phatsteve Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I just added an extra hdd to my 2007 Spring installation, showing as hdc1. When I tried to write to it I got this error 'This action only available through Hal' (or something similar) On start-up I noticed this 'Start Hal daemon [failed]' What's happened to Hal? Why has he deserted me? Was it something I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpatrick Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 What type of hard drive did you install, eg. pata, sata, scsi, etc? HAL usually only comes into play for removable storage devices. How did you partition and format the new drive? Also, run this in a console and post the output: $ su <enter root password> # fdisk -l That should list all the hard drive partitions that your system recognizes, whether mounted or not. Finally, post your /etc/fstab file. fstab controls the mounting of partitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 hdd is pata on secondary master channel. fdisk -l is :- fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 41.1 GB, 41110142976 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4998 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 2923 23478966 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 2924 4998 16667437+ 5 Extended /dev/hda5 2924 3942 8185086 83 Linux /dev/hda6 3943 4451 4088511 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda7 4452 4998 4393746 83 Linux Disk /dev/hdc: 30.7 GB, 30735581184 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3736 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 * 1 3736 30009388+ 83 Linux fstab is :- /dev/hda5 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdc1 /files ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb /media/cdrom auto umask=0,users,iocharset=utf8,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /media/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,iocharset=utf8,sync 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,nls=utf8,ro 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Also flash disk is now not recognised, could this be because hal is not starting? When I click on hdc1 in devices the error is 'Feature only available with Hal' When I try to acces /files through konqueror, no problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpatrick Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) From the kmenu go to System>Configuration>Configure Your Computer and type in your root password when prompted. This will bring up the mandriva control center(mcc). In mcc go to System>Enable or disable system services. Look for the entry for "haldaemon". Make sure the "on boot" box is ticked. If the hal service is not currently running, hit the "Start" button to get it going now without rebooting. See if that helps. Edited July 3, 2007 by pmpatrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I did as you said, The haldaemon shows as 'stopped' there is a tick in the box 'On boot' when I try to start it I get:- 'Stopping HAL daemon: [FAILED]' 'Starting HAL daemon: [FAILED]' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpatrick Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Have you installed all your updates? If not, do so now and see if that helps. IIRC there were some updates for mdv2007.1 specifically dealing with HAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Thanks for the advice, I'll try it tomorrow, It's time to walk the dog now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 if it still fails, what we'll need to do next is run the hal daemon manually and look at the error messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 When I try to get updates, this is the result:- Sorry, the following packages can't be selected: kdegraphics-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 (due to missing libkdegraphics0-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586) kdegraphics-kghostview-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 (due to unsatisfied kdegraphics[== 1:3.5.6-2mde2007.0]) kdegraphics-kpdf-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 (due to unsatisfied kdegraphics[== 1:3.5.6-2mde2007.0]) kdegraphics-ksnapshot-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 (due to missing libkdegraphics0-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586) I ok this, and this happens:- To satisfy dependencies, the following 39 packages are going to be installed: arts-1.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 kdebase-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-common-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-kate-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-kdeprintfax-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-kdm-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-kmenuedit-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-konsole-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-nsplugins-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-progs-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdebase-session-plugins-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 kdemultimedia-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdemultimedia-kaudiocreator-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdemultimedia-kmix-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdemultimedia-kscd-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-ark-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kcalc-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kcharselect-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kdf-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kedit-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kfloppy-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 kdeutils-kwalletmanager-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libarts1-1.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 libkdebase4-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 libkdebase4-kate-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 libkdebase4-kmenuedit-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 libkdebase4-konsole-3.5.6-34.1mdv2007.1.i586 libkdegraphics0-kghostview-3.5.6-2mde2007.0.i586 libkdemultimedia1-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdemultimedia1-kmix-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdemultimedia1-kscd-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-ark-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-kcalc-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-kdf-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-kedit-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 libkdeutils1-kwalletmanager-3.5.6-4mde2007.0.i586 rdesktop-1.5.0-1.1mdv2007.1.i586 At the end I get this:- Installation failed, some files are missing: - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm - http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/t...2007.0.i586.rpm You may want to update your media database. Error(s) reported: ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 1 I don't know if this has anthing to do with hal problems? I enabled these repositories to get codecs etc for video and dvd creation. I do know that hal was running before I enabled all the repositories here:- http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ . Perhaps I should re-install and not enable those repositories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexter11 Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 You need to resetup your sources. Anorien doesn't provide a Mandriva mirror anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Maybe this will help (regarding those sources): http://www.brunolinux.com/03-Installing_So...driva_2007.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 thanks for tip on repositories, I'll look into it when I've sorted my hal problem. I've removed thac repository and carried out update with no problems, now have green tick! Hal daemon still fails on startup, flashdrive still not recognised, but now hdc1 shows in devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Anorien is a dead mirror since quite some time ago indeed, and mixing main Mandriva with MDE or SoS packages is tempting, but a bad choice, nevertheless... I've learned that in the past, the hard way. If you want to use "the latest and greatest" then either switch to Cooker, or another distro - simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatsteve Posted July 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) We seem to be getting off the track, as I said earlier, extra repos are for codecs etc, which I now have, so those repos are turned off. Getting back to my hal problem, does anyone know how to troubleshoot this problem of hal not starting on boot? How can I start it manually? It won't start from MCC. rpmdrake says I have hal-0.5.9-0.rc2.2mdv2007.1.i586 installed. Edited July 5, 2007 by phatsteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJohn Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Just stating the obvious. Have you tried uninstalling the hal package and then reinstalling from a fresh download ??. Make sure it also fresh reinstalls libhal just in case that is part of your problem. If you have been mixing stuff with cooker then it is no wonder you are having troubles. Some of us users do the same but we know to suspect problems doing it and usually go back to non cooker stuff to get back to normal. Cheers. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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