Gowator Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 The bottom line on upgrades is be prepared for it to go wrong and be able to fix it if it does... it obviously can work but it is a more expert solution than a clean install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a13x Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 (edited) Spinynorman officialy declared me a Mandrake guru. This means that I must (be able to) handle it. Edited September 23, 2004 by a13x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 The bottom line on upgrades is be prepared for it to go wrong and be able to fix it if it does... it obviously can work but it is a more expert solution than a clean install. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In this new dawning of urpmi and its excellence, I think we should be careful with that 4 letter word 'upgrade' I've come to the conclusion that an upgrade via urpmi and an upgrade via the mandrake installer are 2 completely different things ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosterrj Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 this ought to work. devfs -> udev migration is handled, might need to remove devfs=mount from lilo.conf, though. the other big one to watch out for that I can think of is make sure that you overwrite kdmrc with kdmrc.rpmnew - apparently, if you don't, mdkkdm won't work. other than that, should be fine. (btw, my laptop hasn't had a fresh install since 9.0 :>) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I juust started a thread on my failed(?) ftp upgrade from 10.0 OE (no X), but would like to know where to change the kdmrc to kdmrc.rpmnew. So if I boot into the old or new kernels do I need to edit lilo.conf with VIM to take out the devfs reference? I am really crappy using VIM and might destroy the whole file. No joke. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 If you like a more graphic type editor while using CLI, use Midnight Commander. Just type "mc". It installs as a default since 9.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 or nano, but unfortunately it's in contrib. you could always take out the devfs entry *before* upgrading; it won't break an existing system (it'll just revert to using a static /dev). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 It's probably in /etc/kde/kdm. But I don't use KDE, so I don't know for sure. A way to verify if this is the issue is to run startx from runlevel 3 - if that works it's probably a kdm problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomedTX Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 FWIW, I recently upgraded to 10.1 over ftp and then later downloaded the CD's. It turns out that the CD's have newer versions of some programs than any of the Mandrake 10.1 mirrors. The most notable one is KDE 3.3 instead of 3.2, but there were others. I am looking through the mirrors-list on MandrakeClub, and so far I haven't found a single mirror that shows KDE 3.3 packages in the cooker, 10.1, or community trees. This makes me wonder where they are storing the packages that are located on the CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 kde-3.3 is one of the Club perks that's why. It will not be on the mirrors yet and is not supposed to be. Any pkg that is newer id for clubies :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Upgrade comment: I had 10.1 community release that had been made by upgrading from beta1. I recently downloaded and fresh installed the iso's. Guess what? It works better than urpmi upgrading! I can't ever explain this stuff, so I give up. I only know that for years, I have had best results fresh installing. More work, better Mandrake. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 fresh install will always do some things urpmi upgrade cannot / does not do. urpmi won't ever install a completely newly created package that isn't required by a package you already have, for instance, and new drak tools often fall through this net. It also won't update configuration files you edit yourself, which can lead to new features not appearing, or (occasionally) problems with updated applications. urpmi upgrading generally does an excellent job, though, especially if you do it on a continual basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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