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:o ...wait...once wasn't enough... :o That's wild! In a terminal do; ps -A and make sure it is just nautilus running and that gnome-session is not. Kill either or both with the killall command. killall nautilus

yup...it's pretty sweet! ...finally, a clipboard that remembers!

The tarball wants 5 not 6 urpmf libstdc++.so.5 will tell you what pkg has libstdc++.so.5 Bad SIG and can't install? That's a new one for me. Use rpmdrake and tell it to ignore the Bad SIG and install anyway.

Windows starts uselessly using the swap long before all the ram has been used. Linux uses resources much more efficiently and won't result to the slower swap until it is necessary. Which btw it wouldn't be necessary, or less likely, if you were not using an emulator. They are hogs. Use gimp, unless of course you are doing web stuff, then I perfectly understand why you are using ps. Are you guys saying that kde does not have a sys monitor? Huh...Gnome does ;) ...oh looky there...gimp is only using 34mb

that sucks, though hardly anything to even consider leaving gnome over.....glad I use a ubuntu/debian and mandriva's gnome ;)

another with the japan2005 etheme btw...I just updated the 2 smooth engine schemes so reinstall them

GTK: Smooth_sharp_4_e17 download Smooth_sharp_4_e17.tar.gz E17: sharp get-e.org Icons: gperfection2 Screenshot>Smooth_sharp_4_e17

GTK: Smooth_blue-eyed_4_e17 download Smooth_blue-eyed_4_e17.tar.gz E17: blue-eyed get-e.org Eclair: gant get-e.org Icons: garGANTuan 1.6b Screenshot>Smooth_blue-eyed_4_e17

I haven't had any problems, well nautilus has quit 2 or 3 times, but that's normal for devel ...and you should read before posting :P

No, I don't...but I understand choice, and the freedom to express our opinion w/o people putting words in our mouths and twisting what we say just because they choose to push their own interpretaion on everyone else.

Umm, bvc, although you are right in some respect, imho you should not tell people that logging in as root is without risks and encourage them to use root as default account. If users are not well trained in system administration and handling of config files (and most users here are not Linux experts), they can really destroy their system with a few mouseclicks. YOU might know what you are doing and thus do not run into serious problems. But not everyone has your computer knowledge. ;) Users with little or no prior experience in Linux should (IMHO) never use the root gui if possible if they don't want to reinstall their system every now and then. Just my two cents. :) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I said no such thing Where'd di I say there was no risk? I said the opposite. Where did I encourage anyone? You people need to stop reading into what I really say. I did actually answer the question unlike others and gave choice where choice is due....to the owner of the box ;) also, like I said, I did it when I was a n00b and wasn't well trained in system administration and handling of config files. One just needs a little common sense, is all ;)

Yup, it so dangerous I've been doing it for 4+ years w/o prob ;) Technically yes, there's a security risk but that is the case anytime a human starts a manmade pc. You can disable the dm (display manager) at boot in mcc (mandrake control center) and tell the graphical interface to not be started at boot as well. That will give you a login prompt. Often /etc/inittab is ignored by most dm's if they are told to start in most distros. Once logged in just type startx. The default desktop specified in .dmrc will be loaded. If you want another de (desktop environment) or want to switch between de's edit .dmrc or install ...hmmm...ooops, it has been so long I don't remember its name. It's a console dm. Or make an .xinitrc in your home directory. Whatever is uncommented will run when you use startx from init 3 (console) #!/bin/bash nvidia-settings --load-config-only & enable_X11_numlock & #(sleep 1; xset s off s noblank dpms 0 0 0) & #exec /usr/bin/gnome-session exec /usr/bin/startkde #(sleep 9; gnome-terminal --hide-menubar --geometry 53x16+0+28) & #(sleep 7; /usr/bin/gnome-settings-daemon) & #exec /usr/bin/enlightenment to su to root type su <Enter> ...enter root password <Enter> to manually (as root) disable the dm use; chkconfig dm off again inttab will be ignored if there is nothing to start X to temp stop it (don't do it in X) service dm stop but it will run at next boot unless you disable it in mcc or with chkconfig

Mandriva has always had a prob letting go of a large swap. I've had this issue for years. I'm not sure about 'linux'/other distros because I've never had other distros eat all of my swap, for whatever reason/bug/whatever that Mandriva does. I know nothing of using lappy commands but I know of xset. SEE: man xset The following turns everything off; xset s off s noblank dpms 0 0 0 ..but this has been weird as well. X has to be running to be set and I've seen it hold after logging out of X, and not. If you find that acpi is the prob, you 'could' turn it off and go the apm route....but :unsure: Checkout the lsof command. Run it on your /tmp since it is a memory fs. I don't know if lsof will read a swap. lsof -p <pid> will show you all the files used by a process. I can tell you it has to do with the media you are doing because I rarely touch my swap, but if I play a dvd and check the swap it is about 1/4 used. This used to be worse sometimes 3/4 used. Weird.

