mousematt

Congratulations DarkElve. I am pretty confident you will be a great moderator. Congratulations!!!

Mandrake or pretty much any Linux distro can run on that sort of hardware. I happilly run a working Debian install on my lowly 366Mhz iBook. Suggestions: - use IceWM or XFCE4 with Rox as the file manager. - reduce the colour depth to 16bit rather than 24bit - use abiword/gnumeric instead of openoffice - opera is the fastest browser imaginable on slower hardware (they embed it in cell phones) - use xmms instead of a sophisticated audio player like rhythmbox, juk or amarok: all of these have a big backend (gstreamer etc) - disable all non-essential services (eg. postfix, cron, isdn etc) - make sure you have a disk swapfile

Grab your magnifying glass. Here is my first artistic contribution to this project. Please, download and put it on your website... it'll happilly keep those little firefox buttons company. More, larger and shiny-er projects are coming. Issue #5 will be posted on Wednesday or Thursday... Only three more sleeps :-)

A number of people have asked about the terms and conditions of this project. In particular those relating to licensing and the redistribution of material. Here it is: All material will be freely redistributable. From the 5 page getting started guide that I would like to see sent with every CheapBytes Mandrakelinux CD to the buttons, wallpapers and emoticons that contributors are willing to dream up. I personally plan to contribute web buttons showing that I am a registered member of Mandrakeclub, Mandrakeclub.nl and MUSB. This project is about Mandrakelinux Community - not just the software. I will publish a more detailed outline of this project in the coming days... however, I really wanted to get the threads going first... the plan is to create a number of repositories where users can download the material for redistrbution. All authors will get their names on the download page, their actual artwork and anything else they contribute. This isnt a MandrakeMag or Doors Project (my company) thing... it is a community thing... I hope this clears that up once and for all

As I understand it - the drak tools are free software and can be modified, rebuilt and redistributed. Mandrake holds a trademark on Drak* tools but they still appear to be GPL. And KDE for *NIX is GPL... the Qt toolkit is GPL for no commercial use under Linux. I understand you are a GNOME zealot bvc - and I'm fine with that. *puts KDE zealot hat on* Here is a list of myths about KDE - http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/ - it also clears up the licensing stuff... This list of myths officially comes from the KDE Project. I'll summarize: since Qt2 was released the Qt toolkit which is the basis of KDE has been dual licensed - just like Mozilla and OpenOffice. It is licensed under the QPL and the GPL. Both are considered Free Software licenses. Although KDE licensing prohibits its use in commercial software without a commercial license from Trolltech, Open Source software such as KDE is 100% free under both the QPL and GPL. Don't believe me, check the links above. However, this is really I will be posting the first of my web buttons on this board for comment tomorrow... Let's Market Mandrakelinux

10.1CE is a lot more stable than 10.0CE was. I am still note sure if I am going to trust it with my essential data... I will undoubtedly wait for official. But I really like the improvements to MCC and the general cleanup of the menus. It still needs some work, but I am trying my hardest on that one :-)

Mandrakelinux is not just a computer operating system. It is a worldwide community of enthusiasts, users and developers. Mandrakelinux can be used almost anywhere: at home, at work, school; on notebooks, desktop PCs and servers. The distribution is pure Open Source, freely available and among the most popular and most powerful GNU/Linux distributions on Earth. Sadly, most of the online world does not know about Mandrakelinux or its global community. MandrakeMag challenges you to build a better distribution by taking part in the Mandrakelinux Community Marketing Initiative. We are counting on users like you, to share your skills, demonstrate your talents and help bridge the awareness gap between the Mandrakelinux community and the world beyond! the goal By harnessing its artistic and creative talents, the Mandrakelinux community can create a large number of simple and effective marketing resources for Mandrakelinux users, developers, advocates and distributors. what could we create? For example, I personally would like to help create the following common resources: * message and forum signature templates promoting our favourite distribution and its communities. * emoticons and buttons for your blog/website promoting Mandrakelinux and its communities. * wallpapers, desktop artwork and printable posters. * CD cover templates for home-made install CDs. * a basic 3 page getting-started guide for new users. * downloadable brochures promoting Mandrakelinux. what are the rules? * All materials must relate to Mandrakelinux and its user and developer communities specifically. * All materials submitted need to be original works submitted by the original author. * All materials contributed will be released under a Creative Commons License. There are a number of license options available. The preferred license variant is detailed here. * Any graphical material that displays the Mandrakelinux or Mandrakelinux "star logo" will need to comply with Mandrakesoft's Guidelines on trademark and logo usage. Please follow this hyperlink to download the Mandrakesoft Guidelines in PDF format. * Material will only be accepted in the following file formats: PNG, JPG, GIF, SVG, PDF, SXW and plain text. how do we get started? If you already have some relevant artwork or paperwork you would like share, please contribute it. As part of this project, discussion threads have been seeded on a number of Mandrake related discussion groups. Please participate, share your ideas and your efforts. Volunteer to help co-ordinate, publicise or document this project. If you'd like to help out, please contact me. Also, if you have some server space or bandwidth you'd like to donate, I'd be very happy to hear from you... Take the Initiative! More information here.

