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SITE ONE SITE TWO SITE THREE SITE FOUR ON ACPI FIX From a very quick look, it appears that the 600m has some acpi issues. If I were you, I'd look over the sites linked above and maybe even contact the guys and ask advice. None of them use Mdk so will be slightly different and the latest 9.2 kernel has some improved acpi stuff in it. Are you running the latest kernel version? $ uname -r to find your running kernel. Then if you are brave to do some command line work, check out your /etc/lilo.conf and see what it is booting to now... is it acpi=on or acpi=off? You can also check the services that are running via MCC and see if anything is turning it off or on from there too. Then try to boot with the opposite option and see what happens. Remember, you cannot run acpi and apm at the same time as they conflict. Make sure that is not happening. My guess is that something in the way it reads the lid closing isn't being interpreted properly by acpi as it exists in the Mdk kernel. Hope this helps. :)

Gnubie, Sorry it won't run. :( Should run ok but a bit slow on 256MB. It runs well on my 512 and 384MB Ram setups. I'd really suggest you post to the pclinuxos mail list and let the "real" experts help. Here is a link to the signup info: CLICK HERE for pclinuxos maillist If you do not want to do that, you could post your hardware setup here and we'll try to help via relay. A couple things that can cause boot issues: 1) NIC/LAN card that is not properly identified or 2) USB issues. If you have a USB scanner, printer, or other devices unplug them and try to boot. Sometimes boot issues are on peripheral hardware that is not getting recognized properly. Once it boots you can try to 'hotplug' by plugging your USB devices back in and seeing if they are recognized.

My Satellite 2805-S402 has a Yamaha sound card and it is auto-detected using PCLinuxOS live CD which is based on Mandrake 9.2 with some Texstar tweaks. My card is detected as a YMF-754 DS-1E audio controller (snd ymfpci). Due to limited harddrive space until I finish a doctoral project using some Windoze software, I haven't yet installed to hd on this laptop. Let me know what other info you need and I'll boot to the Mdk and see if I can dig up more info for you.

Gnubie, How much RAM do you have? Below 128MB I do not think it will work and it is slow on less than 256MB. I tried it on an older Acer PII/266 with 192MB and it won't run on it either. System hangs on boot no matter what options I tried so far. On my laptop it won't load if I use the "laptop" command on boot. There is a tweak needed because it tries to load acpi and apm which are mutually exclusive. I experimented and used "laptop acpi=off" and it worked. It also worked by just hitting "enter key" at the startup boot prompt. My desktop works great and boots from both cdrw and cdrom. K3b only works if I boot off the cdrom though as you cannot remove the cd when you want to burn. I burned a test iso using k3b directly off the live cd. Amazing how much Texstar got into this. It is a good tool!

If you haven't heard or seen the news on the pclinuxonline site, you should check out this thread.Click HERE for Texstar's PCLinuxOS info It is a live CD,like Knoppix, but based on Mandrake with Texstar's special tweaks and packaging. One CD that is crammed full of goodies. It is now in PREVIEW 3 so is not a finished product, but it is already good and will surely get better as the bugs are found and fixed. If you have feedback, you can post to pclinuxonline.com site or join the maillist and help give feedback. It's been a good way to learn and help the community grow. :)

Earny and Anna, Sorry I am on the other side of the world and it adds to the suspense of getting things going. From your post, it doesn't appear that the kernel module you need is provided by the kernel you have installed. Your "tail" shows a much earlier version than the HOW TO does. Guess we'll have to compile a new module after all. I need to do some homework and get back to you. I've been really sick here and running back and forth to the hospital doing tests. I have another appointment in an hour or so, and won't be able to do this until later this morning my time at the earliest. Sorry... hope bvc or someone can offer some advice until I can get back to this. Blessings... you are doing great. and you are right Earny, I am not one to give up. My motto is, "I hate to get beat by a machine!" :)

Did you check with this command yet? # grep -i wacom /var/log/messages | tail This is from Wacom driver loaded section of HOW TO? CLICK HERE Compare your info from the command with the HOW TO From the previous lsmod it appears all the needed modules are loading (wacom, usb-uhci, input, mousedev, evdev) but we need to see if the the wacom version is ok... and that we can see from the above command. That is the missing link I think. ;)

bvc, Thanks for some confirmation on this! Greatly appreciated. So Earny you are probably OK with the kernel-source you installed. Let's give it a go. Just follow these instructions: Which means you have to add a line for each of the three; wacom, usbcore, input to the file /etc/modules If you are not sure how to do that, ask and one of us can give you step by step instructions on how to edit the file and add those lines. You'll have to be root to do this by the way.

