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Ta, AJ! I'm at uni now, so i can't try it straight away, but I'll give it a go when I get home tonight, and see what happens. Actually, when I was doing a backup last night, I discovered I have both a .openoffice directory, and a .OpenOffice.org-1.1.3 directory. Do I really need both of these? When I moved to 10.1, I just did an upgrade, so it's possible that the .oo directory is just a remnant from the old 9.0 system. On another note, I'm kinda thinking I might do a fresh install anyway, because a number of packages I installed from source are now also available as RPMs, and having them in an easily updatable format would be much, much easier... many thanks! Alex @ checking to see if updatable is really a word :unsure: and also @ I dunno what means, but I like it!

Hi folks! Finally upgraded from 9.0 to 10.1 (thanks to the good folk at APC mag ;) ), and I was really impressed with the way everything runs, I didn't have any trouble with the transition at all. Until now, that is.... I have been slowly downloading all the updates on my dial-up connexion, like a happy boy Linux user, and that's been going fine. However, somewhere along the track OpenOffice.org (1.1.3) has fallen over. When I try to load it from the menu, it comes up with the 'Starting OpenOffice Writer' button in the task bar (in KDE), but then that disappears and nothing happens after that. If I try running it from Konsole as user, I get 'Aborted' (yup, that's all), and as root, 'OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 Installation failed'. I tried re-installing OOo, but to no avail. Does anyone know what could have caused my problems, and if there's any solution other than a full re-install? TIA Alex

AFAIK, kpackage doesn't play with urpmi at all. I think it is a front-end to rpm, but it doesn't do anything about dependencies other than tell you what they are, whereas urpmi finds all your dependencies for you, if you have everything set up correctly. If you use Gnome, gurpmi acts like urpmi in a GUI - solves deps, all that kind of stuff.

Nothing to do with security, but I always laugh when I'm writing a post in IE (I'm at uni, so I don't have a choice) adn I click one of the emoticons, and all the animation stops. Is this some devilish Linux trick, perhaps? While I'm only slightly off the topic, the uni I'm at used to have Netscape as its default browser, with IE buried in some menu, but for some mysterious reason , it doesn't anymore. Hmm.... :blink:

Can you tell us why you can't install it? Do you get any error messages?

Sorry I hadn't marked this off, but I found the solution - it was looking for the libraries in the wrong place. A little tinkering to point it in the right direction, and everything worked fine.

OK, I had a look on pbone and found the actual package - kdeadmin-kpackage-3.2-5mdk.i586.rpm. Try 'urpmi kdeadmin-kpackage' instead of what I told you before.

I was just looking at the list of packages in that link above, and I found there's an rpmdrake package. Do you know if you have it installed? If you don't, that might explain why you don't have the SSM and stuff. Type 'rpm -qa | grep rpmdrake' and post what comes up.

I'm sorry, that problem with the SSM and stuff has got me beat. All I can think of is either re-installing (which is not really an option) or just using the CLI and urpmi, as devries suggested. Just a guess, but your keyboard isn't set up for French or something like that, is it? If you type ` then e, do you get è (e grave)? In that case, you'll have to change your keyboard layout to US. If you're using KDE, go to Menu > Configuration > KDE > International (I think that's what it's called - I'm at uni now, so I can't check), and there should be a section there on keyboard layout and stuff. From memory, there are two US settings, International and something else, and you want the 'something else' one. You can find a listing of the packages in Mandrake 10OE Powerpack here. If you're using the Discovery version, just follow the Packages link on the bottom left. Hope this helps a bit

Have you tried looking for it with urpmi or in Mandrake Control Centre > Software > Installing software? Try 'urpmi kpackage' from the command line, if you can't find it in MCC (you'll have to set urpmi up first if you haven't already done so)

Yes, it's me again, but I'm not going off half-cocked like usual (I hope). I'm trying to compile kinput2 to work with the canna and FreeWnn servers, but the computer goes along fine, and then suddenly does this: gcc -o kinput2 -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=i586 -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce -L/usr/X11R6/lib kinput2.o ../lib/libKi2.a ../lib/imlib/libim.a -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lSM -lICE -lXpm -lXext -lX11 ../lib/libKi2.a(Canna.o): In function `InputEvent': Canna.o(.text+0x13a): undefined reference to `wcKanjiString' ../lib/libKi2.a(Canna.o): In function `displayPreEdit': Canna.o(.text+0x258): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' Canna.o(.text+0x26f): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' Canna.o(.text+0x287): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' ../lib/libKi2.a(Canna.o): In function `Destroy': Canna.o(.text+0x595): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' Canna.o(.text+0x5e2): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' ../lib/libKi2.a(Canna.o)(.text+0xf6e): more undefined references to `wcKanjiControl' follow ../lib/libKi2.a(Canna.o): In function `initializeCannaConnection': Canna.o(.text+0x1ead): undefined reference to `jrBeepFunc' Canna.o(.text+0x1ef4): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' Canna.o(.text+0x1f10): undefined reference to `wcKanjiControl' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [kinput2] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/kinput2-v3.1/cmd' make: *** [all] Error 2 Checking on Google only turned up some patches that I don't think apply (I'm still a newbie, so they might, though), but nothing concerning these actual error messages. I looked at the code of Canna.c, and when I eventually learn some programming I might be able to make some kinda sense of it :unsure: I'm using the most recent version of Kinput2, if that's relevant. What do the error messages I get mean exactly? Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix them? Also, can anyone help me identify what I should look for in a patch to fix this? Thanks Alex EDIT: I'm not sure if it's obvious to savants or not, but a document I found said that wcKanjiControl and so on are user interface library API's. Is this relevant at all?