This thread isn't pure mental gynastics. It is part of a genuine and in-depth analysis of the Mandrakelinux desktop product. A report is cming - and going Mandrake's way - Stay tuned. This is just the beginning.

KDE 3.3 is included on the fourth disc of the club members only version of Mandrake Community.

bvc was that self-description or a request for your next birthday? :P Seriosuly, I like GNOME - I use it on my ubuntu iBook. Although, this thread is about Mandrake's default desktop - which is KDE :-) Of course, you know that and are just being a playful GTK zealot... Thanks for the comment... we now return you to your regular flamewar.... KDE!!! KDE!!!

This thread has been referred to in the latest issue of MandrakeMag. I have published this issue on this message board. It can be found here.

THIS IS MANDRAKEMAG: A FREE MANDRAKELINUX E-ZINE Issue #4 - Day, 24 September 2004 - http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au IN THIS ISSUE - opening monologue - advice on mandrakelinux 10.1 community edition - introduction to the default desktop discussion - mandrakebizcases reminder - four essential small business applications - an interview with the kumula development team - four URLs and four rules to reduce hardware hassles - mandrake related news headlines - CHALLENGE! the mandrakelinux community marketing initiative - the naming of files (Christopher FA JOHNSON) - some advantages of DHCP for small business (Harry PHILLIPS) - an introduction to mandrakeclub.nl (Gerard) - mialug audio newsletter - help wanted! - in the next issue MANDRAKEMAG IS NOT SPAM. If you wish to cancel your subscription then send an email to mandrakemag@webace.com.au with UNSUBSCRIBE in the message subject line. This issue will published online at http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au on Tuesday, 28 September 2004. ======================================================= MOUSEMATT'S OPENING MONOLOGUE This is a bumper issue of MandrakeMag. I have spent weeks compiling and editing this issue... my original articles list was three times as long. This is the biggest issue of MandrakeMag yet! More than 5530 words. Before I go to far, I'd like to acknowledge the support and the offers of assistance I received following the demise of my hard disk drive prior to the release of the past issue. I thankyou for your generous offer and have recommend your services to others. If anyone would like some more information please email me. This issue is the last issue to be sent from a webace.com.au account. I have finally bitten the bullet and registered a domain. The next issue of this e-zine will be sent from mandrakemag AT doorsproject.net. I'm letting you know now so that you can adjust your spam filters accordingly. This is the first small business edition of MandrakeMag. It explores hardware and software choices for Mandrakelinux business users; interviews a senior developer of the Kumula Suite, a rising star of the KDE business desktop; some of the latest news and reviews from Mandrakesoft; plus all of the usual tutorials, hyperlinks nad high quality submissions from Harry Phillips and Chris FA Johnson. This issue also discusses the Great Default Desktop Discussion and launches a new community marketing project for Mandrakelinux users. Well worth the read. Welcome to the fourth issue of MandrakeMag! Matthew PROUSE, MandrakeMag Editor <matthew AT doorsproject.net> ======================================================= ADVICE ON MANDRAKELINUX 10.1 COMMUNITY EDITION A four disc version of Mandrake 10.1 "Community Edition" has officially been released to all MandrakeClub members. A number of Linux CD vendors are now selling copies of Mandrake 10.1 Community online before it has been released to the general public by Mandrakesoft. The public release of 10.1 Community is expected in approximately two weeks time. Should you upgrade your 10.0 install to 10.1 Community Edition? Let's be honest, the Community Edition is pre-release software. It is the final release candidate of Mandrakelinux 10.1. Savvy and loyal Mandrakelinux fans are supposed to download it; install it on their PCs; play, tweak and fiddle with it to their hearts content; and write bug reports so that the "Official" box set version of 10.1 (Official) is relatively bug free and thoroughly tested. Unless you are a developer, debugger or digital stunt pilot, I strongly recommend users stick with 10.0 Official and wait for Mandrakesoft to finish Mandrakelinux 10.1. Given its pre-release status I would not trust my mission critical file and web servers; honors and masters projects or MP3/OGG collections to a software release that is not yet "Official". By all means, play with Mandrakelinux 10.1 Community: it needs your bug reports. However, heed my warning, if you depend on a truly stable environment, save yourself the tears and stick with Mandrakelinux 9.2 or 10.0 Official for a while longer. 10.0 Official is an incredibly stable piece of software... if you only wait a little while, Mandrakelinux 10.1 will be too! If you decide to install 10.1 Community Edition, aRTee's installation guide may be useful. Surf to http://www.mandrake.tips.4.free.fr/install101.html ======================================================= AN INTRODUCTION TO THE MANDRAKELINUX DEFAULT DESKTOP DISCUSSION In mid August, Mandrakesoft commisioned an ergonomics survey investigating the design and usability of the Mandrakelinux distribution. The poll is still open and can be accessed at http://poll.mandrakesoft.com/Ergonomics/ MandrakeMag decided to launch its own investigation into the design and functionality of the Mandrakelinux default desktop. A message was posted in the Workbench section of the MandrakeUsers Board (http://www.mandrakeusers.org) and members of the Mandrakelinux community eagerly contributed opinions, ideas and new ways for Mandrakesoft to improve the default desktop experience. The thread generated 165 posts in 14 days. Many posts were extremely detailed with well thought arguments, detailed explanations and incredibly effective alternative designs. I now have the daunting task of summarizing the thread and producing a report which I will present to the same Interface team that commissioned Mandrakesoft's own ergonomics poll. When complet, the report will also be published in PDF form on the MandrakeMag website. If you are interested in the discussion or would like to help me with the report please surf to http://mandrakeusers.org/index.php?showtopic=17787 and have a read. I'd like to salute the creativity of three Mandrakelinux users in particular. Thankyou arctic, DarkElve and Adrianovaroli for your support, enthusiasm and input. You have some incredible ideas and I sincerely hope that Mandrakesoft takes notice and includes some of them in future releases. ======================================================= FOUR ESSENTIAL DESKTOP APPLICATIONS FOR SMALL BUSINESS #1: OpenOffice.org 1.1.x (http://www.openoffice.org/) OpenOffice needs minimal introduction. It is a powerful, multi-platform, open-source