:woops: that's my bad....I didn't notice that was 'Places' to the left and thought it was treeview. Nice to have so many diff ways for diff people :D

I guess that's why they call it browser? nautilus --browser ...ring any bells? :P That was my point...I like browser mode and use it more than spatial, yet keep the addybar and treeviw turned off until I need them, but if you have treeview on the left you don't need it on the top. So, instead of fixing the way treeview bounces around and is rarely in its properplace while browsing, they add this top thing. Cover bad code with more bad code

err.... a browser w/o an addressbar... :huh: ...that's brilliant Oh... well, good thing you can change it with gconf-editor What is the point of that I wonder? Heh, you got the treeview to the left, so why would you need another above? Sheds more light on why it has taken 4 years to get nautilus functional. Such wasted time on useless code!

see what I mean...xutils wasn't installed after I installed it I did apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-base it was reconfigured, w/o errors this time, and I'm in X.

Well, debian/ubuntu developers have repeated history. They have managed to break, and upload, a borked xorg and font system. Why do tey do everything else so well and are clueless with X? Upon upgrading half of X is missing and there seems to be some mix of the past and future. Links aren't updated, files aren't reconfigured. It's a disaster. I've managed to fix, I think, everything but one. The default font fixed isn't found. I've verified locations and edited the paths but somethng isn't right. Since I am dialup, I've spent a few days getting cairo cvs and e17 cvs ...and their deps requires stuff from breezy. Since I am dialup, I'd hate to start over again and would love to fix this. Since the ubuntu forums are down and I can't search there, I was hoping someone here would have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf from breezy they could post. Thx!

If they don't include mp3 there's no way they are going to include m4p. Apple uses that for iTunes ;) I use iTunes to convert those to m4a's (aac) and linux can play them. Better? A little. M4p's, before they are converted are far better than any other format! But a lot is lost in the conversion to aac.

I don't get the point either. Someone says ..shouldn't that say ??? hmm...that is impossible :deal: you mean you find its eyecandy more pleasing. Personally, I haven't found any. :unsure: :huh: ?That's like someone saying windows is stable, though I haven't tried linux Same thing...Windows is stable for me....I tried linux for a day but couldn't hang with 'change' There's good stuff! I mean really folks.....we know when you say....such_N_such is better....more stable....better eyecandy, it is just your opinion, so what is there to get offended over? Nothing. So we do not need statements like Please? Please what? I don't recall anyone saying either sucked. I thought the convo was rolling along rather smoothly actually. Personally, (note...I said 'personally')the only thing good about kde is it its API. That is what makes it really sad actually. That no one is taking advantage of what it can do. In the other camp. We have to hack and sweat, with the smallest of code, just to get it to look good. There has never been a Desktop War. Nope, never.... Supprised? Well, don't be.....there's just people that can't hang with people expressing their opinion. Funny...lets all be politically desktop correct....translation=lets uncivilly have a civil discussion. Which is another impossibility. You meet peole everyday that have 'their own' opinion....deal with it! So...go ahead...opinionate!

Oh look...it's E17's Emotion (video player through E's Eclair media player) playing a dvd! :P ...with a wallpaper I made with E source images. Won't it be nice when it is all integrated and running smoothly? Get-E!

E17-GTK Released

The default is to not let root login to X. You will have to use the; adduser command to add a user so that you can login to X as the user to get to the control center and allow root to login to X.

Thx guys! It just doesn't seem right using an engine based theme like clearlooks or smooth with eyecandy like E. I'm diggin it ...oh, and I just updated it again....gotta figure out these stupid tabs

Still not done...have no idea what I'm going to do with tabs but...I am excited that I figured out how to get rid of the ugly GtkFrames ...see in the notebook....no ugly square lines! E17-GTK download E17-GTK beta