OK, there's a reason that you shouldn't do stuff like this when you're tired. I search the web, and found that Imlib2 was actually nothing to do with canna, FreeWnn or kinput2 (Japanese stuff), which was what I really wanted. It was to do with Eterm, which I didn't really want. As it turns out, urpmi worked fine for Eterm - I apologise for not listening to you in the first place, devries. The moral of the story? When in doubt, check the Web before posting... P.S. I've got canna and FreeWnn (conversion servers) working ok, now all I need to do is figure out kinput2 (front-end)

You might be able to get to the Software Sources Manager through the Mandrake Control Centre - I think it's under the 'Software' tab? (I'm not sure, I can remember it when I see it though). anyway, there it should have Install Packages, Remove Packages and (hopefully) SSM. Otherwise, it looks like you may have to get down and dirty with the command line ;) EDIT: D'oh! Damn multitasking...

Well, that (symlinking) seems to have fixed that problem, but now I've got another one... Ugh, it's too late to worry about it tonight, so I'll give it another go tomorrow. Wish me luck! ;)

Thanks for the tips, devries, especially about the linking. I tried doing this with RPMs and urpmi, but since I'm running Mdk 9.0, I have a bit of trouble finding RPMs that fit (lots of them need glibc 2.3, and I'm stuck with glibc 2.2). I'll try leaving freetype as is and symlink the libraries, and post back. Thx

Phew, I'm hoping this isn't a really obvious question, but please be patient with me, i'm just a humble newbie. I'm trying to install a Japanese IME with instructions from the Linux from Scratch project, and as part of that I've got to put on Imlib2. When I start compiling it as per instructions, I get a message saying that it can't find 'libttf.so'. I discovered that there is a 'libttf.so.2', and that it's part of an older version of the freetype package. I've got a newer version of freetype, but I'm kinda worried about installing it in case it kills something else. OK, now to the questions... Firstly, is there some way of using the older libttf.so, instead of upgrading it? Secondly, is upgrading libttf.so and/or freetype likely to kill something else, and can I prevent this? Thx in advance, Alex EDIT: The version of freetype that's currently on my system is 2.1.9, and the new one is 2.2.5.

Again FWIW, I'm running KDE on my PC, and Gnome is a lot faster to load up (but slower to shut down, curiously). Echoing Priest, maybe Gnome, rather than KDE, is the way to go?

FWIW, I'm running Mandrake 9.0 on a 300Mhz machine, and I'm not having any trouble with it at all. Sure, it's not blindingly fast, but OOo (I think it's only 1.0.1) and Mozilla and so on all run fine. If you just did a very basic install with only the bare essentials, it should be ok even on an old box, shouldn't it? Then either create two users like fissy suggested, or restrict access (e.g. by removing icons, links, etc.) to settings. At least your users wouldn't be able to mess with anything in MCC without the root password.

I'm using a US Robotics Sportster (can't remember the exact details off-hand), and it works fine, without having to do anything :D I just plugged it in and off it went! It's rather old, though, so there's probably something better around now.

But what about the people who are interested in Linux, but not knowledgeable enough to know to take what MS says in those ads with a grain of salt. For example, I know nothing about servers, so what they're saying about MS servers being cheaper, easier to run, whatever might be true and it might be false, I wouldn't know. If it wasn't for this blatanly subversive site (Windows dodgy? Mind how you say that, partner!), I would never have known the awful truth... :o

Hi folks, I'm a budding Japanese translator, but I'm having some serious troubles getting a functioning Japanese IME on my Mandrake 9.0 system. I've tried installing the FreeWnn package that comes on the CD (it's the conversion server), and then the kinput2-wnn package (kinput2 is the front-end processor, in this case config'd to work with Wnn), but no dice. I found a tarball for Canna (server) and got it installed alright, but I can't get a kinput2-canna package that I can get to work under Mdk 9.0. They all need Glibc 2.3, but all I have is Glibc 2.2. In an ideal world, I'd be flush with cash and be able to splash out on a copy of Mdk10, or have a broadband connection and be able to d/l the OE ISOs, but alas... The one thing I have found is a number of binary RPMs for kinput2-canna for other distributions. What are the chances of getting those to work? Or, can I decompile them and recompile them for Mdk9? If anyone can help me to get kinput2 working with either canna or FreeWnn, or some other alternative, it would be greatly appreciated. TIA Alex

Not really a follow-up to your post, but as someone who's used Mdk, how did you find Slackware? (as in ease of use and stuff) I've been thinking of giving it a try, cos I can't find Mdk or src packages for a lot of things I've been trying to download, but everything Google turns up seems to be Slackware-related.

That's what I was meaning to say, but I didn't quite put it right... BTW, scoopy, does you avatar have a belly-button, or is my screen really dirty??

Once again, you're quite correct, bvc. I'm sorry for that omission. Heheh, you must have the world record for number of posts by a confessed newbie :)

I would slightly modify somedude's advice: look at the number of Tux's, but realise that this is not an infallible way of telling how good someone's advice is. I mean, I give excellent advice, and i only have one Tux! :P But seriously, the number of Tux's is just an indication of how much that user has posted, nothing more or less