Edd Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 I am considering purchasing Mandriva Linux PowerPack 10.1 - is it worth buying the paid version or should I stick to the free versions? I mean, what are the advantages of the paid versions? And how easy is it to upgrade my existing 10.1 Official installation? Thanks :) [moved from Installing Mandrake by spinynorman] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polemicz Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Two things: one 10.1 is out of date, use 2005, two Mandriva is a commercial enterprise that needs income in order to continue putting out distros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edd Posted July 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Couple of things, how come 10.1 powerpack cost more if they're actually out of date? Also, could you tell me if there are any significant improvments by using the 2005 version or any of the paid versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 It is not exactly out of date, just older :) Anyway, I am not sure why Mandrake 10.1 is more expensive. You should read what is included carefully and compare it to 2005. Maybe it includes DVD version while 2005 doesn't? Paid version usually gives you more software, some downloadable for free, some doesn't. I know that powerpack editions usually includes non-free drivers and software, such as NVidia & ATI drivers and Sun JRE & JDK. While you can always download them yourself, they usually took a bit of an effort to install. Putting the software in Mandrake RPM format really ease up installation. Also, I think buying the retail edition gives you a couple of month's membership into Mandriva Club. There you can get access to more software and updates for the non-free drivers/software in RPM format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edd Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Ahhh right so it's mainly just software and driver updates and all this sort of thing? Well I may buy 2005 some time, Thanks for the tips :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 Remember also that 2005 LE is a "community" version, and 10.1 is an official release. It's supposed to be more stable. Since there won't be a 2005 stable release (just mandriva 2006, which comes out near september), you might want to add that to the equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edd Posted July 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 I had a quick look for a review of 2006, it looks good, I think I'm going to hold out for 2006 Official and see if I still want it. Thanks for all the pointers :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2k5 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Anybody here using the commercial mdk 64-bit? I'm thinking about buying it I'm not sure .... I have some distros right now that I'm going to try such as Ubuntu, Mandrake 10.1 or so, and fedora core. DMage I know you got most of them running how are they? Except Ubuntuy I'm not sure if you have given that a spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 I am running FC4 x86_64... but I really really think that I am going to reformat and reinstall Mandriva 2005 LE again in a couple of days. Everything is so gnome centric that KDE becomes unstable. Kicker crashing during loggging out, making the logout sequence hanging until I have to press ctrl-alt-delete to relogin, no 64 bit mplayer, xine hanging after splash screen, etc. I just don't have the time and the bandwidth to fix them all. Maybe FC4 32 bit edition is better, but as of now FC4 x86_64 is not ready for prime time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJohn Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 (edited) Hi adriano, I am not sure you are correct in saying that Mandriva2005-LE is a community version. I seem to remember adamw saying it was NOT and he is connected to Mandriva so he should know. Note to Adamw, am I recalling correctly or am I not ???. John. Edited July 3, 2005 by AussieJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 What I remember comes from this link or similars. I quote from there: Taking into account this new schedule, product naming will henceforth be based on year names. The next release will be in the fall and will be named "2006". Additionally, Mandrakesoft has decided to release a transitional version of Mandrakelinux in spring 2005. Built on the current Mandrakelinux development branch, this version will provide up-to-date and newly released open source software, including KDE 3.3, GNOME 2.8 and Firefox 1.0.1. This special version will be available as a DVD and a CD set through Mandrakestore and Mandrakeclub and as a download, but not through retail channels. The transitional version will be called "Limited Edition 2005". Later, by fall of this year, the new boxed "2006" release will fully integrate Conectiva technology and Mandrakesoft online services into a new product. It will be released through traditional retail channels as well as by direct sale from Mandrakestore and Mandrakeclub, and will offer all support options and related services. François Bancilhon, CEO of Mandrakesoft, explained: "We needed a transitional version to give us the time to ensure good integration of the Conectiva technology into Mandrakelinux. That's the reason why we chose to release this "Limited Edition 2005". Additionally, we decided to change the way we name the versions, because our users needed to better identify our releases. As a result, we choose a new yearly release scheme." Both the Limited Edition 2005 and the 2006 version will be released in 32-bit and 64-bit editions. 2005 Roadmap Sumary: Name: "Limited Edition 2005" Expected date of release: Spring 2005 Technology: Based on current development branch Support & Services: No Release Channels: Mandrakeclub, Mandrakestore (DVD + 6 CD set) Name: "2006" Expected date of release: Fall 2005 Technology: Integrates Conectiva technology Support & Services: Full Release channels: Mandrakeclub, Mandrakestore, retail (DVD, Packs...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJohn Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 You are correct about the CEOs quotes but I remember later questions where he was asked if it was a community edition and he said no it wasn´t, it was closer to an official edition but they had decided to close the LE from further additions of newer cutting edge stuff such as kde3.4 etc and to spend the time and energy doing that for 2006 instead. Despite some of the sad stories aired here, I have found 2005 to be the most stable Mandriva/Mandrake ever but then again I do not try to make it do other than it was set up to do by Mandriva. I have all updates including the latest kernels and source and latest nvidia drivers and have not had any difficulties doing it or with it. I would strongly recommend the original enquirer go with Mandriva2005-LE because he will not be disappointed. Cheers. John. Thanks adriano for a good calm reply. Not like one other I had recently. JB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Don't worry, I had nothing to be uncivil about. I do remember some press release where I read specifically that it was a community release, but I can't find it. Maybe it was in the wiki... It doesn't turn up. Nevermind. With all that said, it's been a solid release for me too, with the only thing saying "community" being the massive updates some times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yochenhsieh Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 No, LE2005 is neither a Community edition nor an Official edition. It's a... ... Limited Edition! :P Community edition is a development release, but the LE2005 tree is in the /official branch of mirrors. It also has security & bug-fix updates, showing that it's a Official (but limited) product of Mandriva. Compared with previous releases: Before 9.2: cooker snapshot -> beta -> RC -> release 10.0, 10.1: cooker snapshot -> beta -> RC -> Community -> Official LE2005: cooker snapshot -> beta -> RC -> Limited edition 2006 & later: * *:well, this is interesting. Please read here... http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/...ndrivaLinux2006 Where did the snapshot, beta, and RC go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adriano1 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 LE is in the official tree because there's no Community tree anymore for new versions. And the community editions did receive bugfixes and sec updates. At least, I did update. If anything, I had to update _more_ than with an official version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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