MadHattr Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Hey ive been useing mandrake since 8.1 and its been working out pretty good for me but lately ive just been getting anoyed with it and i have come to the conclusion that i should see whats out there. Does anyone know a good distro i should try? im looking for something thats not too nerdy, but something that has good package management apt for mandrake seems to be worthless and rpm's are driving me crazy! i dont want to have to compile anything! and one that has a nice install would be great too! i dont like lindows,lycoris,xandros,redhat,suse yoper looks nice not sure what gentoos like and debian seems too nerdy for me but i could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 You should try another distro just to see how much mandrake is doing. I'm not sure what you mean by "nerdy". Any distro, other than rpm based is going to require a certain degree of do-it-yourself; rpm based distros remove some of that. Gentoo and arch both have a package management system, but you really need to know what you are doing, or at least be able to understand the directions that are given! :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Hey ive been useing mandrake since 8.1 and its been working out pretty good for me but lately ive just been getting anoyed with it and i have come to the conclusion that i should see whats out there. Does anyone know a good distro i should try? im looking for something thats not too nerdy, but something that has good package management apt for mandrake seems to be worthless and rpm's are driving me crazy! i dont want to have to compile anything! and one that has a nice install would be great too! i dont like lindows,lycoris,xandros,redhat,suse yoper looks nice not sure what gentoos like and debian seems too nerdy for me but i could be wrong.  Libranet 2.8 8)  http://www.libranet.com/  http://forum.libranet.com/  Not to nerdy, but can be. Great package management with apt, done the debian way not apt4rpm. No rpms, can't drive you crazy. If you need rpms, you can convert them with Alien. Don't have to comile if you don't want to. Pretty easy install. auto install nvidia drivers if you have them.  Also includes Realplayer, flash, mozplugger, java, true type fonts after install. kernel compiling is super easy if you don't want to go the normal route. Easily upgraded and updated.  Down side, you have to pay up front for it. Up side if you don't like it in 30 day's you can get your money back. I would bet you wont give it up though.  Here is a lot of reviews and they have a good community.  http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973...,1114518,00.asp  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6878  http://www.madpenguin.org/article.php?sid=191  http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou...eview-libranet2  bvc might back me up on this one???  :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 :) http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=5054 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah31 Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Libranet 2.8 8)  http://www.libranet.com/  http://forum.libranet.com/  Not to nerdy, but can be. Great package management with apt, done the debian way not apt4rpm. No rpms, can't drive you crazy. If you need rpms, you can convert them with Alien. Don't have to comile if you don't want to. Pretty easy install. auto install nvidia drivers if you have them.  Also includes Realplayer, flash, mozplugger, java, true type fonts after install. kernel compiling is super easy if you don't want to go the normal route. Easily upgraded and updated.  Down side, you have to pay up front for it. Up side if you don't like it in 30 day's you can get your money back. I would bet you wont give it up though.  Here is a lot of reviews and they have a good community.  http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973...,1114518,00.asp  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6878  http://www.madpenguin.org/article.php?sid=191  http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou...eview-libranet2  bvc might back me up on this one???  :roll:  while i admit it is an easy "distro" the developers are evil and those "reviews" are mostly from longtime, and therefore biased, users. i would suggest try the ancient but free 2.0 version before deciding to blow all that money for an installer and admin tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Libranet 2.8 8)  http://www.libranet.com/  http://forum.libranet.com/  Not to nerdy, but can be. Great package management with apt, done the debian way not apt4rpm. No rpms, can't drive you crazy. If you need rpms, you can convert them with Alien. Don't have to comile if you don't want to. Pretty easy install. auto install nvidia drivers if you have them.  Also includes Realplayer, flash, mozplugger, java, true type fonts after install. kernel compiling is super easy if you don't want to go the normal route. Easily upgraded and updated.  Down side, you have to pay up front for it. Up side if you don't like it in 30 day's you can get your money back. I would bet you wont give it up though.  Here is a lot of reviews and they have a good community.  http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973...,1114518,00.asp  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6878  http://www.madpenguin.org/article.php?sid=191  http://www.distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou...eview-libranet2  bvc might back me up on this one???  :roll:  while i admit it is an easy "distro" the developers are evil and those "reviews" are mostly from longtime, and therefore biased, users. i would suggest try the ancient but free 2.0 version before deciding to blow all that money for an installer and admin tool.  Sarah31 why do you feel the developers are evil? I haven't heard that one, I don't know, just curious. The Madpenugin reveiw was done by Slack lovers so his isn't to biased.  Thanks BVC!  Speaking of Evil developers, has anyone read the Gentoo deal on osnews.com today? Pretty good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah31 Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 cybrjackle, Â i will pm you with my experience with tal and jon and some things that i have observed since my departure. Â my view of libranet has changed drastically but i do consider it a good intro to debian....if you cannot get through the debian install. (but i have my opinion on that as well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHattr Posted June 26, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 yea, im pretty good with linux i have it on 3 of my computers and can usualy fix most if not all the problems i run into, and i can follow directions. also how is connectiva? i think there from brazill or somewhere down south of me, but have any of you used it? i never see any reviews for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 cybrjackle, i will pm you with my experience with tal and jon and some things that i have observed since my departure.  my view of libranet has changed drastically but i do consider it a good intro to debian....if you cannot get through the debian install. (but i have my opinion on that as well.)  Please do, I'm intrigued! :P Your just a big fanny! :lol: j/k  I keep wanting to try , but havend made my mind up about it. Maybe I'm just scared.  I'm just getting tired of testing distro's all the time and not sticking with one. I use becuase job permits it. Over all, it is stable and nice. RPMs aint so good.  I think I suffer from mulitple distro personality's MDP for short. Along with ADD and insomnia it's a crazy mix. I think they call it:  addImdp, but I'm not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 I think I suffer from mulitple distro personality's MDP for short. Along with ADD and insomnia it's a crazy mix. I think they call it: addImdp, but I'm not sure?  actually, I believe the technical term for that according to psychologist and psychiatrists alike is "geek" :mystilol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 I think I suffer from mulitple distro personality's MDP for short. Along with ADD and insomnia it's a crazy mix. I think they call it: addImdp, but I'm not sure?  actually, I believe the technical term for that according to psychologist and psychiatrists alike is "geek" :mystilol:  Who would know better than you?  Your awesome tyme (look, it's lower case) you da man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Your awesome tyme (look, it's lower case) you da man. erm....sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 upgrade to 9.1 if you have urpmi with sources added, rpms will no longer drive you mad. All you do is "urpmi evolution" and it will download and install the evolution RPM and dependencies. Like apt. Â EDIT: To make RPMS really easy, see my mini-Howto http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=6090 Â Â RPMs are probably driving you mad because you have an old MDK and most of the RPMS now have precompiled binaries using GLibc2.3. Which are almost useless on 8.1. And a lot of it's out of date which means that when you install a new program. it'll probably want a string of dependencies cause your current version is out of date. i had these problems too with MDK8.2. Â And also what is also an option is Linux From Scratch, ok you don't want to compile, but it's a helluva lot of fun, work and is rewarding. YOu learn a lot too. I'm about 1/3 of the way through one. Â Try MDK 9.1, i did, it's great. Â Anyway, my 4 AU cents (us 2 cents) Â James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chadd Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 I like Alt linux Jr. Uses synaptic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadHattr Posted June 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 im running 9.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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