Anna, I'd never laugh! One of the biggest problems is most gnu/linux documentation (like the Wacom HOW TO) assumes a level of linux knowledge that is higher than most new users have achieved. So they leave out steps and don't explain things clearly. It makes sense if you have experience, but leaves us newbies confused. :( The wacom HOW TO makes it sound like you _must_ compile the kernel modules because when they were written, it was true. The one little paragraph I quoted is easy to overlook as the focus is on the compiling of the modules to replace modules that did not work. Oh well... This is how we all learn linux, right? Trial and error is a good teacher but sometimes it hurts and takes a lot of time. Bedtime here... hope you all have a good day. I'll check the progress report in the morning. Don't give up Earny! :)

Thanks for the help Anna! I think maybe Earny is in Netherlands too, right? :-) Wacom Graphire is a graphic tablet for illustration/art work. They are pretty cool and can do quite a bit. You would probably like one for the graphic work you do too! :) If I read the HOW TO correctly, the current kernel includes the correct modules. They said, So unless something is wrong, the kernel modules in 9.2 are 2.4.22+ so they should include the modules. I do not think you have to compile the modules and install them... that is GOOD NEWS because that is the hardest part and the most confusing. I'd advise trying them first since they already exist. If they do not work, then we'll have to compile and replace the ones in the kernel now. So we can go right to the install part I think. To test, we just need to modprobe wacom to load temporarily to test it. Then the modules have to be set to load on startup once we confirm the modules work. That's pretty simple to do. I tested # modprobe wacom on my 9.1 install with 2.4.21-0.25 kernel and it loads the wacom module just fine and I can see it by checking # lsmod | grep wacom.

Thanks Anna! Do you use a Wacom device there? I agree the kernel and kernel-source need to match. After the kernel and kernel-source are matched, I think we can just modprobe it and see if it will load the modules and if the wacom will be detected. Earny, After you get the matching kernel-source installed. As root run # lsmod (that's a small L infront) and post your results. Let's see if the proper modules are loaded or not.

Earny, Sorry this is such a pain. I think you really should have used the kernel-source rpm that matches your installed kernel. You are running the original 9.2 kernel and that is kernel-2.4.22.10mdk. The kernel-source you installed is newer and while 99% the same, you might have problems with compiling software later. Need some clarification too. You said, How did you install with konqueror? Do you mean you clicked on the kernel-source rpm file and it installed from there? Did it ask for a password? Not sure about just copying the usb driver as you described. What directory did you copy it into? I'm a bit concerned with the boot messages you got... sounds like a problem, but that one's a new one to me... let's get bvc or someone else to help us with that. Let's see what some others add to this. EDIT: Can someone help us on this... the wacom drivers are in the kernel and available, but I don't know enough to help Earny get them loaded right. Won't a #modprobe wacom command do this for the moment so we can test it? Or will the fact that the kernel-source is different from active kernel cause a mis-match error? Any harm in trying?

Earny, Yes, it is a step in the right direction. GOOD! The wacom.o file is the kernel module for wacom and the wacom.c is the usb driver that it needs. Funny it didn't find it when you did the locate cmd. You can try $ locate wacom and it should show any file with wacom in the name. That might locate the usb driver part. It might indicate you still need to install the kernel-source rpm. kernel-source-2.4.22-18mdk.i586.rpm is the file I think you need unless you updated the kernel. Check by doing a $ uname -r which gives your installed and active kernel version. You'll need to have mandrake 9.2 sources setup as I don't think it is on the cd's. The file is big (40.3MB) so it might take time to download depending on your connection. You can use Mandrake Update to install the kernel-source package without problems. Or you can download to a directory by itself and run #urmpi --test -v kernel-source-2.4.22-18mdk.i586.rpm to test if it will install ok. If it says installation possible, then run #urpmi -v kernel-source-2.4.22-18mdk.i586.rpm and it will install it for you. After you've got the kernel-source installed then see if the usb driver wacom.c is located by the $locate wacom.c command. If it is, then plug in and turn on the wacom device and see if the usb driver activates itself. Looks like some XFree86 config is needed to, but let's see how far this takes you. I think we are on the right track now.

I was thinking of the same board and did searches too... No hits that indicate anyone has it working, but of course that doesn't mean it isn't... just not in search engines yet. If I find anything, I'll let you know.

:unsure: Earny, Sorry I got you confused. I'm doing some reading on the wacom install and will try to get back with you soon. Maybe some of the others can help us too. CLICK FOR WACOM LINK The instructions on the Wacom and SourceForge site are a bit confusing. The good news (I think) is that the kernel in Mandrake 9.1 already has the modules you need to run the Wacom device. SO you don't have to do all the technical stuff of preparing your kernel to work with the Wacom device... Mandrake did that part. That's good news! From the Wacom install instructions: This is the case on my 9.1 the files are: [kelly@localhost kelly]$ locate wacom.o /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/usb/wacom.o.gz [kelly@localhost kelly]$ locate wacom.c /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.25mdk/drivers/usb/wacom.c We just need to activate these kernel modules so they can connect with your device. From the instructions it says the correct modules are in the 2.4.21 and higher kernels so 9.2 kernel should be good since it is .22 version. I'll check back later after I get some things done. Hope this gets us headed in the right direction, but I think we still need a "voice of experience" to assist us. EDIT: go to Konqueror and type man:wacom in the Location box and see more info... it's there.

