Havin_it Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Okay, here goes: Scanner: HP PSC 750 All-in-one (works very nicely on M10.0 OE thankyou) Network topology: Belkin 54G wireless all the way; PCMCIA card, DSLmodem/router, and now USB print server (setup EASIER THAN ON WINDOWS! ... for printing anyway...) Hardware disclaimers: PSC750: does not support network installation Print server: multifunction (scan/fax) operations not supported Additional note: HP JetDirect print server 380x (which allegedly WOULD handle scanning over network) currently priced at about 3x the Belkin. Obsessed with Wifi peripherals I may be, but I ain't that rich...! Current scenario: print quite happily to network, but no scanning without switching printer back to local USB and switching port in Printerdrake. THE DREAM: make it do what the manufacturers say it can't. Scan off network. Suggestions? Dancing banana capability: checking..... [OK] J/K but I would really like some insight on the likely possibility of this hopeless pipe-dream. I'm used to disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Here's my thinking thus far: The JetDirect printserver can handle scans through a Java-based web interface (described as an 'embedded web server'). If the functionality of this server could reside on a local machine, that might solve the problem. The PSC 750 has a 'Scan To' menu, which I guess is configured by the HP Director software when locally connected. If I can add the local IP address/port of a service that can receive the scan data, that would be potentially a solution. (IP address not necessarily crucial, as my router can port-forward to a specific machine.) Just clutching at straws of course - still lacking in hard facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theYinYeti Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hi, As far as I know, Sane (thus Xsane) is network enabled. So you should be able to scan from the network. But then, how would you put your document in the scanner remotely!? Yves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 The scanner is under my desk, not all that remote. I basically got the server to end the confusion of me and the GF having to reorganise the print config every time we swapped which of us was connected to the printer, or every time I switched between Win and Linux boots. I read a bit more about Sane/XSane, not to mention the saned server but they're not gonna help me on their own. The server allows a local scanner to be networked to other computers, but the problem is my scanner's no longer local to any machine. If I initiate a scan from the hardware end, I'd have to use port-triggering on the router to even tell it which machine to send to. Right now Sane can't see anything. Found out more about the 'Scan To list' as well. It's not generated by examining the local machine - well it is, but it's checking against a limited list of known compliant apps. None of which exist in Linux-land, funnily enough. I guess if I could successfully install one of the Apps in WINE, that might bring us up to equivalence with Windoze... Problem is, I'm not sure which port the scanner would use. Is there a standard? In the meantime I'll try installing saned (daemon) and see if it has any useful options, but it don't look too promising. PS - offtopic, but the banana in the smilies panel just stopped dancing. All the others are still going, but he's just frozen, staring straight at me. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durvish Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 are you using the hpijs driver? hpijs driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 9, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I'm currently using HPOJ, which is linked off the PSC750 entry in the HPIJS site. Not quite sure what the relationship is - if I read the HPOJ site correctly, http://hpoj.sf.net HPOJ has been merged into HPIJS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durvish Posted November 9, 2004 Report Share Posted November 9, 2004 I use a PSC 2510 all in one. I can get the network printing up and running with hpoj and using ptal-init setup. But in order to use the scanner and fax I have to install hpijs from source and follow hp's setup. After that everything works like a charm. Without doing much research (sometimes I get a bit lazy) I think hpoj is the print driver and hpijs is the front end for xsane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Ah...encouraging...! What is your network topology though? Is the AIO running off another PC, or a standalone print server? If the latter, is it a HP JetDirect server or something else? (I should say that the Belkin server is the cheapest of its type on the market. And to clarify my orig. post, the HP JetDirect is about FIVE times the price in most stores.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durvish Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 i'm using an hp psc 2510 which has built in wireless (it is seen as a jetdirect) from my experience I can setup the printer for wireless to print using the hpoj driver no prob but the the scanner is not seen. so here is what i normally have to do to have everything working. 1. make sure the hpoj has been installed by mandrake 2. download and istall hpijs in accordance with the hp directions 3. run "ptal-init setup" from console as root 4. set up printer in cups using the ptal address from ptal-init setup 5. from command line (as root) run the scanner find line (this is not the same as the standard xsane line of code, I'm at work now and can't look it up but you can find it in the install tutorial from the hpijs site from hp) p.s. you must restart cups after running ptal-init setup so that cups will see the new connection. as long as your printserver has an ip address all of the above should work smoothly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Should I uninstall the printer and/or CUPS itself before doing this? (It would be worth doing anyway, as I'm gonna probably do a clean-install of Mandy 10.1 when I get it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durvish Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 urpmi cups first you can keep the printer, when you set it up again in cups it will just be another setup and you can make it default if you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Ok, well I got the driver installed and the printer still works with it. Tried running Xsane again, but nothing new there. I guess the last ditch will be the aforementioned find-scanner command. Hope you don't gotta work too long, dude... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durvish Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Make sure hpoj is installed and you have installed hpijs from source as per hp (i can do this as user but it's already installed -- you may have to do this as root first -- not sure ) in the console type scanimage --list-devices here is what mine looks like [durvish@localhost durvish]$ scanimage --list-devices device `hpoj:hpjd:192.168.0.101' is a hp psc 2500 series multi-function peripheral if you get this then when you run xsane it should see your scanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havin_it Posted November 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Nope, still nothing found. I guess the crusher is you have a HP server and I don't. Will keep playing in the hopes that something clicks, but I guess it's not gonna happen. Thanks for taking the time anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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