hbob Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 I have a HP i-8210 cd-rw and a Toshiba DVD rom and with Mandrake 9.2 can not use them (at all). I installed the system from the DVD-rom I checked to see what my bio's said and both are seen and also in windows xp both are seen. Running dual doot Mandrake 9.2 sees the drives as scd1 Hp cd-rw bus: scsi location on bus: 0:0:0 drive capacity: Burner channel: 00 new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd old device file: /dev/scdi floppy format: IDE-CD R/RW 4x4x24 media class: CDrom scd0 Toshiba DVD-rom bus: scsi location on bus: 0:0:0 drive capacity DVD channel 00 new devfs device /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd old device file /dev/scd0 floppy format TOSHIBA DVD-rom sd-m1612 media type cdrom Had Mandrake installed on older pc with creative cd rom with no problems. Installed on Newer pc and can't add packages or update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 What exactly is the problem? Put a CD in and: Look in /mnt/cdrom0 and /mnt/cdrom1 Could you also post your /etc/fstab Please give us as much information as you can, ANY error message could be usefull Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoopy Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Seems your drives are configured correctly (but post your fstab so we can double check) so I would guess to look elsewhere for the problem. IF you open up "Software Media Manager" ( Kmenu --> Configuration --> Packaging ) are your CD's listed and enabled there? If no sources, you won't be able to update or have anything to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 iphitus I copied the fstab it reads as: /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hdb8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,sync,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /mnt/win_c2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda5 /mnt/win_d vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /mnt/win_d2 vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Also checked media manager and it lists: installation cd1(x86)(cdrom1) installation cd2(x86)(cdrom2) When I try to install packages it wants the: installation cd1(x86)(cdrom2) in folder /dev/hdc1 there is no /dev/hdc1 so the installation fails. both cdrom are listed as /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom1 and I can go to /mnt/cdrom0 and see the contents on the DVD and the same for /mnt/cdrom1 I see the contents of the HP cd/rw. Could it be jumpers on the DVD and the HP ? both are listed as scsi drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris z Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 i think it's because you installed via DVD, but the default for the cd sources is cdrom. check out This Thread & look for my reply for a solution. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Chris Not sure if I have the same problem. as this thread, he was trying to install the system from a DVD disk. I have my images burned onto cd but I am using a DVD which shows up as /mnt/cdrom1 It's during the update/package install stage it looks at cd1 at cdrom2 in file /dev/hdc1 here in is where the problem lies, My DVD didn't creat a hdc1 file in /dev/ both /dev/cdrom's are listed /dev/cdrom/cdrom0 and /dev/cdrom/cdrom1 and I can /mnt/cdrom and /mnt/cdrom2 Now if I could creat a file called /dev/hdc1 and mirror/link /mnt/cdrom1 into it, for install and updating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 did try some of the suggestions per the thread. and disabled updates completely lucky I copied and saved the info was able to recover but back to the begining. Any other thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Not sure why it's looking for /dev/hdc1, according to your fstab /dev/hdc is your /mnt/cdrom (DVD Drive, I assume). Are these the cd's you installed from? Can you post the info that's in you Software Sources Manager? I'm looking for the entries for your cd's, if they're there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 (edited) Hold up. is your; dvd the primary slave (hdc) cdrw the secondary slave (hdd) ? I ask because according to your first post it is; scd0 Toshiba DVD-rom scd1 Hp cd-rw now look at your fstab.....specifically scd0....it's /mnt/cdrom2....your dvd. The actual cdrw isn't necessarily the first scsi device. I also have the same setup and my dvd=hdc but is scd0 where in the past scd0 was always my cdrw. This has all changed with the new 2.6 kernel with scsi emulation for regular cdroms, in my case a dvd/cdrom. In your case I don't know because you're not using kernel-2.6....are you? The primary slave (cdanything) is always going to be scd0 and the secondary slave scd1 when concerning scsi emulation. Is your dvdrom a dvdburner? If not it could be detected wrong by the kernel. If I'm rt, I would change you fstab to; none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 reboot and see if all is well. If it still wants hdc1 create it. in a terminal do [root@localhost root]# file /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: symbolic link to `ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd' [root@localhost root]# so for example, if you had the same output I do then you'd do (all this as root) ln -s /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd /dev/hdc1 reboot and see if hdc1 is still there. If it is change your fstab to hdc1 instead of hdc. Now, the M$ part :lol: ......are you running harddrake? MCC>System>DrakXServices or chkconfig --list will tell ya. If you are when you reboot it is going to detect that a device was remove and another added. Do you want this? Do you know what to tell it, becasue it doesn't config it auto.....you must tell it what to do. If not, before you make any changes to fstab, disable harddrake so that you can manually do this. It could be that harddrake is a good thing for you. Personally I use to uninstall it and even now it's one of the first things I disable. Hope I haven't confused you even more....sure did myself :P If anyone is seeing the same, and can explain it better.....go for it! Edited March 30, 2004 by bvc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 I took another look at the hardware list and the cd/rw is listed as: a CD/DVD burner=scd1 bus: scsi location on the bus: 0:0:0 channel: 00 new devfs device: /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd Old device file: /dev/scd1 Floppy format: IDE-CD