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Anyone care to comment on the benefits, detriments, and/or differences between Ubuntu and MDK2005LE? I finally have MDK the way I want it and Ubuntu just sent me some fresh CD's. I only have one computer to use for linux experimentation...my laptop. I'm itching to try Ubuntu. I just hope getting my ATI card working isn't any harder than what I learned with MDK. WoMBaT

I sure do like that clock thingy...OH YEAH!, my wife said my Ubuntu just came in the mail Too bad I'm stuck in Louisiana and not at home this month... Well, it will give me something to play with over the holiday. I've just got MDK2005LE the way I like it...now I'm gonna scrap it all and try Ubuntu. Hopefully, I don't regret it. Maybe I'll start a new thread somewhere on the differences between the two before I make the switch. WoMBaT P.S. Missed the word "wife" in the first iteration of this post...must have been a freudian slip.

That keeps sound working; but this damn game STILL locks up soon after running. The sound chip is an AC'97 Realtek ALC650. It is using the intel8x0 by default. None of the logs have anything that looks related to the lockup because it is a TOTAL lock up. Nothing responds except the power button. I erased the contents of several logs; restarted the computer; started the game; locked up; and rebooted and looked at the logs...nothing that looks suspicious. Next? WoMBaT

I'm totally FUBAR now. I've tried so much stuff I can't remember what's what. I disabled the sound service in MCC, closed the panel volume control after turning off system sounds and event sounds. Rebooted and loaded Neverwinter Nights. Turned all sound down to zero and played for a LONG time with no lockup!! Re-enabled the sound service and then turned up the sound in the game. No sound still (weird). Did a reboot, started the game and after about 15 minutes it locked up! So, DEFINITELY a sound issue; I think. Now what do I do to isolate it and fix it? Come guys and gals help me out.

I wonder if this has something to do with my laptop locking up totally after OpenGL gets going real good in a 3d Game. The lockup only happens during a graphic intensive process. WoMBaT

Thank you :) spinynorman. I did change the mouse to psaux in the xorg.conf and still have the lockup. I will try the adapter and see if that is the solution tonight. Also, how do you look at the logs and where are they located. Is there any specific log I should be looking at and anything specific in it? WoMBaT ( I'm such a noob...)

It still locks up. :( What can I do or where can I look to find out WHAT is causing the lockup specifically? WoMBaT

I turned off HT and still the computer locks up. What can I check or do to see what is causing the lockup. I have pretty much eliminated sound and HT, which leaves OpenGL I would think. That seems fine, though because OpenGL screensavers with work all night long with no lockups. Anyone know where and what to check to see what causes a COMPLETE lockup? There is no option except to hold the power button for 4 or more seconds and shut the machine down. WoMBaT

Unfortunately I don't. I've found some help on the web with Google last night, but have not been able to try anything yet today. WoMBaT

Yes, I am running in HT mode. Can I disable it in BIOS without messing anything up? I know that with Windoze there is a possiblity of having to re-install if you disable HT after installing with it running (at least that is what I read once...never tried it). Also, after some research I think it could be fast writes. How can one disable fast writes with Linux? I have no option in the BIOS. WoMBaT

And fglrxinfo: [daniel@mondo ~]$ fglrxinfo Loading required GL library /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 display: :0.0 screen: 0 OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600 Generic OpenGL version string: 1.3.5140 (X4.3.0-8.14.13)

Here is glxinfo output: [daniel@mondo ~]$ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Loading required GL library /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: ATI client glx version string: 1.3 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_multisample OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON 9600 Generic OpenGL version string: 1.3.5140 (X4.3.0-8.14.13) OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array, GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow, GL_ARB_fragment_shader, GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_occlusion_query, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shader_objects, GL_ARB_shading_language_100, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_vertex_shader, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array, GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer, GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_ATI_vertex_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_streams, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATIX_texture_env_route, GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_mirror_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_shader, GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_occlusion_query, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x23 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x24 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x25 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x26 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x27 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x28 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x29 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x2a 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x2b 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2c 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2d 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2e 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 16 16 16 16 1 0 None 0x2f 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x30 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x31 24 dc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None 0x32 24 dc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 24 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 None

I got farther into the game. It at least loaded and the adventure began. Something else is going on. I'm going to try and post my glxinfo and fglrxinfo output. Maybe some of you smart people can spot something I'm missing. I had sound disabled (or so I thougt) and still Neverwinter Nights had sound.??? I guess I did it wrong. How do you totally disable sound with Gnome? WoMBaT

