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rcxau: Its 812 packages so at one per line its quite long to post: I could email or perhaps add to files ????

I don't mind paying ... if I get a good product but I really don't wanna use ANY M$ stuff, even Wine'ed if I can really help it .... OO seems to screw with my coding and mix up the rel/abs links but I might not be using it correctly. What I wanted was for them to be able to edit the pages, maybe stick photo's from live music we have and make translations ... Ill check a couple out... Just a guess, The IBM is likely to be heavyweight, have a 'funny interface' but be stable ... :D

Its a single 9.1 install from the front of a French Linux mag called login: the colon is part of the name

Sorry a bit late but I have the CD. It came with a French mag but you can install in English Basically a cut down single Cd install. If your interested Ill mail the package list.

Well see what i do... I figure ill take the serial out at the bios and reinstall. Don't know about the extra 1/2GB though.... it worked in Enterprose kernel before.... edits Well, thats it. Reinstall with noacpi and serial ports disabled in bios. Works, automatically put enterprise kernel Im trying from it now.... Sorry I chickened out of fixing it ... as pointed out ... demands :wink:

I'm off home to install and try it :-) Once i get my damned 9.1 up again :-(

Well, for exactly the same reasons as aRtee. I met a guy on the station who develops for Gnome... I was doing some work on my laptop and he just came over and started talking to me. I guess i'd meet some plf stars if I got off my fat ass. I'm all for them, theyre pretty well reported in the local press so i should bite the bit and do it. Its just having 4 conversations at once in French really gets hard ... Years and years ago I was in a computer user group, well my father was and I got to go for the ride. Really good memories of hacking away at the BBC ... the upmarket 32kb mem model.. Ahhh the nostagia.....

Actually thats what Im using right now. Its a bit heavy on the old Celeron 566 but I set up shortcuts to the files they edit direct in /var/www/html... Also, I might not be using it right but it gets terribly confused over relative and absolute addresses.

OK, I need a idiot proof WYSIWIG type web creation in linux. Ive tried Bluefish and quanta but they are to advanced for the people i need to use them. The closest is Mozilla composer .... which is sad., The people I need to use it are translaters and my bar manager so it shouldn't be too technical.

First LOL.... Yeah, it appears its getting it from somewhere .... I guess I could trace it from my sme-server but that just satisfied the curiosity not WHY. I suspect its from my DSL modem at the other side ?? or the ISP. ?? I tried from my laptop from static IP to DHCP and its working faultlessly (9.0) ....Same switch and evrything ... I suscepted the cable so swapped em over and same thing .... I tried netconf too. Still same thing... Its annoying the hell outa me I got past that last night and started editing the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts by hand. The thing is even with a static IP it won't ping the laptop or the gateway. Ive done the whole static IP. Then manually route add default gw stuff. but it won't ping or be pinged....its like its on a different network.... I might reinstall-it would be quicker but it looks like something worth looking into for 9.2 :wink:

A small furry animal. Near to extinction now through over hunting the Deekop is a member of the Gazelle family which inhabits the wilder parts of my brain. It lives in the mountains and had two legs shorter than the others .. When hunting the idea is to get it facing the wrong way since it can only run in one direction as its legs are shorter... tyme: have you read hunting of the snark?? Lewis Carol

assuming the file is a text file ... as tyme has confirmed Open a text editor.... really vi is the best cos it won't put in any options but gedit will do for now. Then enter the line where your told to. If you need to add it to the end you can do it another way... cat whatevertextyouwant >>nameoffile I suggest you try this on a useless text file first.... to see the effect. You can also make another text file in an editor, lets call it myfile then you can copy cp filetoappendto myfile filetoappendto

What you need is a script to test if the connection is already up. I'm not at my linux PC right now ... the start/stop are adsl-start and adsl-stop I think theres an adsl-status you can choose to test if its up or down. Personally Id copy the test part of say ifup which tests if the interface is up and stick it into a seperate script. That way you get one button which will start it if its stopped and stop it if its started. Most of the time I wanna start/stop i just do it from the CLI.