alternative to the Microsoft Office suit (Word, Powerpoint and Excel). OpenOffice.org aims to compete with Microsoft Office and emulate the MS Office look and feel where suitable. It is also able to import from and export to almost all Microsoft Office file formats. The ability to read and write Microsoft file formats is the most important feature of OOo for many users. OpenOffice 1.1.0 is included in a default install of Mandrakelinux 9.2 and 10.0. RPMS for the latest version (1.1.2) are available from MandrakeClub. OpenOffice comes with a number of useful templates and wizards that can be effectively used in a small business environment. Unfortunately, they are well hidden inside the OpenOffice menu system. Wizards for memos, reports, letters, business cards and faxes can be discovered in the File menu. Templates generally lurk in the "File > New" menu. The more extensive wizards are available under "File > Autopilot". For more document templates surf to http://ooextras.sourceforge.net/ For OpenOffice support try the discussion forum at http://www.oooforum.org/ #2: Ximian Evolution / Kontact Personal Information Manager No business - and almost no person - can survive today without email. Ximian Evolution and Kontact are two highly integrated groupware applications. Both have email, addressbook, calendar and task list functions. Both applications can synchronise with PalmOS based mobile devices. Evolution is developed by Novell subsidiary Ximian and uses the GTK2 (GNOME) toolkit. Kontact is a KDE 3.2 application and uses the Qt toolkit. Using 10.0, Ximian Evolution is installed with a GNOME Desktop install. Kontact is installed instead when KDE is chosen. I personally use Kontact for my personal information - excluding MandrakeMag. I find it to be a fast and functional package. However, Evolution is a lot more mature, is able to talk to Microsoft Exchange mail servers and enjoys strong development support from companies like Novell, Red Hat and Sun Microsystems. I wouldn't be surprised if many corporations standardise on Evolution in the years to come. #3: GnuCash - Linux Accounting Software (http://www.gnucash.org) Sadly, there is no Linux version of the popular Quicken or MYOB financial management and accounting software. Despite its quirky and old fashioned user interface, GnuCash is a powerful finance and accounting tool. GnuCash is an open source, double-entry book-keeping based, personal finance system, similar to Intuit's Quicken application. Current versions of GnuCash concentrate on small business features and functionality. The latest version of GnuCash (1.8.9) is available for Mandrakelinux 10.0 users in the NORLUG urpmi repository. Adding this site to your URPMI source list was convered in the previous issue. If you need more info, the URL for Chipste r's Norlug URPMI repository is http://www.norlug.org/~chipster/ There is an extensive list of Linux compatible financial applications at this URL: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Office/Financial.html. This webpage has hyperlinks to small personal finance tools, larger and more sophisticated server based programs and a several free and non free point of sale applications. #4: CrossOver Office (http://www.codeweavers.com) Do you really need to run Microsoft Office on your Mandrakelinux computer? CrossOver Office is a commercial software program capable of running popular Windows applications without a Windows installation. It is a snapshot of the public WINE source tree (http://www.winehq.com), with various compatibility patches added, and more user-friendly configuration tools. The actively supported applications are Microsoft Office XP, 2000 and 97, Microsoft Outlook 2000, Microsoft Access 2000, Microsoft Visio 2000, Microsoft Internet Explorer 6, Macromedia Dreamweaver MX, Macromedia Flash MX, Adobe Photoshop, Lotus Notes and Quicken 2002. A number of other applications also work under CrossOver Office. Prices start from US $39.95 and include technical support and assistance from CodeWeavers. CrossOver Office can be purchased directly from the developers or from the Mandrakestore (http://store.mandrakesoft.com). This is a very short list of literally thousands of applications for Linux business users. An extensive list of Windows apps and their Linux equivalents is available online at http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml ====================================================== AN INTERVIEW WITH THE KUMULA SOFTWARE TEAM I consider Kumula Documents (http://www.kumula.org'>http://www.kumula.org) to be a rising star of the KDE business desktop. I was very happy to sit down with Juergen from the Kumula Development Team and ask him about this project and its future on the Linux business desktop. MANDRAKEMAG: Before I ask about Kumula, I'd like to learn about the Kumula Development Team. Who are you guys? How did you get involved in Open Source GNU/Linux Desktop Software? What are your roles in the Kumula Development Project? JUERGEN: Currently, the team consists of three members: Thomas, Stephan and myself. We are all software professionals working in Germany. Thomas and Stephan mainly do conceptual things, whilst I hack the code. Kumula is written in Qt, PyQt and Python using the fabulous Eric3 development environment. It fits perfectly to KDE. MANDRAKEMAG: What is Kumula? What kind of application is it? What is it designed to do? JUERGEN: Originally, it was designed for business consultants. This group generally has special software requirements. In general, consultants have to manage customers/clients, which mostly are companies. During development we saw the potential of modular software design, and now Kumula is designed for flexibility and should fit the needs for each business user in future. JUERGEN: Kumula is an integrated suite of software programs. "Clients" is the customer/client management program. It is extremely modular. The main application manages only client names and identities, the rest (like addresses and contact details) is managed by modules. Because of this modular design we expect "Clients" to become a flexible Customer Relationship Management solution. JUERGEN: Another important part is the "Documents" application. It should become a complete Document Management System, including central scanning functions and document flow management. Other applications fulfill the needs of people working in an office ("Letters"), or provide possibilities for special classes of business - like "Journal" in the case of accounting offices). MANDRAKEMAG: How many developers? How many people use the Kumula suite? JUERGEN: The Kumula team consists of three members: one programmer, one concept man and another doing a little of both. Additionally, other programmers have contributed to enhance the program suite. Joseph Rawson wants to improve the database layers and Romans plans to provide a web interface to the Kumula database. JUERGEN: It is hard to calculate the number of Kumula users. We count over 1000 downloads from KDE-Apps.org and about 600 downloads