condorito Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 I have always hated the downloads page @ Mandriva's. Are they trying to get you confused with so much stuff, or are they trying to make you go Club? After all it's a business, bottom line you know!!! I mean, would it be too bad for their bottom line to include a bit-torrent link to the free version without the hassle of having to actively look for it. I think Mandriva's site is setup like that to disencourage users from getting the free version. I don't know, just a little rant I guess, though I don't think I am too far off. [moved from Talk-Talk by spinynorman] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Old subject and one which has frustrated many members here in the past. I don't think Mandrake have a clear idea if they are trying to get you to buy a powerpack or go club or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 go to mandrivalinux.com -> click on "download" on the left hand side -> scroll down to the mention of the "free edition" -> scroll down to the edition you want -> click on "mirrors for mandriva linux [whatever edition you choose", didn't seem any harder to get to than any other linux distro download. mandriva has never offered bittorrents, though, which is a bit sad since it's a great way to distribute a product. and of course they bug you to buy it, that's how they make money and continue to make a product! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 go to mandrivalinux.com -> click on "download" on the left hand side -> scroll down to the mention of the "free edition" -> scroll down to the edition you want -> click on "mirrors for mandriva linux [whatever edition you choose", didn't seem any harder to get to than any other linux distro download. mandriva has never offered bittorrents, though, which is a bit sad since it's a great way to distribute a product. and of course they bug you to buy it, that's how they make money and continue to make a product! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I thought bit torrent was available to club members? I just tested the mandriva downloads and it is heaps better than the old days where finding the downloads page was the hardest part. Now its understanding the differences ... a big step I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devries Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 The easy urpmi link above gives the mirror addresses too. Just browse throught the folders to the isos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condorito Posted December 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Free, Free, Free... Mandriva 2006 Free so makes me feel I am freeloading by getting the free version. Looks like Fedora's the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Yes, I don't particularly like their branding "free" everywhere either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 If it's only the wallpaper/bootsplash that is getting on your nerves, I can send you the non-free wallpaper (which doesn't say "non-free" of course). Way better than the free one and in that nice indigo colour, instead of simple blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I have powerpack so I don't get the free bit, but anyone I install for I always put free. However, mine is still blue and not purple in Powerpack :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Hmmm. I think it comes down to the same problem as ever.... IMPORTANT NOTE: It's crucial for Mandriva Linux's future that you join the Mandriva Club if you download any version of Mandriva Linux. Club members are entitled to download many additional software and have many other advantages such as an extended list of mirrors and early access to Mandriva Linux new releases! The basic problem is they can't decide between 'the club' and Powerpacks etc. and don't really have a well defined business model. Basically you get lost in what you get for your money... Powerpack or Club? etc. and it takes a lot of reading to work it out. Most people can't be bothered, you need to be a Mandriva fan to wade through the products and pricing so they are trying to discourage FREE and get peopel to pay up. The problem is I was never against paying up.... I was against them changing what it got you randomly from one release to the next. StarOffice was one I remember where it was provided to everyone, then only members then only silver members and above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I see Free as in Free Software - which is the other meaning, that they also intend. And that one is purely positive, IMHO. Where this in any way indicates that FC is the way to go is beyond me - FC is the RH testing distro where you don't get the final version... and where IMHO the online (fan-) support has quite a bit of catching up to do with for example this board, when it comes to newbies (RH/FC and Debian crowd are often more UTFS/RTFM types and less newbie friendly).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiver_Fluffi Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 (edited) and where IMHO the online (fan-) support has quite a bit of catching up to do with for example this board, when it comes to newbies (RH/FC and Debian crowd are often more UTFS/RTFM types and less newbie friendly).... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not aware of the RH community and the boards you refer to, but are we talking about an unofficial, or official community here? IMHO it would be wrong to compare an unnoficial community of one distro to an official comunity of another. To be fair, Mandriva's official community is nothing for them to be proud of, if anyone every needs help with Mandy, I send them here as they are more likely to get the answers they need in a timely fashion (barring a few specific issues privvy to the official community itself, etc) Edited December 24, 2005 by Reiver_Fluffi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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