Ive noticed a lot of Mandy rpm's try and set up things like squid to run as root. Quite a few actually disable themself if you try to run as root .... Running a firewall, proxy etc as root is kinda a moronic kinda WinBlows hack ... Check which user they are running as and also the ownership of the files. If you make like uninstall (but don't) and get all the files from pressing maximum info you can check permissions on each directory... Ive had to do this with quite a few servers...

Hey Ixthusdan, you never said you wrote country music songs in your spare time .... Seriously now: I went back to my shuttle the night before last and decided to INSALL (not upgrade) from 9.0-9.1. After a serious amount of backing up, I did a clean install. Now I'm willing to give this machine is a little strange... Its a Shuttle (model ??) anyway, the athalon version. (For those interested by Duron 1300/256Mhz has been installed with sme-server. All my backups are on a SCSI disk, currently not connected to it ! ) Anyway, graphics is a linux friendly MGA400 and the internal SIS VGA is turned off. Can't completely turn off the power management since its a fanlass processor ... its got liquid cooling run from the PSU. It was working great in 9.0, albeit without USB2 ... So I chucked an extra half gig in to 1GB (forcing the enterprise kernel) and also a TV card, generic bt8?8 ... Also a creative infrared-serial Ahhh, 1st install problem - couldn't load Mandrake_installer***.rpm. OK tried again, cleaned the CD off and now the graphics just crashes when it tries the graphical installer. So several attempts at text install, reformat partitions every time . It hangs every time before the boot loader is installed but I wasn't to be detered. Boot up in rescue, write a lilo.conf by hand, run lilo. reboot ... OK so now it boots ... runs X etc. so I decided to put in the proper kernel since Im only seing 848MB. Great ... it all works with kernel enterprise afted adding an entry in lilo.conf. Only ... Network will start with a static IP, the lights are on ... but it can't see anything else on the local subnet. For a short time it did, the first night but last night it just refused completely ... if I set it to DHCP it gets an IP address from outside my subnet, Ive no idea where from..... not only that it aliases it to eth0:9 I tried uninstalling tmdns and using dhcpd instead but if I sh -x ifup eth0 ..... its still trying to use tmdns. I guess I could try a reinstall.... I think its a conflict with the serial ports and network card ... at least it was running without serial ports last time in 9.0 but I wanted to use lirc with the creative IR. Anyone got any ideas BEFORE I give up and reinstall and lose your wife, your kids, your dog, and your car/truck

Basically the RFC addresses 10.0.0.0, 172.0.0.0 and 192.0.0.0 are not forwarded by the internet routers. You are therefore free to use these at home...becuase they can't be tranmitted through the internet. When you connect you either have an IP already or your allocated one. This is a real IP address. NAT takes your internal address and translates it seamlessly to the second one. Here's something to try... Open your favorite browser at your favourite sire hint ... http://www.mandrakeusers.org/ Open a seperate window ... and point is somewhere else ... google will do. Now think ... How does it know which window requested google?? You'd expect it to get confused and display google in the last window active or something :wink: Its magic, browser A requests data and gets it from mdk users and at the same time browser B gets it from google..... How does it work ??? Go figure .. (If you really want Ill explain but I have a feeling you wanna work it out for yourself .. its truly beautiful in its implicity) OK: Now you understand NAT too. It stores the internal IP and tracks the packets going out but uses the public IP for all your computers.... When it gets them back it routes the packets to the instance of the browser on the PC that requested it..... Is that COOL or what... [/url]

Seriously, One firewall should be plenty. You can block any port by protocol and run NAT.... Without the beast that is ActiveX you can choose exactly what is and what is not seen and modifiable/runable. Having two firewalls is just likely to be confusing ... ie. port 21 might be blocked by one, not the other ... if your also running a proxy server and remapping port 21 then thats likely to be confusing... In reality Do you want ftp? No .... turn it off Yes ... Do you want it within your internal network ... Allow port 21 for your internal zone Do you want it to the internet.... Allow port 21 from your internal to internet zones Do you want it from the internet .... etc. etc. Firewalls are enough problems to configure without having 2....