I have company coming and don't have enough time to really search this out. But more convinced it is a version issue. CLICK HERE for list of libssl.so.2 packages... Hope someone can help you better than I am able. Steve's idea is a good one, but I don't think any of the mandrake packages use this lib file from a quick look. Hopefully, I just missed it though. Good luck!

You can also go to the rpm site and they even have a link to a Mandrake How-TO CLICK HERE for RPM HOW TO's For urpmi info try this link: CLICK HERE for urpmi faq Mandrake Update automates things but you have to setup your sources to have rpm packages available to you. On a dialup it can take several minutes to update the files and build its database before you'll see anything available to install. These plus what they have given above should help you understand it. Takes some time to get comfortable with it all, but rpm/urpm are really powerful once you learn how to use the many features. Enjoy! :)

Hey if you can make it work until you get a better solution... do it and don't feel bad! :) I would check the version of Open SSL because they have had several updates lately. This might mean the new lib files are not the version the installer is expecting so it is giving you the error. Just a hunch, but check which versions are required versus what you have installed.

thanks Mystified! I understand that it is a bit hectic right now. :)

Here's a good link that might help you. LINK-- Click HERE I think there is a good chance you can install this program, but the key is knowing if the library versions needed are available for your version of mandrake. Some file locations maybe a bit different too. I'm sure some more experienced people will have ideas to help, but this might give you a start in the right direction. Hope so! Good luck! Kerio mailserver looks nice! EDIT: another thing that might help is try # urpmi --test -v *.rpm as it will test the install and give you a bit more feedback on the problem. If it says "Install is possible" then run it again without the --test part.

Good points alaa! Earny, Hope we don't confuse you more with all our info! One thing about gnu/linux is that there are almost always several alternate ways to do things. If you do the kernel update I strongly suggest you follow the official mandrake instructions at this website: Mandrake Kernel Update instructions... CLICK HERE The writeup on that site is very easy to follow. To be safe, you need to follow the instructions carefully and edit your /etc/lilo.conf file. You must rerun lilo by typing # lilo -v before you reboot. If you don't do that you might have trouble restarting. By following Mandrake's instructions, you can choose your original kernel at the lilo boot screen. I actually have three different kernel versions installed on my 9.1 setup and can choose to boot on any of them. B)

Gowater, Thanks for the pointers! Good tutorial! :) Some of this got lost as Earny and I had posted a few times on the new board earlier today. When they finished updating and moving the last two week's messages to this site, our new messages/thread were lost. Not totally sure, but seems that the install of a new kernel from MCC was to enable a Wacom device and was prompted because there was no /usr/src/linux in the directory tree. I think the attempt to install this kernel was that Earny didn't think a kernel was installed since instructions probably said that some needed files would be in /usr/src/linux. Not sure yet if Earny needs to compile anything or not... need more info to know. Anyhow, after Earny reinstalled 9.2 things work for now. We'll tackle it later when we get more info. I think all that is needed now is to get the driver for the Wacom working after Earny gives more details on what is needed. Earny: I looked at the drivers on the wacom site, and also found the modules for the Wacom are in my 9.1 kernel so I am guessing they are in the 9.2 version as well. It may just be a USB problem that needs resolved. Did you install mandrake 9.2 with the Wacom plugged in and turned on? If not, it might not be detecting it properly. You might try plugging the Wacom in and booting with it turned on to see if Harddrake and USB hotplug auto detect it. Are you following the how to at :Wacom HOW TO link ?

Yes, I think that was it. Seems to have wiped out a thread that Earny and I were working on. It was on the old board and not here yet. I started a new topic and we took off from where we were. But after the update it is missing. No big deal. I rewrote a reply under the old thread that is now here. Nice work to pull this off as smoothly as you all have done! I am impressed! Thanks!

:unsure: Earny, I got your earlier reply to the new thread on this new board... Sorry, but looks like the posts we both made today got lost in the update... Before the post got lost, I replied to you and said I agreed that the reinstall was probably the easiest fix. Here's some more info for you: The file you referred to is file:/usr/src/linux not /usr/scr/linux and contains the kernel source and info. If that's all you need, then just install the kernel-source and kernel-doc that match the kernel you are running. At a command line type $ uname -r to check your kernel version then install the same kernel-source and kernel-doc rpm's. It is perfectly safe to install kernel-doc and kernel-source rpms from the MCC Install Software gui. Then you can use the kernel-source and kernel-doc to compile the software you need for your Wacom. If you add another kernel by upgrading (remember do not use MCC or Install Software for installing the main kernel) it will make an additional file in that directory. My 9.1 has this file:/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-0.25mdk after I upgraded it to the latest kernel. You can look there to see some files about what modules and drivers are in the kernel already. Hope the move doesn't mess up this reply too. I'm confident the mods and admins will get things running smoothly very soon. :)