results back) we should check the router out... in konqueror you should be able to type http://192.168.0.1 this should take you to your router config :D then we will find where the DCHP is set up... cd /etc/networking (or similar should be 3 dirs) now grep DHCP * (do this in any /etc/net* directory :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) Here is the route thing: root@ttyp0[knoppix]# route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 and yes, 192.168.0.1 takes me to my router configuration "page" then I went using the console to etc/network (that was the only net* directory) but when I type "grep DHCP" it skips down a line but doesn't spit out any text or information (and any commands I try to enter after that are not executed) (btw thanks a lot so far :) ) Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 well it must be set somewhere but I don't have a knoppix to test... I just wanna make certain before we try and do it in Mandrake... now we know we can get to the rounter and we can if need be set the IP manually and add the default route... Id be more comfy doing this if i could see where... just to be 100% certain... In knoppix you should have a utility called netcardconfig I think we can try with this to run the DHCP config again and see if it then makes the correct files... since it does some magic config when booting up that is not really standard :D try netcardconfig and make sure it still works .... choose DHCP and eth0 .. then make usre everything still works.... ONLY if it doesn't....then this should dig you out of it... (a reboot on the Cd obviously will) ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.4 ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 route add default gw 192.168.0.1 (all as root) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) Okay, I ran the "netcardconfig" and chose DHCP, and my internet still works... hehe, magic network booting :D Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 OK now repeat the grep DHCP * (in the /etc/network directory) confirm your IP is still the same (ifconfig eth0) then we are ready to go back to mandrake.... then it becomes harder until we have internet back so I will need to give quite a few instructions :D you will have to do em exactly ... we will get rid of the dhcp completely then reinstall it..with the dhcp-client from the Mandrake control Centre (MCC) first remove software and search for dhcp..remove them all ... then add software and make sure you choose dhcp-client (not tmdns etc) ... then you need to go to the network connections and choose LAN... (Not DSL... ) this is a very annoying 'undocumented feature' in Mandrake and causes lots of problems... if you choose DSL then it can be a pain in the backside to get rid of it... I think the firewall in 10.1 is still shorewall so the best thing to do is make sure its completely switched off.... shorewall stop (as root) Hopefully this should then be OK... as root again /etc/init.d/network restart restarts it but its better to use ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 as you get more informaiton on the DHCP.... if it works and you have an IP then good if not then try the CODE earlier ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.4 route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) the "grep DHCP" still didn't do anything... :( the IP address of my computer is still 192.168.0.4 according to the ifconfig eth0 (which makes sense because thats what I have in windows aswell) Okay, Im gonna try and see if I can print all that out in knoppix now EDIT: when choosing LAN as connection, should I just take "DHCP" again? Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Yep ... if it fails we will try manually but give it a go its much simpler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) okay, (Im now just on my moms computer cuz its way annoying to reboot everytime...) anyway, after I tried all the things u mentioned, it still didn't work. So I tried the ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.4 route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 after I did that in the tray an icon said the network was connected and if I typed 'route' it would list some things...but my internet still doesn't work... :( Also, when u told me to do: ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 it said: determining IP info eth0......."failed" (with a long pause inbetween) Another thing, when shutting down the 'shorewall'thing, it said: WARNING: Disable_IPV6=yes in shorewall.conf but this system does not appear to have ip6 tables. BTW: After I chose Lan - DHCP in the add connection wizard, it said "assign DHCP host name?"and I left the button selected (ticked) but I left the field blank... also in the next window it asks to make a hostname and I left it blank... and I didnt fill in a "zeroconf hostname"either.... is that okay? because I relly wouldnt know what to fill in BTW: I can now ping myself but not any other machines (it says host unreachable) Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 OK, I figure either DHCP isn't set up OR There is a config option for your network card that is interfering! essentially it should work if it worked in knoppix... the only problem is once you have run the wizards ..if they don't work they are reeally hard to clean up and if you don'thave an internet connection that makes it doubly hard! what I wanna check is if your DNS resolution might not be working that is if it can connect by IP number but not by domain name acording to netcraft 216.239.37.99 is an IP for google.... first we do ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.4 and ifconfig eth0 up now we route add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth0 now we check route it should show just a gateway via the router.... now we test the connection to outside.... can your try ping 216.239.37.99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) okay, I did all of that. When I tried: route add default gw 192,168.9.1 eth0 it said "file exists"; I assume because we already did that before. Then when I did route I got: Destination Gateway Genmask 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 (I just manually typed that here lol. There are also some things listed like "flag"but I dontknow if that is important) When I tried to ping that IP address I get the same error as when I try to ping the router or other computers on my home network .... host unreachable (something like that.) Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 your making a syntax error somewhere.... this is why its such a pain when you don't have internet access.... route add default gw 192,168.9.1 eth0 could be you typed it back badly but there are 2 typos... (the comma and that is 0 not 1 i.e. 192.168.0.1) what does an ifconfig eth0 say now? if it says its down or fdoesn't give an IP address then ifconfig eth0 up then ifconfig again! it should be reporting an IP that you specified.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unruled Posted December 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) sorry, I made a typo when I wrote it here, (Im not used to this keyboard) anyway, Il run over to the other pc a sec and try it again anyway. gimme 1 min edit: okay, here is what it says (completely) [root@localhost unruled]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:ethernet HWaddr 00:10:DC:10:81:A1 inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 Inet6 addr: fe80::210:dcff:fe10:81a1/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes: 0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:18 Base address 0x2000 that was annoying to type out... Edited December 22, 2004 by unruled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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