Problem with booting in Mandriva Spring

zibi1981 · May 31, 2007

I searched around the web and this board of course, but couldn't find solution to my new problem :sad: And here it is...

Yesterday I replaced my old motherboard - ASUS A7V600-X - with "new" one, bought on an Internet auction - ASUS A7V880. These two don't seem to vary a lot, they both have the same southbridge (VIA VT8237) i.e., but my new mobo has Dual RAM access and better northbridge. Nonetheless I only replaced motherboard, all the other components remain the same. Firstly I installed Windows XP on a two SATA HDDs based RAID 0 without any complications. Then I installed Mandriva Spring on a ATA-133 Maxtor HDD. The installation process ended without any problems, but when it came to first boot, it went only as far as GRUB menu. When I chose first option (normal boot), the progress bar didn't even move... Then I remembered that there was some issues with ACPI described around the web, so on the next couple of restarts I have tried to add to kernel options almost all combinations off

noapic nolapic acpi=off

I also tried to alternatingly turn off and on all the ACPI/APIC options i BIOS - the only effect was, that progress bar did finally move forward, but when it came to the stage of displaying KDE login menu, the screen turned black but remained on. And till now I couldn't manage to change that :wall:

I also tried to first start in failsafe mode, and then after login in type in console startx, but when I did that as a normal user I got

xauth: creating new authority file /home/zibi1981.2153
xauth: creating new authority file /home/.Xauthority

xauth: creating new authority file /home/.Xauthority

Authentification failed - cannot start X server.

Perhaps you do not have console ownership?

giving up

xinit: Network is unreachable (errno101): unable to connect to X server

xinit: No such process (errno3): Server error

Then I logged in as root and typed startx again, but the screen turned black, as I described above.

Could anyone help me with this? :unsure:

scarecrow · May 31, 2007

It could be many things... for starters, could you post your /etc/pam.d/login contents?

Edited May 31, 2007 by scarecrow

zibi1981 · June 1, 2007

Thx for your reply. And here are the logs you asked

#%PAM-1.0
auth	   required	pam_securetty.so
auth	   required	pam_nologin.so
auth	   include	system-auth
account	include	system-auth
password   include	system-auth
session	optional	pam_console.so
session	include	system-auth

AussieJohn · June 2, 2007

Since your new board is similar to your earlier one (I also have, and am using the same model as your earlier one) try removing the noapic nolapic acpi=off entirely so the only item you have in the bootup is

splash =silent and nothing else.

Cheers. John.

Edited June 2, 2007 by AussieJohn

zibi1981 · June 2, 2007

Thanks for your suggestion John, but boot parameters of my Mandriva system are as follows

BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=LABEL= System resume=/dev/hda2 splash=silent vga=791

so splash=silent is already included. When I'm trying to boot using these parameters without any modifications, nothing happens. When I add acpi=off, the system loads until KDE login menu, where screen turns black and nothing happens.

Edited June 2, 2007 by zibi1981

AussieJohn · June 2, 2007

You could also try removing ......resume=/dev/hda2........as well.

Try adding pci=nomsi. In the bios do the following....make sure INTERRUPT MODE is set to APIC, and Plug 'n' Play mode is set to NO.

It is worth a try.

Cheers. John

zibi1981 · June 2, 2007

Didn't know how to

make sure INTERRUPT MODE is set to APIC

but the other things weren't helpful :sad:

AussieJohn · June 3, 2007

I presume you know how to enter the bios but if not then click repeatedly on the delete key as the machine starts up.

Use the arrow keys to move about.

Select...... Boot.........then go down to........ Plug & Play O/S....... and set it to...... NO.

Then move down to......Interrupt Mode.....and set it to...... APIC.

It is likely on PIC by default. Then click F10 key and Enter or OK.

Cheers. John.

Edited June 3, 2007 by AussieJohn

zibi1981 · June 3, 2007

In my BIOS setup it all looks quite different, than in yours John. I didn't find anything such as Interrupt mode anywhere, and the other option is located in Advanced -> PCIPnP -> Plug And Play O/S, and I've already set it to [No].

zibi1981 · June 11, 2007

So no one has an idea what am I doing wrong? I'd really want to have my Mandriva back, but since I've replaced my old mobo I could only successfully install Windows Xp :sad: :sad: :sad:

ianw1974 · June 12, 2007

I would say it's a problem with your X server, since it goes black after it's booted.

