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Hi there, been using kpilot to hotsync Palm Tunsten E2 with Kontact since version 10.0 of Mandriva.

All of a sudden, in Mandriva 2007, it no longer works.

 

The setting I have always used in Kpilot device settings is /dev/ttyusb0

 

Interestingly I notice that there is no longer ttyusb* in /dev or /dev/usb

Has something changed?

 

Mike

 

 

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Its probably just the device association....

The best thing to diagnose is open a terminal and

tail -f dmesg

 

when you poress the hotsynch it should tell you the correct device.... if you have a memory card it might show you two devices though so you have to kinds try both....

 

if you keep pressing it they seem to just increment .... and the way I found to reset this was

rmmod visor

(Im guessing its still the visor module)

and then

modprobe visor

 

(you can check the exact name using lsmod)

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Output from dmesg when hotsync is pressed is :-

 

usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4

usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

 

weired! :)

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I had to look in /var/log/messages when I connected something once that was a USB --> Serial (COM) port. Maybe see if this shows anything. When connected, do you see anything appear in /dev that might relate to usb?

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var/log/messages shows same as dmesg

Oct 11 12:41:20 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

Oct 11 12:42:26 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4

 

But I think I found the device, it`s in /dev/bus/usb/002/011 the last part /011 increments each time I press hotsync.

 

Thanks for help so far Gowata, Ianw1974 :)

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ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup

usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2

usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

usbcore: registered new driver usbserial

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for generic

usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Handspring Visor / Palm OS

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 3.5

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 5.0

visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1

usbcore: registered new driver visor

drivers/usb/serial/visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver

 

This is what I get BUT..... its not connecting.....

 

So i have to find the device string for the Palm, in my case its a Zire 72

 

So I press the synch and

lsusb

gives me

Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0830:0061 Palm, Inc.

 

Now I edit /etc/modules.conf (might be slightly different on Mandriva)

options visor vendor=0x0830 product=0x061

 

just add that line to the end then

update-modules

 

This then adds this to the real modules file in Debian....

 

root@Kanotix32:/l# rmmod visor

root@Kanotix32:/# modprobe visor

 

repeat dmesg

 

 

ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup

usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5

usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1

 

hmmm... the module only unloads when kpilot is stopped fully (icon on task bar)

Now I have ttyUSB2 and ttyUSB3 so i unload kpilot and ........

rmmod visor

:D

 

Now Im going to try setting it to the ttyUSB1

 

kpilot tells me

WARNING: KPilot error: Pilot device /dev/ttyUSB1 does not exist. Probably it is a USB device and will appear during a HotSync.

 

 

So time to try again

 

Success ... It needs to be the ttyUSB1

 

So its now synched....

You need to find the correct strings from lsusb (the first is manufacturer and the second is the device and use the modules.conf format to add them so that the module visor knows what to do....

 

Wow... hope that helps, at least mie is working again after my reinstall...

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Might be modprobe.conf in mandy, as there's no modules.conf.

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yahooooooo

 

I guess i should write it up properly for mandriva....

 

what usb device strings sis you get (manufacturer should be the same) but the model might be different??

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what usb device strings sis you get (manufacturer should be the same) but the model might be different??

Same,

 

Bus 002 Device 025: ID 0830:0061 Palm, Inc.

 

:)

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note edited (correced for mandy)

First off we need to check its being seen when plugged in... this seems to be based on pressing the hotsynch on the device itself.

Here is what I get from dmesg

 

ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup

usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2

usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

usbcore: registered new driver usbserial

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for generic

usbcore: registered new driver usbserial_generic

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Handspring Visor / Palm OS

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 3.5

drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Sony Clie 5.0

visor 2-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0

usb 2-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1

usbcore: registered new driver visor

drivers/usb/serial/visor.c: USB HandSpring Visor / Palm OS driver

 

This is what I get BUT..... its not connecting.....

 

So i have to find the device string for the Palm, in my case its a Zire 72

 

So I press the synch and

lsusb

gives me

 

Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0830:0061 Palm, Inc.

 

This needs reformating for hex so it becomes 0x0830 product=0x061

 

Now edit /etc/modprobe.conf and add the following line so the visor module knows to handle this device.

 

options visor vendor=0x0830 product=0x061

 

just add that line to the end thenhowever if you keep pressing the synch it keeps incrementing the /dev/ttyUSB so you must unload it....and reload it

 

root@Kanotix32:/l# rmmod visor

root@Kanotix32:/# modprobe visor

 

However if kpilot is open this won't work.... since its locking the visor module...

 

Now Im going to try setting it to the ttyUSB1 (since ttyUSB0 doesn't work on the Zire72 it must be the SD storage)

I set kpliot to /dev/ttyUSB1

kpilot tells me

WARNING: KPilot error: Pilot device /dev/ttyUSB1 does not exist. Probably it is a USB device and will appear during a HotSync.

So its OK... it should appear when the synch is pressed....

 

So time to try again

 

Success ... It needs to be the ttyUSB1

 

So its now synched....

You need to find the correct strings from lsusb (the first is manufacturer and the second is the device and use the modules.conf format to add them so that the module visor knows what to do....

 

 

 

Update:

Oops, according to 2007 release notes this doesn't work

PalmOS based PDAs

 

Pilot-link (software used to access PalmOS based PDAs) has been

upgraded to version 0.12 and has been configured to use only libusb to

communicate with USB PalmOS based PDAs. The 'visor' kernel module will

no longer be loaded and software used to synchronize with such PDAs

should be reconfigured to use the usb: port, instead of the deprecated

/dev/pilot , /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1 device nodes.

Edited by Gowator

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Hi,

I applied that to my Palm Tungsten T2 and it works fine. Thanks for that great work, I might keep 2007 after all!

 

Stef :D

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Hi,

I applied that to my Palm Tungsten T2 and it works fine. Thanks for that great work, I might keep 2007 after all!

 

Stef :D

Sorry to bump a thread that is "solved", but I'm struggling with getting my Tungsten T3 working with 2007. (It worked fine in 2006 and before.) When you say "I applied that", what is "that"? the modprobe visor, /dev/ttyUSBx, etc., or the usb:port thing?

 

So far I haven't gotten it to work correctly using /dev/ttyUSBx, and I have no idea how to do the usb:port thing. :sad: :cry:

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Sorry to bump a thread that is "solved", but I'm struggling with getting my Tungsten T3 working with 2007. (It worked fine in 2006 and before.) When you say "I applied that", what is "that"? the modprobe visor, /dev/ttyUSBx, etc., or the usb:port thing?

 

So far I haven't gotten it to work correctly using /dev/ttyUSBx, and I have no idea how to do the usb:port thing. :sad: :cry:

Hi,

 

Sorry for the late reply but i am trying to replicate what I did before : replace /dev/visor by /dev/ttyUSB1 and add the lines to modprobe.conf, and it doesn t work anymore. Smthg to do with the recent kernel upgrade??

 

Stef

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