On my way home .... Will be on the firewall in 35-45 minutes if anything doesn't work :-)

Wellit offers to do it but I haven't actually tried it :-)

Thats more or less what Im saying ... they need to make a decision on retail packs which should work OR FLOSS releases. Combining the two isn't working..... Its not just the cycle time, its the quality of the product as shipped. If they want to sell mainstream then the product really should work from the box. The installer bug was critical to me. I know lots of others didn't have the problem but quite a few did. The endless loop thing could have wrekced my CPU .... the problem is the thing hangs onm install so you think hey Ill be patient, go off and make food/drinks then i hear this stange siren noise..... It was the CPU temp warning.... THis is a difference for me ... like tyme points out they stuck to the .0,.1.2.0 cycle so this isn't any different but I think they would be better working on a bug free 9.2 rather than adding new features with new bugs. This is just my opinion as a consumer ... although perhaps also profesional experience from software companies who can't wait to release the new buggy version with different bugs ... I found 8.2 very stable - however although I bought it I actually used a DVD from a mag to install it. Mandrake has copies of 9.1 WITH BUG FIXES.... I don't know if these are what you gave your friends but I can guarantee they aren't what was in my box set. I just invested another 10Euros in two more copies of 9.1 from the magazine ... to save me making backup copies.... I haven't tried the download version, maybe that is the updated version too.... Again: Is anyone running the Powerpack boxset bought retail not mail order without updating it ??? What I do know is the version I got off the shelf at FNAC wouldn't install and even the physical CD's themselves are crap.

Or shorewall - My Way. Actually this is shorewall the shorewall way ... 1) Make sure you have webmin and its working ... 2) Stop shorewall with shorewall clear 3) Make sure you can access the internet from the PC you will be using as the firewall. If this doesn't work then it won't work with shorewall running either. 4) Work out which type of configuration you will use ... http://www.shorewall.net/ you need to work out according to the pictures in the quickstart guides. 5) Download the relevant quickstart guide .... follow the links as you read the documentation..... 6) Copy their sample config files over, you can save your mdk ones if you really want ... I did but never went back !!! 7) Thats worked for me ... Nothing clever .. I just followed the instructions .. 8) Now you can add anything fancy like allowing NFS from your other PC's to your firewall etc... I just used WEBMIN !!!

That looks wrong ... First off is in not Heimdaal not heimdall ... Just from my Scandanavian spelling the former seems more likely but then so does hjemdaal Anyway, two firewalls is one to many... Shorewall does other stuff apart from being a firewall so be carefull. Also unless you have got your head round the config files from Mandrake I found the shorewall ones from their website much easier. You might have activated the other firewall accidentally in Webmin ... I know I was messing with it and it said 'hey you got shorewall, you don't really wanna do this' Anyway, once I stuck the shorewall config files and read their quickstart guide 5 mins it all made sense. I guess now I understand it I'd understand the Mdk config but I haven't the patience.

Erm instead of a new post ill edit the one I left before going to work.