from our own website. MANDRAKEMAG: What are some of the key features of the current alpha release? Is this release somewhat stable? JUERGEN: The current release (2004.09) brings two new applications, "Letters" and "Configurator". "Letters" helps consultants write letters to customer and clients. You select an address or contact person from the "Clients" database and follow the letter writing wizard. It is only a concept release, but it generates PDFs on-the-fly already. "Configurator" helps each user to configure access to the Kumula database and some external applications. JUERGEN: "Clients" was improved in 2004.09. It can now store small pictures of each contact person like Kontact. A user can also describe each client as "potential client" or "lost client". JUERGEN: "Journal" has taken the biggest step since the last version. It is now a MDI application. It is very useful to enter accounting records and to watch an account report at the same time. It now handles fiscal years, multiple record batches provides account reports already. "Documents" wasn't touched in this release, it has the same functionality and the same bugs as version 2004.06. JUERGEN: We are a long way from a stable release, but we're working at it every day. Stability will happen. MANDRAKEMAG: How can Kumula help small businesses and enterprises? Why should they use it? Are you aware of Kumula being actively used by any business? In what capacity? JUERGEN: We're getting feedback from some people; some of them working for interested companies. Most of the feedback is created by bug reports and/or feature requests. JUERGEN: Of course we'd like to see Kumula included in some major distributions. But it has to become more stable first. Right now, there are many important features missing in most of the applications. They need to be added first! MANDRAKEMAG: What will Kumula be like in two years time? Who will be using it? JUERGEN: I guess in two years Kumula will be stable - and feature-rich - enough to manage all business clients and documents. These "basic" functions, which can be used by every business user, will hopefully be the first parts to become stable and complete. JUERGEN: Additionally I think there will be a few specific applications for specific business classes, like "Journal" for accounting offices and tax consultants. There could be an application for handling your clients' stocks and investments, or ebay seller software. Our web hosting company is thinking about developing a domain and webspace managing software for Kumula. There is a lot of potential there. JUERGEN: Hopefully, there will come a time when Kumula will be split into common business modules (Library, Clients, Documents, ...) and specialist modules for users to select individually if they need them. MANDRAKEMAG: Do you think Linux is suitable for the small business? What applications are "ready" for a Linux small business desktop? What is still missing? JUERGEN: Linux is definitely ready for the business desktop. This is why we started developing Kumula. There are a lot of applications for the business desktop already, many for small and even a few for larger companies. In most cases you only need an operating system (GNU/Linux) with a graphical user interface (KDE/GNOME) and office programs (OpenOffice/KOffice). So the basic requirements of small (!) business desktops are already there. But larger companies need additional software for daily work, and it's very hard to say what applications they still need. It varies from one company to another. JUERGEN: This is also the reason why we created this Kumula concept. The software is written in an easy-to-learn and platform-independent language and toolkit (Python and Qt). We hope that business users can create their individual modules easily - and share it with others. MANDRAKEMAG: How can readers find out more about Kumula? What is the best way for them to get involved? What skills do Kumula developers need? JUERGEN: There is a lot of information available on our project website (http://www.kumula.org). We discuss a lot of design concepts in our forums, and publish the development process on our roadmap page continously. If somebody wants to create software for Kumula, they should contact us directly - so that we can help them. Unfortunately, most of the documentation is incomplete. Sadly, there is very little docucmentation available for users or developers. Therefore, the best way to support Kumula would be writing thorough documentation for existing code.;-) JUERGEN: However, I think developers can get involved easily - just read the source code of the existing applications. Python/Qt isn't hard to learn, and the Kumula library does make some tasks easier. If a developer runs into problems, they can always contact us using our forums. JUERGEN: In the end, there is only one skill really needed: an interest in business software for Linux. MANDRAKEMAG: Thankyou very much for your time. If you'd like more information about the Kumula Suite, please surf to the official project page at http://www.kumula.org or email the development team at info AT kumula.org. ======================================================= FOUR URLS TO MAKE BUSINESS HARDWARE SELECTION A LOT EASIER Hardware hassles can be a problem for any Linux distribution. Every day devices that often work perfectly under MS Windows can become plastic paperweights due to a lack of hardware support. However, there are a number of websites that take a lot of the pain out of choosing some peripheral hardware for your Mandrakelinux PC. #1 PRINTERS: LinuxPrinting.org (http://www.linuxprinting.org) A comprehensive list of inkjet and laser printers and their current status under linux. Although this site is not Mandrake specific, it is an excellent starting point and does have an active community bulletin board. GENERAL OBSERVATION: Hewlett Packard and EPSON are the most Linux friendly manufacturer. Canon and Lexmark generally manufacture plastic paperweights. Most cheap inkjet multi-functions do not work except for some HP and EPSON models. #2 MODEMS: LinModems.org (http://www.linmodems.org/) A comprehensive list of resources relating to dial-up software modems and their necessary drivers under Linux. Once again, this site is not Mandrakelinux specific, although it does provide a lot of information you can then take to MandrakeClub, MandrakeUsers or any other Mandrake specific discussion forum. GENERAL OBSERVATION: Winmodems suck! Although it is possible to get internal winmodems using Intel, Connexant or Lucent chipsets to work under Linux. A reminder that commercial drivers for connexant and lucent winmodems are freely available for MandrakeClub members. #3 SCANNERS: SANE Project (http://www.sane-project.org/) SANE stands for "Scanner Access Now Easy" and is an application programming interface (API) that provides standardized access to any raster image scanner hardware (flatbed scanner, hand-held scanner, video- and still-cameras, frame-grabbers, etc.) The SANE website has a huge database of supported