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I don't get it :D that was good, now can you get that post to come up on a google search, so others can see this great, friendly /home

I ended up trying the dazzle in winxp, with ok video but no sound. A buddy sold me a tuner card,without any drivers (he lost the disc) and Mandy picked it up just fine(windows did not reconize it). So dazzle was a no go for me.

Isn't this site the meeting place of the cult??

Well just to let you know, I still didn't get mplayer to work (here at work) so I'm going back to Mandrake 9.2. I'm not that effeicent on linux anyways, but at least with mandy I have printed docs to help me out and this great site to help too. I'm just lucky to have a very cool IT guy that has allowed me to put any linux on my xp box. I'm still working on getting hime to try it, in fact I gave him my mandy discs, time to download new iso's....Hopefully before I leave here so I can get it up and running on my home box again tonight. Like BVC, I think it's up to the individual, some people have good luck, some bad. I didn't really have bad luck, I just prefer Mandrake and that more than just mplayer failing for me, is making me go back.

I also got my copy of SuSE here and at first glance I loved it. However, the fact that I haven't been able to get a dvd to play burns me up I have just found a tutorial on installing mplayer from source ( http://suselinuxsupport.de/ ) so I'll report back. (actualy this will be a good learning experience for me as I tend to stick with rpms). Yast is alright, I like the way it will tell you about conflicts but I agree it makes rpm installs a two step process if you click the rpm package. I havent tried to install a rpm from a terminal. so not sure if Yast comes up then.

Yes, If you watched the NFL (American Pro Football) Playoffs, they showed a IBM Linux commerical almost every break. Even my non linux using friends thought they were pretty good ads. Hopefully IBM will pony up the big bucks for a new one for the Super Bowl (NFL Campionship for the non sports people), now that would be great exposure as it's one of the most watched events each year. And I think it was CBS (network) that showed them the most and they cover the Super Bowl this year ( New England Patriots vs. Carolina Panthers Feb. 1, 2004- pregame to start about six hours too early :D )

Good read, this indeed could be a great year for the Linux OS, IF................

maybe the mods should ( or could?) put the libdvdcss rpm in the misc. downloads here, for those who still need it? AC, are you finding SuSE to be a decent ( I like it anyways) distro with no or little community support (except here :D ) So far I have, but as you said their forum only has around 300 people. I guess we could direct those 300 or so over here for all their questions :P but that would be mean

Yeah, but you know what your'e doing. I for one don't, I'll be honest. Yeah I want all five discs, and I'll take the DVD's too :D ( I know- they contain the same stuff) . Thanks again, I now have disc two and will burn shortly Off topic here, but this just place rocks. I just got a iomega zip drive at the house, mandy and suse saw it fine, I coulld mount, copy /paste, etc. Windows XP however, freaked out, so I did a google search, what I found was a bunch of Jerks telling people it was them or their pc, how that never happens, before someone actualy had something to add that helped. It looks like you need to install the drives BEFORE you install the drive (cart before the horse comes to mind) but I'll work on that tonight.

yeah youre right, what was I thinking

I was on the right track then, I didn't think it was for me, but I just didn't know what is was.

I have yet another question: what is Suse sparc? I saw the iso's for this @ linuxiso.org, it's the 8.2 release, but I have no idea what sparc is? It's five discs what ever it is. Anyways, I too installed only from disc 1, system runs fine, although I have no office software. I do have openoffice downloaded somewhere, so I can get around the disc 2 problem (soemwhat). Anyways, where are those knew iso's

Hey just to let eveyone know, I just burned the new iso and rebooted............it booted into the welcome screen, with options to install or boot to hardrive. I think this one is a winner!!! I'm at work, so I can't install here (unless my IT guy gives me the go ahead, but that would mean goodbye Mandy). Thanks everyone, now I can see what SUSE is really like, without a dial-up install.

pmpatrick, that's kind of how I feel. I haven't tried it either, but it looks like a good distro ( and I guess I'm just like a kid at christmas -I want it now lol

I have a couple of questions: 1. if you do a ftp install of suse how do you install any programs, lin mandrake it's easy and with yast (and the discs) I'm sure suse keeps it simple. But if you install from the net how do you do this? I'm a newbie so maybe it isn't a big deal. 2. Is it possible to do the ftp install, and then create an iso image? From what I've read it seems like suse is a very good OS, so I stop trying to get it for free and pony up some $$ for it?

I'm sad to say, mine is the same way. I couldn't get my system to boot into it, it acts like it's going to, but doesn't.

newbie question, is this a kind of alternative to wine?? (only for the old dos games)

Ok, I used the command mcedit ./configure and found this @ line 14582: s/^\\([_$as_cr_alnum]*_cv[_$as_cr_alum]*\\=\\(.*\\)/\\1=`\\2`/p" all of which means nothing to a newbie like me :unsure: So does any of this make sense to anyone? what do I need to change?

I'm trying to get winex to configure,so my daughter can play her games on linux and so I can finally get rid of windows . 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I didn't think so, Now I'm off to the basement to find my Quake discs, I may even load Q3 while I'm at it. Thats is, IF I find those discs

Now that just about everyone who wanted 9.2 probally has it and has played around with it, I was wondering which version of mandrake does everyone think is the best? 9.2? 9.1? 8.x? I still think of myself as a newbie, but As with any change is an OS I find things I like in the new and miss from the old. Right now I'm running 9.2, but I must say I think 9.1 may have been better, at least for me and that got me wondering what others here thought? No I don't care what version of Redhat-debian-Gentoo is better, what does everyone consider the best Mandrake release?

quick question: does plf have the pak0pak files or do I have to remember where i put that disc......... what about ground zero and the reconning? are they also available? Ahh the good old days of Q2. Still a fun fps game!

I agree, as a newbie to linux, I have found Mandrake very easy to use. I played with redhat for a while and considered a few others(even dwonload a few iso's). after reading the 8 points, I think I will stay with Mandrake, and I'm reconsidering about suporting mandrake, by either buying a version or joinging the club. Its good to see them embrace the "free" community that helps them with bugfixes and spreading the knowledge base of their product. Is it perfect, no not yet, but what OS is?

I hope you find a host for these iso's. I would like to try SuSE, but I'm on dial up at the house, I can Download the iso's at work :D however and burn them :D . canI download SuSE (entire directory) on a windows machine and burn all to cds? then install?? I could do that, but a ftp install on dial up would take me into the mandy 10.0 relaease or SuSE 9.1 release

I like that answer