From the console, login as root, and then:

service dm stop
service xfs stop

then run mcc from the command line and reconfigure your display for vesa, and see if it gets any better. Run startx after this, and if you get it working, chances are it was some problem with your config.

zibi1981 · June 16, 2007

It seems to me You may have right ianw1974, it could be something with my X server. It's totally incomprehensible to me, as I never had this kind of problem with my old motherboard, an with my "new" one I already reinstalled Mandriva three times but without avail :sad:

I did as You advise me, and was able to start X server as a root. Mandriva seemed to be working properly for me. Then I logged out, and typed startx as a normal user, and I got

xauth: creating new authority file /home/zibi1981/.serverauth.2619
Authentication failed - cannot start X server.

Perhaps you do not have console ownership?xinit: Server error.

I checked, and there wasn't any file of a name serverauth.2619 created.

What next would You suggest? :help:

ffi · June 16, 2007

I think you should look for a similar file in /root and delete it (and maybe .Xauthority too).

zibi1981 · June 23, 2007

Uff, I finally managed to install Mandriva making use of Ian's suggestions. Now I got another problems:

1. after I updated the system, it doesn't shut down or restart anymore. The screen just turns black and nothing happens until I'll eventually press "restart" button... Below is GRUB's menu.lst file

[zibi1981@localhost ~]$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
timeout 15
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/gfxmenu
default 4

title linux
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=/dev/hda1 noapic nolapic resume=/dev/hda2 splash=silent vga=791
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=/dev/hda1 noapic nolapic resume=/dev/hda2
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=/dev/hda1 noapic failsafe nolapic
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title 2.6.17-13
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-13mdv BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.17-13 root=/dev/hda1 noapic nolapic resume=/dev/hda2 splash=silent vga=791
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.6.17-13mdv.img

title 2.6.17-14
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-14mdv BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.17-14 root=/dev/hda1 noapic nolapic resume=/dev/hda2 splash=silent vga=791
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.6.17-14mdv.img

Maybe I should add acpi=off? :unsure: I'm not sure...

2. I'm forced to use Vesa display driver until ATI releases theirs with X.org 7.2 support. And because of it my monitor's refresh rate is set to 60 Hz, although KDE tells me, that it is 86 Hz... :wall: Again... My eyes are going to explode soon... Well, I tried the trick with gtf, but as far with no avail. And here is my xorg.conf file

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 142098)

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"
# font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
FontPath "unix/:-1"

# minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
#DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
Load "dri" # direct rendering
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "pl"
Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse2"
Driver "evdev"
Option "product" "0xc01d"
Option "HWheelRelativeAxisButtons" "7 6"
Option "vendor" "0x046d"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"
VendorName "Sony"
ModelName "CPD E-230"
HorizSync 38.5-85.0
VertRefresh 48-170

# 1024x768 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 60.15 kHz; pclk: 81.80 MHz
Modeline "1024x768_75.00"  81.80  1024 1080 1192 1360  768 769 772 802  -HSync +Vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576"	 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576"	 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "device1"
Driver "vesa"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "device1"
Monitor "monitor1"
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
	Depth 8
	Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
	Depth 15
	Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
	Depth 16
	Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
	Depth 24
	Modes "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Mouse2" "SendCoreEvents"
Screen "screen1"
EndSection

I'm counting on Your advises guys ;)

Edited June 23, 2007 by zibi1981

ianw1974 · June 23, 2007

acpi=off won't help, because it'll disable ACPI which is what is responsible for shutting your machine down. I'd check the acpi packages are installed:

rpm -qa | grep -i acpi

if you don't have any, check the list of installable packages and install the acpi ones. As for your video card, have you tried using the open-source ATI (fglrx) that comes with Mandriva. Don't install the ati packages or dkms-ati if they don't work, just switch from vesa to ATI (fglrx) and see if it makes a difference.

If your monitor is a flat panel LCD, 60Hz is enough anyway.

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