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Hi all

 

Since I'm using Linux, I've always use KDE. IceWM is on my server and I don't like it that much (not for everyday use at least). I like to clic, this is why I have stick to KDE 'till now. So the question:

 

Which desktop environment should I emerge now? Don't just say 'whatever' and clic 'Submit'. Please provide some explainations as for why I should use 'whatever' environment instead of KDE.

 

Thx for helping me ...

 

MOttS

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gnome is a nice gui, just as gui as kde, but a litttle "macish" looking. That is, it has a smoother graphic appearance. Now, for something really gui but interesting in a different way, enlightenment. It plays differently than kde, and is not as cluttered. But, kde is a real windowish de! I have kde for my main, but I play with gnome and enlightenment all the time.

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DE? There's only 2 (G & K), so you don't have a lot of choice here :wink: If you're going to consider ice and E DE's and you're not wanting ice then gnome and E are you're only 2 choices. Gnome is all I use anymore. Why? Cuz I don't like anything about kde other than it's usually stable and everything usually works. Gnome can be a little sticky, especially since it's being completely re-worked. I'm excited about the end result but devel is sloOoow, and gnome won't be what I want it to be til probably 2.6 :roll: I've always thought gnome was lighter,faster,smoother. Although it's not really lighter on resources anymore I still feel it's faster and gtk smoother than qt. It's much easier to customize as well. Don't want nautilus to draw the desktop but want icons? Tell nautilus not to, and use Esetroot for wallpaper, idesk for icons, and use Endeavour :P (no, I use nautilus) ...or something else.

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Ok thanks guys for your input. I really appreciate it.

 

Now look at what I would have to emerge to get Gnome up and running .. this is awesome.

 

bash-2.05b# emerge -p gnome



These are the packages that I would merge, in order:



Calculating dependencies ...done!

[ebuild  N   ] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.5

[ebuild  N   ] dev-util/indent-2.2.9

[ebuild  N   ] net-libs/linc-1.0.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/ORBit2-2.6.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gconf-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.60.1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.1.2-r3

[ebuild  N   ] dev-python/PyXML-0.8.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libglade-2.0.1

[ebuild  N   ] x11-wm/metacity-2.4.34

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/bonobo-activation-2.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgnomecanvas-2.2.0.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.2.4

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgnome-2.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.2.0.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-1.0.5

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-metal-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-thinice-2.0.2

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-redmond95-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-pixbuf-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/opensp-1.5-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/openjade-1.3.2-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.0-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd-4.1.2.4

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-3.1-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.1-r1

[ebuild  N   ] dev-perl/SGMLSpm-1.03-r4

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets-1.77-r2

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd-4.0-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.12

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.11-r1

[ebuild  N   ] app-arch/file-roller-2.2.4

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/ggv-2.0.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gconf-editor-0.4.1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.3.1

[ebuild  N   ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20030708

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/jpeg-mmx-1.1.2-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libmovtar-0.1.3-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4

[ebuild    U ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r3 [2.1.4]

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/imlib2-1.0.6.20030220-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.7_pre20030624

[ebuild  N   ] media-video/avifile-0.7.32.20030219

[ebuild  N   ] media-video/mjpegtools-1.6.0-r7

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/gstreamer-0.6.1-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/openquicktime-1.0-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/hermes-1.3.2-r2

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.6.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gail-1.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/libgtkhtml-2.2.3

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.8.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.2.5

[ebuild  N   ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.2.1-r1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-panel-2.2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gnome-utils-2.2.3

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.2.1.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/eel-2.2.3

[ebuild  N   ] app-text/aspell-0.50.3

[ebuild  N   ] app-dicts/aspell-en-0.51.0

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgnomeprint-2.2.1.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgnomeprintui-2.2.1.2

[ebuild  N   ] app-editors/gedit-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gnome-games-2.2.0

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/at-spi-1.1.8

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/libgail-gnome-1.0.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gnome2-user-docs-2.0.6

