dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Dear mandrivausers Please bear with me on this - I am a complete Linux newbie ... but a newbie commited to learn something ... new. System: 1GB ram Western Digital Caviar HD @ 15gb (has Unbuntu installed) or 250gb Maxtor PATA DiamondMax21 (formatted) Athlon 1800xp GeForce 2 Graphics (I think) - The mobo doesn't have ob graphics. Initial problem: Mandriva 1008 Spring DVD (from Linux Format magazine) - Splash screen loads. Click on Install. Kernel loads 100%. Second splash screen with progess bar in bottom left starts, and then hangs at about 99%. I have tried to install on a freshly formatted 250gb HD, then on another HD which has ubuntu 8.04 (note, ubuntu works fine - only I don't know how to install drivers and what not!). It hangs on both, as above. So, I've spent a week searching for resolves for this, have found a few answers that didn't work, and am now at a loss. I have tried modifying the Boot Option with "linux noapic nolapic acpi=off ide=nodma" (whithout the quotes) in various order - some, all, one off, etc but get no where at all. It could be that I am modifying the Boot Option incorrectly, as I am adding the noapic to the end of the string that is automatically there. Eg: initrd=alt0/all.rdz automatic=method:cdrom vga=788 splash=verbose linux noapic nolapic acpi=off ide=nodma I have tried Splash=0 and verbose, as well. Also, reducing the screensize option. Verbose gives me a better idea of what is happening: Loading programme in to memory (100% red bar) proceeding, please wait... exited abnormally -- received signal 11 sending termination signals... done sending kill signals...done unmounting file systems... /tmp/media /tmp/stage2 /dev/loop0 you may safely reboot or halt your system Any help would be very gratefully received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Sounds to me like the disc you got might be bad, but that's just a theory. You say Ubuntu loaded with no issues, right? What you might try, if you've got a good connection and some time to spare, is to download a new 2008.1 i586 dvd iso from one of the mirrors, burn it, and go from there. That might be better for you. Make sure you get the i586 version of the disc, not the 64 bit version. That also could be your issue but I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Could you perhaps try and see if the Mandriva live CD - One - can boot? You can download it at http://www.mandriva.com/download , or http://torrent.mandriva.com/public . thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Eg: initrd=alt0/all.rdz automatic=method:cdrom vga=788 splash=verbose linux noapic nolapic acpi=off ide=nodma From when I usually do this, I put it on the kernel line, rather than the initrd, this could be why it's not working for you. And if you add to the kernel line, you don't need to put linux, just the noapic, etc, etc, is OK to put here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 liquidzoo, thank you for the very prompt reply. Much appreciated. Ok. Yep, Ubuntu is installed (I can't get the USB W/Lan to work, but that's another issue). I would download the dvd iso, but I have no dvds. What I did download, though, is mandriva-linux-one-2008-spring-KDE-int-cdrom-i586 and that just goes belly up moreso than the dvd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 From when I usually do this, I put it on the kernel line, rather than the initrd, this could be why it's not working for you. And if you add to the kernel line, you don't need to put linux, just the noapic, etc, etc, is OK to put here. :unsure: right, this is where I put on my newbie t-shirt. Where is the kernel line? I have a feeling that many will be laughing at that question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 When you're booting the CD, I think there is an option you can choose (I've not booted it so unsure), but you can edit the boot parameters to boot with those options. If that's what you've already done, then I guess it must be different to editing a standard boot config from when it's already installed on your machine. I've not got the CD to hand, so can't tell you exactly what option it is. I'm probably more than useless at this stage :) When you boot the CD and get the intial menu, what options do you see? Post here, and I'll then tell you which one to choose - unless of course, someone has the CD and posts back before to say which one to choose and edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) Thanks Ian From the Spring DVD I get 4 options - Boot from hard disk (which boots Ubuntu) Install Mandriva Linux 2008 Spring Rescue System Memory Test Pressing F3 gives me more options - F1 > F6 : Help / Language / 800x600 / DVD / Driver / Kernel Option There is also a Boot Option line, where I was entering the noapic, etc I have just found that pressing "ESC" starts a text mode interface, with Boot: I tried noapic nolapic ... nothing happened. Interestingly, I tried linux noapic nolapic and it set off ... but then went back to the progress bar and hanged at about 99% as before. EDIT: And, the keyboard goes down (no response & and flashing caps lock) Edited June 16, 2008 by dubbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 OK, we need the kernel option line - give that a go and add the noapic stuff. The flashing lights on keyboard indicate kernel panic when it couldn't boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 is the kernel line the black screen with "boot:" ? ie, from pressing ESC at the graphic splash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 From your menu description, press F3 to get to more options, then F6, I believe, for the kernel options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbed Posted June 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 From your menu description, press F3 to get to more options, then F6, I believe, for the kernel options I have tried all of the kernel options - same result: Panic. Would it be a hardware issue? Thank you all for your help thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Just out of curiosity, what version of the mandriva dvd do you have? I'm not sure if you can get the kernel version from that dvd boot menu, but if you can, it would be a great help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 From the subject: "Mandriva 2008 Spring DVD" :) When you said you tried all the kernel options, was it on the line that I mentioned or was it on the original line that you tried before my suggestion? If before, try like I mentioned and see if it helps. If it doesn't, please try the Mandriva 2008 ONE Live CD to see if you can boot this. The Live CD is a good test to see if your hardware is supported without actually installing the operating system. This can also rule out if it's a problem with the install DVD or your hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Just out of curiosity: is the first harddrive a SATA drive? I remember that some months ago, there was a huge problem reported with almost every linux distro when using PATA and SATA drives. Maybe the problem is located there. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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