and unsupported scanners and information on how to get many problematic devices working under Linux. #4 GENERAL: Mandrake Certified (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3) Mandrakesoft maintain an official list of certified hardware for their distribution. Although generally a little out of date, the list is a good basic guide to hardware support for Mandrakelinux. Hopefully, these URLs will take some of the hassles out of hardware selection. Also, if you need further information/support remember to make a post on one of the many Mandrake Community forums: namely MandrakeClub, mandrakeusers.org or mandrakeclub.nl. Furthermore, it may be a good idea to remember these simple rules of thumb. * When printing, HP and EPSON are better than Canon and Lexmark. * When scanning, be SANE and check the Mandrake Control Centre first! * With dialup modems, external is best. Some internals work, some don't. * With broadband modems, ethernet connections work. USB might not. * Most gimmicky USB gadgets are plastic paperweights. * Real devices are always better supported than adapters. ======================================================= MANDRAKE IN THE HEADLINES Over the past month Mandrakesoft have made a number of announcements about current strategy, future products and the open source marketplace. Some of these include: [iMPORTANT] The Mandrake Mystery (Enterprise LinuxIT 01.09) URL: http://enterprise-linux-it.newsfactor.com/...?story_id=26647 Mandrakesoft positions for the future (NewsForge 21.09.) URL: http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/21/1858209 MandrakeSoft releases mobile Linux device (ZDNet.co.uk 16.08) URL: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix...39164736,00.htm French Defense Ministry commissions high-security Linux (ComputerWorld 23.09) URL: http://www.computerworld.com/printthis/200...4,96106,00.html Mandrakesoft offloads shares to go shopping (The Register 17.09) URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/17/mandrakesoft_shares/ Mandrake updates Linux desktop (DesktopLinux.com 20.09) URL: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4884430904.html Mandrakesoft Pledges Support to Linux Standard Base 2.0 (Mandrakesoft 13.09) URL: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/.../corporate/2507 For more Mandrake related news articles follow this hyperlink: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=...tnG=Search+News ======================================================= CHALLENGE! THE MANDRAKELINUX COMMUNITY MARKETING INITIATIVE [in response to The Mandrake Mystery in Enterprise Linux IT) In an article published on 01 September 2004, Russell Shaw discusses the role of Mandrakelinux in business computing. Shaw writes that: "Mandrakelinux is promoted as a friendly Linux operating system that offers ease of use for both servers and the desktop. Mandrakesoft makes the OS available in several languages and promises that it is far more stable -- and just as easy to operate -- as the Windows and Macintosh So, if Mandrakelinux is so user-friendly and powerful, why is it not a household word -- even compared to other Linux flavors? In a word: marketing. There is a widespread, if not universally shared, perception that Mandrakesoft's marketing efforts are far less sophisticated than its technical attributes." URL: http://enterprise-linux-it.newsfactor.com/...?story_id=26647 I agree with a lot of Shaw's article. Mandrakelinux is an extremely powerful software product with a lot of technically sophisticated features. Mandrake's marketshare is hard to calculate because most Mandrake installs come from free CDs. Also, there is a need to develop a greater level of awareness about Mandrakesoft and its products and services. MandrakeMag would like to take a page from the Mozilla Foundation's book. They have recently launched a community-based marketing initiative for the Firefox browser. It aim's to promote Firefox and increase surfers' awareness of Firefox and its advanced features. Central to this campaign is the collaborative creation of digital artwork; website banners and buttons; email signatures; and letters and advertising material designed to promote the Firefox browser. The URL is http://www.spreadfirefox.com/. This is an exceptionally clever idea - and MandrakeMag is happy to copy it and apply it to the Mandrakelinux Community Marketing Initiative. In a few days time, MandrakeMag will simultaneously start discussion threads relating to community marketing of Mandrakelinux on three Mandrakelinux friendly forums: the official Mandrakeclub.com; mandrakeusers.org and mandrakeclub.nl. A new section will be hyperlinked to the front page of the MandrakeMag website (http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au). This section will state the goals and objectives of this project; state the terms and conditions; link to all three discussion threads; and eventually include a library of community contributed material. What I would like to see created: * A number of web buttons identifying Mandrakelinux users and Club members. * A number of Mandrakelinux marketing wallpapers. * CD cover templates for home-made Mandrakelinux install CDs. * A basic two-page getting started guide for new Mandrake users. * A simple FAQ for prospective users I urge the community to rally behind this project and increase Mandrake's marketshare and popularity. In a few days time join the discussion threads, share your views, contribute your artwork and help build a stronger awareness for this incredible software community. Check out http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au in a few days time and email me personally at matthew AT doorsproject.net if you have any comments, suggestions or ideas OR would like to volunteer your time to this project. MandrakeMag readers - programmers, artists and users alike - let's build a better distribution by making the rest of the world realise how great it already is! :-) Consider yourselves challenged! ======================================================= THE NAMING OF FILES (by Chris F.A. Johnson) (with apologies to T.S. Eliot) The Naming of Files is a serious matter, This isn't just one of your Usenet flames; You may think at first it doesn't much matter But I tell you, a file should have a SENSIBLE NAME. What is a sensible name, and why does it matter? Unix file names may contain any character except NUL (ASCII 0) and slash (/). But one shouldn't use them all just because they are allowed. A file name is a syntactic unit, a word, if you like. When the integrity of the word is broken, problems ensue. The most common problem character is the space. Once a rarity in file names, it is now commonplace thanks to M$ Windows. $ file="$HOME/spaced-out filename" $ ls / > $file bash: $file: ambiguous redirect This problem is often solved by enclosing the file name in double quotes: $ ls -l / > "$file" $ cat "$file" drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 13 18:03 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jul 8 02:13 boot drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Dec 31 1969 dev drwxr-xr-x 82 root root 8192 Aug 17 11:11 etc drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 Jul 11 02:58 home ........ But spaces can cause problems, for example, when piping file names to another command, such as xargs: $ echo "$file" | xargs printf "%s\n" /home/chris/spaced-out filename Each word of the name is taken as a separate argument. $ echo "$file" | xargs printf "%s\n" /home/chris/spaced-out filename The worst character to deal with in file names is a newline (ASCII 10, or \n). While it usually can be dealt with, doing it in a shell script often requires very inefficient code. I prefer to consider such files to be broken. I fix them and get back to my regularly scheduled scripting. Characters to avoid in file names File names should not contain whitespace (space, tab or newline), or characters special to the shell. These include quotation marks, asterisks, apostrophes, back-ticks, parentheses, question marks. It's also a good idea to avoid non-printing characters. To be on the safe side, stick to alphanumerics, periods, hyphens and underscores. ======================================================= THE ADVANTAGES OF DHCP FOR SMALL BUSINESS (by Harry Phillips) Here are some of that advantages of using DHCP in a business environment: * Computers don't have to be individually configured; they get all the configuration information they need via DHCP, such as e.g., the gateway, a WINS server address, an IP address, a netmask, the name server addresses etc. * A network can be easily readdressed, expanded or made smaller, without having to reconfigure individual machines. * New services (e.g., WINS server, DNS Nameserver) can be easily installed, without having to manually configure each machine. * Mobility is dead easy - a laptop can be removed from one network and connected to another and get its correct configuration on the new network immediately- completely automatically. * Users who take their laptops home and have a small network at home can also set up DHCP at home. Plug out at work, plug in at home, done. * You can get away with less IP addresses in a network where not all of the computers are in constant use. * DHCP doesn't rule out fixed addresses; you can have dynamic as well as static addresses in a network, if required. * Using DHCP reservations allows administrators to have a central point of reference for all IP allocations in the organization. * Configuration information can be administered from a single point. You can use graphical applications such as webmin and the Mandrakelinux Control Centre. ======================================================= MANDRAKECLUB.NL - A DUTCH CORNER OF THE MANDRAKELINUX COMMUNITY (by Gerard) The popularity of Linux seems to be growing. The demand for websites and fora with tips, tricks and solutions, like http://justlinux.com and http://www.linuxquestions.com is bigger than ever. This seems to be even more true for Mandrake, as a lot of dedicated Mandrake fora sprang up all over the world. Up till now there weren't that many RPM repositories and websites that were totally focused on Mandrake. Red Hat and SuSe were the two big RPM-based distro's. But not anymore. The popularity of Mandrake is growing rapidly, and so is the number of websites and rpm repositories dedicated to this distro. One of the features that helped Mandrake to increase it's popularity, is the incredible range of languages it supports. And following this trend, a lot of language-bound fora were founded by enthusiasts. Examples of this trend are http://www.mandrakeusers.de in Germany, and http://www.mandrakeclub.nl. This article is about the last of these two websites, Mandrakeclub.nl (mcnl). While this website is mainly in Dutch, they also have a small section for English speaking Mandrake users and the part of the forum dedicated to rpm development is also in English. Mcnl is still a young site, it was founded in the autumn of 2003, and has since then grown to a fairly large websites - by Dutch standards. It presently has more than 1200 members. The forum is led by a small but dedicated group of mods, and there is a fair amount of community involvement. For a couple of months mcnl also has its own rpm repository, which already contains a fair number of really nice applications, like SuperKaramba, Mozilla Firefox, Gaim etc. And also a lot of games like SuperTux and Doom. To make sure these new RPMs do work for everyone, the mcnl team tests all applications before putting them in the "official-tree". Mcnl is still looking for testers and builders, so if you're interested in trying the newest packages for Mandrakelinux, send a personal message through the personal messaging system of the forum to Alain. Of course you can also request a RPM of that one special application through the English section of the forum. So just drop by at mcnl and tell the crew what you think of the forum. After all, Linux is what you make of it. For more information surf to http://www.mandrakeclub.nl ======================================================= THE MIALUG AUDIO NEWSLETTER: All about compression libraries A few weeks ago I was contacted by Gonzalo PORCEL (http://www.porcel.net/) from the Miami Linux Users Group (MIALUG) asking to share an article from the previous issue with his Linux User Group. For those of you who are curious, this is perfectly okay - although please email me first. Gonzalo, himself, is the author of a superb, free book about converting to Linux: How to Master GNU/Linux* in 20 steps. The book is available online at http://www.porcel.net and is well worth the read. Gonzalo also made me aware of MIALUG. I quickly surfed the website- (surfing is what you do in Miami, you don't browse on a beach :-) - and discovered some great news articles, an interesting discussion forum and an extremely interesting audio newsletter. The newsletter is available in MP3 and Ogg-Vorbis format and discusses compression libraries and package managers under GNU/Linux. I personally found the audio newsletter an interesting idea and a fascinating history lesson on compression ann package management. If you want to know about .tar, .tar.gz, .tgz, .tar.bz2, .rpm and .deb file formats - and what they all mean. Have a listen to the MIALUG audio newsletter. The URL is http://www.mialug.org/modules.php?name=For...topic&t=163. Please go easy on the bandwidth, this file may need to be mirrored in the near future to reduce MIALUG's traffic costs. Please be gentle everyone. ======================================================= HELP WANTED! 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At Home: AMD Duron 950 512M SDRAM 64M GeForce2MX 40G HDD 8x 4KUS DVD+R/DVD+RW drive Mandrake 10.0 OE At Work: Intel Celeron 2.4Ghz 512M RAM SiS integrated video 40G HDD 52x24x52x CD-RW Mandrake 10.0 OE Home Server: Intel PIII 733 768M SDRAM 2x 30GB HDD integrated S3 video 44x CD ROM Mandrake 9.2.1 Work Server: Dual Xeon 450 2G RAM 2x 36GB SCSI HDD 32x CDROM Mandrake Corporate Server 2.1

