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Way to go! Glad you got it beat! :)

If you mean the ones for Mandrake Update, etc. then in GUI you can do it from CONFIGURATION--PACKAGING--SOFTWARE SOURCES MANAGER. Use the Easy URPMI site anon gave above to help you. I keep several ftp sites in my list, and then all I have to do is disable/enable to setup the ones I want to use. (use the check boxes to disable/enable them) If you REMOVE/DELETE the main update source, the next time you try Mandrake Update, it will ask to download a list of mirrors and ask you to choose one. That method works ok too. I just found it faster to have a few choices as I mentioned above. From urpmi.removemedia and urpmi.addmedia you can do the same things. The man pages have the details... Does that answer your question, or did I misunderstand it?

See if this link helps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ar...2003/01/4/23949 Looks like others have had similar problem. EDIT: Here's another... pointing to APM APCI issues: ttp://www.madisonlinux.org/pipermail/madlug/2003-August/006728.html

I think the deal is permissions. I use $ halt -n as user. On my mandrake 9.1 setup shutdown is in /sbin/shutdown so it is root only halt is /usr/sbin/halt so any user can access it. (also in /sbin/halt of course) I can user powerdown as user, but it is longer to type the command! :lol: Guess you can change permissions, link it or make an alias, but I like the short 4 letter version! :wink: Oops! You posted a few seconds before me so I didn't get the info that halt didn't help. When I first built this box I had a memory card issue that caused that same behaviour. Is this a new machine? Could that be the problem?

I was pretty shakey the first time or two I updated a kernel. But if you follow the link I gave you above, it is really easy. You just need to be cautious and comfortable on the cli. The kernel that had a security problem (.24mdk) was pulled from the download sites. I am running 2.4.21-0.25mdk which is the latest. The original is .13mdk and it is fine to run too. There are some features in the new kernel that help some newer hardware and tighten security, but most of us don't need em. Me, I just like to tweak! Enjoy the updating! :)

Steve Scrimpshire wrote: And I say AMEN! Sorry, I should have been clearer instead of just referring to other posts... If you want to upgrade the kernel try this link, it works great! http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/kernelupdate.php For XFree86 update here's my earlier post: http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=7864 I like to download to hd via ftp, then copy files to a directory I use for installs. I then use a CD of the updates for a source to update my other machines. On low bandwidth connection this method pays off big for reinstalls and sharing with other users. I keep my /home/kelly/updates directory synched to a mdk updates mirror. It is fine to install kernel-docs and kernel-source via the Mdk Update, but please do not try to install the kernel that way! Steve is correct! :)

I would suggest that you start with updating anything to do with draktools (i.e. has 'drak' in the name) and urpmi/gurpmi/rpmdrake as they had some bugs initially and you will be more stable once those basic tools are updated. After that, I'd pick a few packages at a time rather than a whole bunch. That way if you run into any dependency things you won't be trying to do too much at one time. I'd leave the kernel and XFree86 patches until the end and follow the instructions in other posts on updating those. It should work well. I updated my second machine via a cd using this approach. Enjoy !

I'd add one more thing to Ixthusdan's list: 5) Older CD ROM that doesn't read CD's burned by newer / high speed burners. My older desktop, Acer Aspire 5000e PII/233, took 5 tries to get the files to read properly. I did a minimal text install and barely could get the files to install w/o errors. I finally figured out it was the reader having problems reading the CD. After swapping in another cd rom, it worked flawlessly. So... if your cd-rom is say 5 yrs old, it might be suspect too!

Dialup can be a pain when you need a HUGE pile of updates! Sure relate to the frustration of the learning curve when you add in slow connection. To avoid the delays and hassle of long downloads, I use a cd service in SE Asia but I have not used one in USA. May I suggest that you either find someone with broadband to burn you a CD of the updates/patches or buy one from a service. Here's one I found that sells the 9.1 update CD Rom http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/c...dtl/product/155 For $1.50 you can update from the CD and avoid the internet traffic jam and not tie up your phone for HOURS downloading. We can help you setup your mdk update to use the cd to update rather than internet connection. That part is relatively easy. There are several options if you google with keywords: linux cdrom cheap you can browse and find one. This one even sells Mdk 9.2 rc2 so it is very up to date! In the meantime, you can always boot with CD1 and do some rescue things. Better yet, get Knoppix CD and it will boot and let you work on probems too. I don't rely on floppy boot rescue much anymore.

Desktop 1: Abit KR7A133 non-RAID mobo Athlon 1600XP 512 MB Crucial DDR2100 40 GB Maxtor 7200rpm UDMA 133 SB Live 5.1 Asus V3800 TNT2 32 MB video card Viewsonic E53 monitor Linksys LTE100TX nic Logitech keyboard/optical mouse Wingman Extreme joystick :lol: Desktop 2: Acer Aspire 5000e (7+ yrs old) P II / 233 192MB RAM LG Studioworks monitor 3-Com Nic sound and modem not working yet dual boot ML 9.1 and Win 95c Laptop 1: Toshiba Satellite 2850-S402 PIII/850 -- 384MB RAM--Nvidia GForce 16mb Dual boot WinME ML 9.1 Laptop 2: Basket case experiment--bad floppy, and LCD out/used external monitor and text mode install :-) Compaq Presario 1260 (AMD K6-2@333) 192MB RAM Dual boot ML 9.0 Win 98

8) I love Mandrake! I decided to be a true Mandrake kind of guy, so instead of using rpm I did the XFree86 update using urpmi on the files I downloaded. (after all, it is smarter than plain ole rpm, right?) In case someone else needs to do this, here's what worked for me. 1) Downloaded all the XFree86 rpm's from the Mdk mirror using gftp into a new file folder by themselves. 2) Logged out of X and into text mode. 3) exit as user and logged in as root 4) cd to the folder with the rpms /home/kelly/downloads/x 5) Tested it with urpmi first: {thanks to the "man:man master aru" for teaching me this trick!} [root@localhost x]# urpmi --test -v *.rpm 6) test indicated it would install properly 7) then ran urpmi w/o the --test option to install the upgrade [root@localhost x]# urpmi -v *.rpm I like to watch the verbose mode do its thing! 8) 8 ) exit as root and logged back in as user, started x and TA-TAH! :) So far so good, not necessary to reinstall Nvidia at all and everything seems to work just fine. HTH someone else.