Well I'm trying something out. This P4 in the laptop seemed to be getting awful hot, and I remembered that lock ups with Windoze could be attributed to excessive heat. So I opened this baby up and checked it out. There was thermal paste AND a thermal pad on the heatsink!!!!! Can you believe it? So I removed them both and cleaned it up and put on some Artic Silver. Well, there is less heat coming out of the heatsink vent so we will see. I am going to fire up ET or Neverwinter Nights and see if it locks up. All of the lock ups happened with the fan blowing full blast (thus my heat theory). WoMBaT

Hello all, This is a combination/repost of several others about my lockups. I think I have it narrowed down to the graphics card and OpenGL with my ATI. My computer locks completely up after a few minutes of OpenGL rendering. I had this orginally posted in the Games section because it was only happening I thought while trying to play Enemy Territory. However, I have since found out that the lockup happens even when I run fgl_glxgears. Here is what I have tried so far: With flgrxconfig I have selected Yes to "use dga", No and Yes to "use external agp" and No and Yes to "sync frame buffer to refresh", No and Yes to "locked user pages". The only thing that appeared to make a difference was the "sync to refresh". Of course that reduced all frame rates to 60 instead of the 400-500 I was getting. This only prolonged the time it took to lock up. I have disabled all sound drivers / daemons / etc so it is not a sound issue I don't think. What can I do to stop these lockups? Has anyone experienced similar? What else can I attempt to do to troubleshoot and isolate the issue? WoMBaT

Okay, I tried it without sound. Still locks up. Other things lock up too. Sometimes the computer locks up just surfing the web. It usually happens when I am using my usb optical mouse (which is always, of course). For instance, I will have only firefox running and I will move the mouse and BAM...it locks up. Can a input device lock up the computer somehow? The mouse is using a generic usb/ps2 driver. Advice? WoMBaT

I will try and disable the ati driver. But, I am very wary of doing that. It took forever just to get it installed and working correctly. I am using Gnome not KDE. How do you TOTALLY disable the sound temporarily in the OS?

I have Enemy Territory installed and it runs great...but only for twenty minutes or so then it locks the computer completely up. Nothing will unlock it except a reboot. Has anyone else had this happen in ET or any other game? Does anyone know what causes this? I have OpenGL installed, working fine and running using Hardware rendering (not software Mesa) with decent frame rates. I have read on other forums that sometimes people's machine will lock up with excessive logging. I don't give a rats ass about logging ANYTHING and wish I could make it so the OS didn't keep track of anything with logs. Sooner or later I will figure out how to disable SYSLOG. Does anyone think maybe this logging (of something) is causing the lockup? How could I check? Anyhoo...If anyone has some input, please feel free to enlighten me. WoMBaT

Installing Clearlooks engine worked. Are the ish items not actual themes, but just individual settings on the three tabs inside "theme details"? That is how it is on my system. Nothing Ish shows up under the main theme window. I have to select a theme and then use the Ish choices to change that theme, then save it as a custom theme. Is that how it is supposed to be? Works great though, and I do like them. Thank you bvc. WoMBaT

Well, It is definitely something with my computer. I downloaded the new one and extracted it to the ./themes directory and still nothing. I must not have something right. I will be honest, I don't even know what the clearlooks / metacity stuff is about. I don't know which is loaded or how to find out. Maybe that has something to do with it. I did download a ASH theme and it worked fine. I am using it now. How could I check to find out what is not right with my themes? WoMBaT

bvc, I got 26678-ish.tar.gz from Gnome-looks.org. I extracted the file to ~/.themes; but they still don't show up. I restarted my laptop thinking maybe gnome needed to be restarted for them to show up; but still they do not show up in the System-Configuration-gnome-themes appelet. I tried dragging the tar to install it; but to no avail either. What am I doing wrong here? The folders for each of the themes is in the ~/.themes directory. WoMBaT

thank you for answering my question, yochenhsieh.

No I just like the separation between the title bar and the menu bar. I really wish ALL bars were just on one single bar. I do like the ish-smooth and ish-clearlooks, though :D

In what directory is the Gnome splash screen in MDK LE 2005 located? I want to make it grayscale instead of blue. WoMBaT

I believe the lastest stable version is 2.10...but if you are using Mandriva LE 2005, good luck. I can't get it installed correctly to run. It comes DANGEROUSLY close to crashing my system every time I try (i've tried 3 times). WoMBaT