I am going to install 10.1RC1 on a spare PC this weekend. What if I posted screenshots from all of the config options in the Mandrake Control Centre. Could we work on the dialogues and interface messages from there?

Special Update I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion. The sheer volume of information this thread has generated (160+ posts) has created another daunting task: I need to synthesize this thread into something a company will have time to read... It's slow and hard work but I'm making progress.... between essays on inflation targeting, trade complementarity and macro-policy frameworks :P A discussion about this thread will be in the next issue of MandrakeMag. My submission to Mandrakesoft and their subsequent replies will be published on the website when they happen... I will certainly keep you all posted. Hopefully the results of endeavours will be included in Mandrakelinux 10.2 I would be very interested in discussing further usability and configuration options for the default Mandrakelinux desktop: please start another thread... I will certainly pay attention. There seems to be a lot of noise floating around this board about administrative conflicts and other peripheral problems. I am so glad that this thread was active, interesting and on-topic. I would particularly like to thank Arctic, Adrianovaroli and DarkElve for keeping this discussion going and the great ideas flowing... MandrakeMag will be starting a number of workbench projects on this board. I hope you all can continue to contribute. Also, if anyone would like to contribute to the next issue of MandrakeMag, the deadline is this Friday. Please email or PM me if you would like to contribute. I welcome all submissions.