[ebuild  N   ] x11-libs/vte-0.10.27

[ebuild  N   ] x11-terms/gnome-terminal-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-session-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libao-0.8.3-r1

[ebuild  N   ] media-sound/vorbis-tools-1.0-r1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/nautilus-2.2.3

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libgtop-2.0.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/gnome-system-monitor-2.0.4-r1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gdm-2.4.1.3

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/acme-2.0.4

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/bug-buddy-2.2.106

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/control-center-2.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-extra/nautilus-media-0.2.2

[ebuild  N   ] media-gfx/eog-2.2.1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/gnome-2.2.1

 

And now for Enlightment.

 

bash-2.05b# emerge -p enlightenment



These are the packages that I would merge, in order:



Calculating dependencies ...done!

[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/fnlib-0.5-r1

[ebuild  N   ] gnome-base/libghttp-1.0.9-r3

[ebuild    U ] media-libs/freetype-1.3.1-r3 [2.1.4]

[ebuild  N   ] x11-wm/enlightenment-0.16.5-r4

 

How come Gnome is so big? ... wow.. I'm a newbies to this. Didn't know Gnome was so big. I'm gonna search the Gentoo forum about a way to install the strict minimal. I don't want to compile unnecessary stuff...

 

Thx

 

MOttS

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Gnome isn't any bigger than kde, heck I think it's smaller. Just has a pkg for almost every app where kde has one big pkg with 10 apps. You're not going to take a lot off because of deps. BTW, it's because of there being so many pkgs that gnome is extremely hard to compile from tar (not to mention all the typing/time), with a end result of bug city.

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... with a end result of bug city.

 

Oh really? .. I don't want to contaminate my system man! What's wrong with Gnome 2.2.1? Is there anything I should know before starting to compile?

 

Thx

 

MOttS

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Hi MottS

Gnome later, skip it, gtk "blurs(tache)" display, not cool !

My main GUI is Kde just love the "signets" on desktop.

However

export ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86

Check out :

/usr/portage/xfce-base

/usr/portage/xfce-extra

i.e. xfce4

Light, small + fast compiles.

Ohlala definite contender, and soon more to come I read.

Just might cookup/find a "signets" solution but

won't part with konqueror, whatever.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=63322

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Hey,

I like Fluxbox, im currently using it on my LFS, becouse its light and fast. Also, its almost no-dependable so, you can have it without almost any dep-problems.

 

Also as mentioned, Enlightenment its pretty good, actually its the "prettiest" of them all...

the CVS version is the pre 0.17 wich is supposed to be a DE from now on.

Also XFCE is going to get the DE title in its next version, for what i read.

 

Anyway, for heavy GUI i like KDE, its very complete, and i like loading all kind of applets and extension bars...

 

And like i sayd, when i want something fast and light, Fluxbox... Also there are plenty of plugins and such...

 

links

www.fluxbox.org

www.enlightenment.org

 

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Oh wow.. XFce4 seems nice from the screenshots on http://www.xfce.org/ . It will be out August 3 though. I think I will wait 'till there. KDE is usually in the portage tree the same day it is out .. hope it will be the same for XFce4.

 

sud_crow, thanks for the offer with FluxBox but to me, this is too much like BlackBox. I compiled BlackBox last January when I first installed Gentoo. I used it a couples of day while KDE was compiling (haha). Since then I reinstalled the whole thing and the only DE I have on the system is KDE. I'm looking for something else .. but not Blackbox/Fluxbox.

 

Thx guys!

 

MOttS

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Guest vande198

XFce4 does indeed look awesome, and I can't wait to give it a run once the first full release comes out and I get back on T1 at school. Anybody been fooling around with the betas and RCs?

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Also, I wonder what might be the best webbrowser for XFce. Would that be Firebird or some GTK2-based browser like Galeon or Epiphany (or do they require too many Gnome libraries)?

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