R/RW 4x4x24 Media class: cdrom The DVD=scd0 Bus: SCSI Location on the bus: 0:0:0 Drive capacity: DVD Channel: 00 New devfs device: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd Old device file: /dev/scd0 Floppy format: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612 Media class: cdrom and when I /mnt/cdrom2 I see my DVD when I /mnt/cdrom I see my cd/rw This is confusing for me because the cd/rw is not DVD And the DVD is only a reader, not a writer. And you are right in pointing out that the fstab file does not jive none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 this is the device Mandrake see as a CD/DVD none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 this is the device Mandrake see as my DVD Now the truth is I tried to reinstall from the CD/RW but I recieved a /sbin/ something I should have paid more attention, any how the reinstalled failed , the end of the message read just restart the system to boot normal. in /dev/ I have cdroms=cdrom0 and cdrom1, not sure what device these would be. I have disks=disk0 and disk1 I have scsi=host0 and host1 these are the DVD and the cd/rw as what I read. I have ide=hd and host0 below the files I have hda, hda1, hda2 and hda5 hdb, hdb1,hdb2,hdb5,hdb6,hdb7 and hdb8 they look like shortcuts to something . As far as turning off harddrake how and where, and would that resolve my problems and allow me to update and install packages ? And if I were to change fstab to read none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 would that cause a crash as the system see's the CD/DVD as scd1 and in /dev/ scd0 and scd1 do exist as what looks like shortcuts to something you perhaps know. that's all I can think of any more questions ask away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 Just one side hint: if you can manage to use your cdroms to read the discs, and you have enough space, you may just want to put the whole lot on your hd and install from there - see my website, config page for explanations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 (edited) well like you said, your dvd is not a writer so it has no business being an scdX. It needs to be hdc. Currently your fstab has 2 lines pointing to the same device. Explains why neither work. none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc (dvd) none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0 (dvd) are both your dvd. Changing none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd0 to none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1 gives you none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc (dvd) none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1 (cdrw) you will not harm anything....they'll either work or will not. Also take fs=udf:iso9660 out of there to have none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 turn off harddrake from a terminal as root with; chkconfig harddrake off or uncheck harddrake in MCC>System>DrakXServices Like I said, I don't know if it'll help or hurt, I just know I don't use it because it has made things more trouble to fix. Edited March 30, 2004 by bvc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 BVC Question How do I edit fstab, I am new and this is a area not covered. aRTee Tried not sure if I was doing that right, but I tried and I recieved a message that was not allowed. It showed downloading some 500 + mb of files before that message. what I did was cp /mnt/cdrom2/Mandrake /dev/hdc1/Mandrake a file I had created, I thought it was looking for the file there so give it what it wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 (edited) I use vi (in X or console) nano (in X or console- just started using this actually. It's nice and friendly) gvim (in X -gnome) gedit (in X -gnome) kate (in X -kde) Open>edit>save ....am I not understanding the question? You'll need to install nano so that's probably out of the question rt now. So if you're using vi from console and need help, just ask. Otherwise, use an editor in X. Open>edit>save none /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount dev=/dev/scd1,fs=udf:iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 that's what I would try. Then reboot and post back. ============================================= Are you broadband? Wanna download it? wget -cr top_of_url you can limit how many folders it recurses with --level=2 so if I wanted cooker on my hd and there were 5 folders wget could recurse into to download but I only wanted 2, I'd open a terminal; cd /share/dload/cooker wget -cr --level=2 ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux...6/Mandrake/RPMS gotta love it! -c, --continue resume getting a partially-downloaded file. -r, --recursive recursive download. -l, --level=NUMBER maximum recursion depth (inf or 0 for infinite). Edited March 31, 2004 by bvc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbob Posted March 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 Because I'm use to kde somewhat, I used kate. Made the edit tried to save (not enough disk space or do not have permission) I don't believe disk space is the problem. May have to do this as su is there a way for that to happen ? As far as downloading I do have hi speed with a cap of 150 mb per 4 hrs I use filzilla in windows, so I can pause and resume. But in order to install any packages, Mandrake would more then likly need to look at disk1. A normal update failed because the system could not see disk1. And I updated (or tried to ) from: ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/unix/linux...6/Mandrake/RPMS I lost you as far as to what I was downloading if it's Mandrake 10. cooker I have it, and tried to update to it, not sure how that went. ( recieved a warning during the update, that there was a problem, it finished the prosses I guess, never checked to see if I had 2.6 kernel or not. Could not update or install packages, I have sense did a format and reinstall of 9.2 and stayed here till I work through this problem, this was about two weeks ago. Up until then I had been running on a old 600 mhz. p-3 and doing quit well, this other computer has to many expensive toys on it. ATI all in wonder 8500DV (have not tried to config.) Creative audigy gamer (have not tried to config.) no sound either, watching the threads on these. Both of these still need to be config. for Mandrake but that's another day down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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