Guest jgar Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I am a new linux user and have never used it before. I have installed Mandrake 9.1 on a Windows98 system with the hardware below: CPU Type Intel Pentium MMX, 233 MHz Motherboard Chipset Intel Triton 82430TX System Memory 64 MB (EDO) BIOS Type Award Modular (05/19/97) Video Adapter Matrox MGA Mystique Audio Adapter Creative SB AWE32 Audio Adapter Floppy Drive GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Disk Drive GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE46 Optical Drive ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE Optical Drive Traxdata CDRW2260+ Modem Lucent Win Modem The installation was completed OK, but linux will not boot. The boot goes OK until it gets to a line that has hdd: Traxdata CDRW2260+,ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE and then stops. I can boot with the installation disk and then type in rescue and get a command prompt but I do not know how to fix the problem. I know the hardware is a bit old but I just want to see how Linux goes before I buy a new laptop. Any help would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtweidmann Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 I can nothing in your specification that should makde Linux fall over. Something worth trying, if you haven't already, is boot using the failsafe option. Its a bit like safe mode in Windows, and even if it won't boot it might give your more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris z Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 it's weird that it's tripping up on your cd rom drives. does it just stop booting & hang there, or is there an error message? if there's a message, please post the message, exactly as it reads. the "old" hardware, as you put it, shouldn't be an issue. something else is going on there. were there any problems/errors during the install? did it have any trouble with mount points during install? like MT said, try failsafe. it may get you booted, or you'd at least get some more specific output as to what's causing the boot failure. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Out of curiosity, what are the drive settings in your bios, and did you turn off plug and play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 22, 2003 Report Share Posted August 22, 2003 Trying to use dma and hanging maybe? Ay the lilo bootloader menu, pess F1 and type; linux ide=nodma <and hit Enter> and see if it'll boot. You can try to view the logs by booting to recsue mode and selecting 'mount your partitions under /mnt' and then 'Go to Console'. Then type; chroot /mnt vi /var/log/messages or dmesg and look for probs. ...and welcome to the board :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jgar Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Thanks for the replies. I tried to boot in failsafe but it did the same. It just stops at that line and hangs, there are no error messages. There were no problems during the install. The drive settings in the BIOS are : Primary Master type user size 3497 cyls 847 head 128 precomp 0 landz 6780 sector 63 mode LDA and I did not turn off plug and play. I tried to use "linux ide=nodma" but it hung up at the same point as before. The output from the dmesg command is as follows: Linux version 2.4.21-0.13mdkBOOT (quintela@bi.mandrakesoft.com) (gcc version 3.2.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.2-3mdk)) #1 Fri Mar 7 03:53:15 CET 2003 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000004000000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 64MB LOWMEM available. ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 On node 0 totalpages: 16384 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 12288 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. Kernel command line: initrd=cdrom.rdz ramdisk_size=128000 root=/dev/ram3 automatic=method:cdrom acpi=off rescue rw BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz No local APIC present or hardware disabled Initializing CPU#0 Detected 233.866 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 466.94 BogoMIPS Memory: 62376k/65536k available (923k kernel code, 2776k reserved, 250k data, 104k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled. CPU: After generic, caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Common caps: 008001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000 CPU: Intel Pentium MMX stepping 03 Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Checking for popad bug... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030122 ACPI: Disabled via command line (acpi=off) PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb150, last bus=0 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 Initializing RT netlink socket Starting kswapd Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 128000K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta-2.4 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1 PIIX4: chipset revision 1 PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio hda: FUJITSU MPA3035ATU, ATA DISK drive blk: queue c02674e0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) hdc: , ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: Traxdata CDRW2260+, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } hda: 6835952 sectors (3500 MB), CHS=847/128/63, UDMA(33) Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 > NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192) NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 Freeing initrd memory: 554k freed VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). hdc: ATAPI 20X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache, DMA Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 hdd: ATAPI 6X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 768kB Cache, DMA ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). Trying to move old root to /initrd ... failed Unmounting old root Trying to free ramdisk memory ... failed Freeing unused kernel memory: 104k freed inserting floppy driver for 2.4.21-0.13mdkBOOT Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 Journalled Block Device driver loaded SGI XFS snapshot 2.4.20-2003-01-14_00:43_UTC with no debug enabled loop: loaded (max 8 devices) SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 04:08:43 Mar 7 2003 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x6300, IRQ 11 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x6400, IRQ 10 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 hub.c: USB hub found hub.c: 2 ports detected usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver usb.c: registered new driver keyboard usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide1(22,0). VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ide1(22,0). read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 16:00, block 64, size 1024) read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 16:00, block 8, size 1024) XFS: bad magic number XFS: SB validate failed VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide1(22,64). VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ide1(22,64). read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 16:40, block 64, size 1024) read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 16:40, block 8, size 1024) XFS: bad magic number XFS: SB validate failed VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide0(3,0). VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,0). read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 03:00, block 64, size 1024) read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 03:00, block 8, size 1024) XFS: bad magic number XFS: SB validate failed VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev ide0(3,1). VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,1). read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 03:01, block 64, size 1024) read_super_block: can't find a reiserfs filesystem on (dev 03:01, block 8, size 1024) XFS: bad magic number XFS: SB validate failed attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=2, (=0x2), limit=1 EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=2, (=0x2), limit=1 EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=65, (=0x41), limit=1 read_super_block: bread failed (dev 03:02, block 64, size 1024) attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=9, (=0x9), limit=1 read_super_block: bread failed (dev 03:02, block 8, size 1024) attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=4, (=0x4), limit=1 XFS: bad magic number XFS: SB validate failed attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=36, (=0x24), limit=1 attempt to access beyond end of device 03:02: rw=0, want=64, (=0x40), limit=1 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,5), internal journal EXT3-fs: recovery complete. EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,7), internal journal EXT3-fs: recovery complete. EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 You need to run a disk utility on your drive. There may be some bad blocks. I think that part of the system cannot be read from the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 :shock: a google search looks to me that the prob starts here Unmounting old rootTrying to free ramdisk memory ... failed Anything strange at install? Did you do an expert install and partition yourself? If so, can you give any details on the partition setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jgar Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 The installation went fine. I have installed it 3 times and it was OK each time. I didnt do an expert installation, I let the installation do the partitioning and set the windows drive to about 1G so Linux should have over 2G. I ran scandisk over the drive before the first installation but I will run it again and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Be sure to run it in thorough mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jgar Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 Ok I have found the problem, I have a PCI to USB card installed and this seems to be the problem. When I take the card out Linux will boot and when I put it back in it will not boot. Thanks for everybodys help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpatrick Posted August 24, 2003 Report Share Posted August 24, 2003 It might be an irq conflict. Try putting your card in a different slot if you have one available. Also, in your previous post you stated that you did NOT turn off plug and play in the bios. I don't know if that's a typo, but you should have plug and play disabled in the bios for linux; it can cause all kinds of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJohn Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Hi. I am willing to bet that NOT having DISABLED Plug n Play is the cause of the problem. This is emphasised by the removing of the PCI-USB card removing the problem. The first and MOST Important rule BEFORE installing any LINUX OS is :- DISABLE plug n play IN THE BIOS. It is the one rule most ignored by newbies who then complain that LINUX is too difficult. Cheers. JOHN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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