Now I have broadband its working great :-) What Im saying is even though they know they are selling a product with 300MB of updates they continue to sell it when they could have a update CD given out at the cash desk. (edit: it costs about a cent per commercial CD and they could ship with the box sets, they sell a prodcut they know is flawed and can in some circumstances result in loss of data/damage to hardware) What tyme is doing is good, no criticis but its what Mandrake should be doing. If they can't handle the mail stuff then as a minimum it wouldn't hurt to give a whole set to the department stores retailing Mandrake and give it out when someone buys it. To be honest I don't know what would happen to Mandrake's image pos or neg if they did this, probably it would balance out but it is the responsible thing to do. (edit: Ive now thought about this.. see below) Ive paid for retail copies since 8.1 and now Im faced with what to do for 9.2..... download or buy. Everyone who thinks this is harsh ... try living without ANY internet for a few weeks and the official box set. In fact I'd be surprised if anyone who actually says this is harsh is running 9.1 without the internet at all. Dont forget we are biased here, everyone has some form of internet or they wouldn't be here! (edit mtweidman: you still have some form) edit: Those that have internet at work/uni fall into 2 categories... Those who have full access, can burn CD's etc and those like me who's only method of transferring things out is a 1.44 MB floppy, not to mention officially I have no ftp access ! A few of those updates can be critical, the RPMDRAKE and the installer are I think core for any installation. I don't really think my hardware is that exotic, but it hung the installer. When the installer hangs it just runs the CPU continually at 100% - (this resulted in my temperature alarm going off for the first time EVER) If Mandrake thought about it they could issue a update CD with something like the new Gnome as a bonus, that way it wouldn't hurt their image too much. what I'm trying to say is if they are going to sell retail in consumer shops the 300MB updates are not an option. If you download your 3CD's and then need the updates, that is a different story... you can obviously download ISO's so applying the bug fixes is no big deal. To me their version strategy is: 1 Sell product make money 2 Fix bugs and develop new version 3 Let users with Internet access download bug fixes 4 Forget about anyone without internet 5 Sell new version along with bugs ... 6 back to 1 They have no concept it would seem that people buying a retail product in a music store may not have access to the internet. To me it is two different products... before and after the update ... the crazy thing is they don't make any further money out of the updates, its not to make money off us (except your referred to Mandrake Expert/Club) its just that they can't be bothered with their customers. Basically I think they need to make a decision: Are they a mass market OS/distro providor selling in bulk through retail stores or are they a niche geek distro where you expect to have lots of downloads/fixes and rely on 3rd party User Boards for support. If theyu choose the latter they need to be more responsive to their geeky customers .. if they choose the former then they need to sell a solid product that doesn't need a second PC or windows dual boot with working internet. Personally: I don't mind which but they need to make up their mind. I wouldn't have bought the boxset if they had actually written on it '300MB of updates on the internet, some ofthem critical' Why? I was happy with my 8.2 and 9.0 installs. I've seen no indications for the new boxsets, do they contain the updates or not? I don't think so. Even more annoying is when I got my 5$ Mag CD's they were updated and the Installer fixed.... Don't get me wrong ... my urmpi'd/updated 9.1 is brilliant... lots of good work by their technical guys but this sort of decsision isn't being made by the technical guys .... perhaps why so many high profile ones have left recently ....

I think the product with the updates is excellent, but try even looking for a support email etc. on the Mandrake site. Somehow they changed their business model. I know they are going through difficult times but they have the HP deal etc. but 300MB of updates is practically a new release. I can forgive them for releasing a bit earliy,under the circumstances but they don't seem to be doing anything to support anyone who bought the product. When I didn't have an internet connection it was all but useless until I got an updated version from a magazine. I lost a disk to a faulty installer ... etc etc etc. I have no problem with people/companies making mistakes but the first thing they should do is try and correct the mistake. Given the number of updates etc. they could at least provide a free update CD with every new purchase if they can't afford to recall the faulty product, just hand it over at the cash desk or something. It might sound a bit strong but they are hurting more than themselves by this. They are probably hoping for as many people to buy it as possible and don't care if they can use it or not. When you have 300MB of updates and part of the faulty product is the actual installer and RPMDRAKE a warning on the box <<Internet required for updates>> or such. i also take issue with the silent withdrawal of starOffice, the advertising on th3e box which is plainly false and most of all .. Includes Support. My media were damaged...still are according to my box I get 1 access by telephone, 60 days by web. My telephone call about the faulty media ... <use the web>. that was the support call used up. Tried by email and the answer join Mandrake Club. Its fault media!!! What are they going to do at Mandrake club except take my money and since I don't have an internet connection Im stuffed. They just couldn't care less. Since I live in france Mandrake is popular but I'm getting tired of explaining to Win converts that they were just unlucky with this version and should download 300MB of updates if they can get the installer working, if not Ill lend you my Cd's from the front of a Magazine.