I find Totem works the best on my hardware.

It's 1h20 and I've had a long day. Thankyou for collecting my spelling... I'll get my revenge later :-) Would anyone like to help try and summarise this thread for me?

Enjoy your trip arctic. I have enjoyed reading your contributions to this forum. I will be rapping this forum up in a few days and preparing my submission for Mandrakesoft. I will wait for you to come back. You have provided some incredibly good ideas and some exciting new designs for a Mandrakegalaxy desktop.

Its really very easy to install MPlayer and teach it to play nice with the various multimedia codecs (windows media, quicktime etc). I recently covered it in MandrakeMag: my mandrakelinux e-zine. The relevant issue can be downloaded (as a plain text file) from http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au/archives/Issue01.text To summarize: You need to set up the contrib and PLF URPMI repositories. And then open a konsole. Type "su" and become the administrator. Type "urpmi mplayer mplayerplugin" And wait for it to download and install all of the necessary applications. After that, Mplayer will appear in the MandrakeMenu.

I don't think Mozilla can do this... nor can Thunderbird and Firefox. I agree Opera's M2 is a great mail application - sadly Mozilla Mail doesnt play the same way. Sorry to bear such bad news.

Yet another vote for K3b... even if it somewhat unco-operative with my DVD Burner.

I've been looking out arctic's galaxy3 windec. It is very familiar and resembles the Crux and Cruxish windecs from XFCE4. However, the push buttons remind me of an existing KDE theme - Glow. Is this closer to your vision arctic?

This was covered in the latest issue of MandrakeMag. Assuming you have urpmi set up with PLF. Just type the following. urpmi libdvdcss2 Then select "Play DVD" from the menu in Totem or MPlayer. Full details are here: http://mandrakemag.tux.com.au/current.html...DVD_MOVIES_WITH

If you have subscribed to MandrakeMag in the past ten days could you please re-subscribe. I have just corrupted teh ldif file that stores my subscriber list *never edit UTF files on machines without UTF - it can only lead to bad things* I am incredibly sorry about this... *cries*

Hehe. I asked Telstra BigPond to mirror the 10.1 PPC Alpha so that I can play with the latests versions of Mandrake on my iBook. The URL is http://files.bigpond.com. You can request the 10.1 RC1 CDs if you are a BigPond customer. The webform is on the page