Thanks to all for inputs and shared experiences! Think I'll go the cli route and do a rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm to see how it goes before I do the real deal. My internet connection is too slow and unreliable for me to think I can download all those big files and patch it without a glitch. I'd hate to get halfway through and have it stall. I have all the files now so after church I'll backup and let it rip. Fun! I'll report on results later.

<BUMP> I tend to agree with Bob Guy. Before I take the plunge, any words of advice from someone that's already applied the patch? :?:

Haven't updated XFree86 in past, but now there is a security update... 1) Can X be updated from the GUI / mdk update, or do you need to do it from cli? 2) Nvidia drivers will need reinstalled ? right? or is the version change minor enough to allow it to work? (4.3.x to 4.3.x?) Interesting way to break the boredom of a clean running 9.1 config, eh? :lol:

Nikki, I saw a report on this and modem success is 50-50... some can get it going, some cannot. Take a look at this page and see if it helps: http://www.freedos.org/jhall/tp-a30/ There are others running R30 but not all report on the modem issue and most recommend using a PCMCIA modem card to skip the hassle. HTH a bit.

Chris z, Here's a couple links that really helped me learn about urpmi: http://speculation.org/garrick/urpmifaq.txt http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jwrobinson/docs...owto/index.html For adding sources use easy urpmi: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/urpmiweb.php For me, I ended up printing out the man pages for urpmi that I used frequently as it was easier to follow them in written form than read onscreen. I guess it is a generation thing! For some other basic linux things I like: http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/ The other thing I would suggest you read is the DOCS at the top of the MUsB webpage. It links to a great set of instructions on using Mandrake. Don't be put off by the fact it is mostly for old versions. Tom Berger did an outstanding job of creating some very clear instructions to help us newbies figure out how to do things. Also our FAQ's have some instructions on using RPM and command line for installing software. HTH

Steve, Sorry, I got sidetracked and haven't tried yahoopops yet. Hope Joe Noob can provide some info... Seems like there is another tool or two that can do this. I also found one for Hotmail and Kmail using a perl script. Might be able to do same thing for yahoo mail but I'm no programmer so not much help on that. http://en.vosberg.be/doc/kde/kmail_gotmail.shtml If I get a chance later I'll try to get yahoopops going and let you know. Edit: two more options: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywebmail/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/webmailsucker/

I am on my way out to church but try this: Open Mdk Control Center Go to Security section Under Basic tab raise your level to High Under Network Options tab check NO on ICMP packets (2 choices) It might help to log STRANGE PACKETS check yes to enable it and then you can see where they come from. If your log gets too big shut it back down. Hope this helps. I'll check back in after church and see how things went. :)

Might see if you can shut off ping response from your box too. Depending on your firewall there how you do it. In mdk control center if you are using it, poke around until you find it. I blocked mine at the router and so I don't get bothered now. You might have some runaway Windows machines on the same cable node with you. They will scan for any open port they can find. My ISP is blocking people too and asked everyone to turn on machines last wed. They scanned everyone and somehow could tell if people were running latest Windows patches or not. Unpatched users got blocked and given instructions to use dialup and patch before they could be reactivated. I'm not sure they can get thru firewalls, etc to see what people are running so maybe they just mimiced the virus/trojan and looked for response. Pretty radical but throughput has gotten better since they did this. Hope shutting down ICMP / PING helps.

Glitz! You are awesome! I give myself 4 out of 5 for major embarassment while trying to do the obvious. For the record: Merely hitting ENTER does indeed run the default boot setting. :lol: Case closed!

OK! Thanks again! That is what I figured, but I didn't like the fact that the mindi CD wasn't booting into lilo. Guess it doesn't like the mdk version or something. I'll try going on with mondo and see how it goes. Blessings to you!

Daveleh: Thanks for your thought and effort to help! Yes, I have that HOW TO file but it doesn't tell me what to do at the prompt. Since on boot it just says: boot: I am a bit baffled. :roll: I think the problem is that it is booting isolinux instead of going through lilo. My install didn't like the version of lilo I have installed. (see above) Still scratching my head a bit...

Thanks Paul! That didn't work, but got me trying more things. If I type <expert> at the prompt it boots. Pretty cryptic and limited from there, but it does boot! I'd still like to find some instructions or documentation on this as I thought it was going to load via lilo but couldn't find out how. :? EDIT: Just found this in my mindi.log: Back to my drawing board... :!:

Just installed mindi and mondo backup software. Instructions are to test the mindi rescue cd. I booted with the cd and get a prompt that is just Tried typing <linux> w/ no brackets of course and no luck. Tried lang=us like Knoppix uses no luck either. I cannot seem to find any instructions in the docs or online concerning how to proceed at the boot: line. Can someone please point me to a man page or instructions on how this works? TIA!

Doesn't look like you can! Linuxcult.com is using HiveMail which is webmail only. You can have your webmail on linuxcult.com retrieve other POP mail for you, but linuxcult.com webmail cannot be accessed via a POP interface unless you can figure out a way to use something like yahoopops and modify the script. That's the only way I can think of to make it work. But it would be a lot easier to just check it from the web and not use it for a main email address. :wink: