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When I initially installed there was nothing for eth0. but it showed bringing up eth0 at boot with a FAILED. Now at this point I DID do an ifconfig and set the ip and route -n showed it. But at boot it didn't stay. A route -n after reboot didn't show eth0 again. That's when I used the mandrake wizard. Now in regards to packages I have been able to find my old rpms for some of my progies and have looked online and found the rpms for a few I was missing (lincity, xgalaga). But still looking for an Acroread rpm. I have an old acroread 4.0 installer but it's not the rpm. It'll work in a pinch but it's old. But there's one other catch I'm worried about. I've read somewhere but haven't verified it yet that KDE 3.2 libs are incompatible with some of the backwards compatiblity libraries. specifically the libs I used so I can load my old Word Perfect 8. (Not one word! No one has yet shaken my stubborn loyalty to WP). Now I know about the new (rehash) WordPerfect proof of concept linux version that came out (basically same wp8 with compat built in for new systems) But until I can scrounge up the $$$ to get it I'm stuck with my old 8. I've still got it on my old laptop and in my windows side if nothing else but still use it for quick and dirty word processing. Though I'm using OOo more. But am I really going to be shut out here?

OK So I'm actually logged in on my Mandy 10 partition. So I got my dialup configured. Now I have one confussion. I need to figure this out before I consider making this a working install for the family and save Debian for the backup box. now I looked in /etc/sysconfig and there is no ifcfg-eth* but there is another directory called networking and in it has ifcfg-lo. my loopback device. I used Harddrake and setup my network card. Now I had to go back and reset my dialup since using harddrake rendered my dialup useless but I got that fixed. That's similar to the other mandrake installs I had. Anyway, when I boot it still shows (in verbose mode, blah splash screen) that bringing up eth0 fails. But still when it finishes loading eth0 is available. route -n shows both my lo and eth0 with my selectd ip addy. What gives? Is hard drake initializing it by itself? How can I get the setup set on boot up. I used to use linuxconfig but that's not included any more. So what tool should I use now. Things have changed and I just need to know what tool is prefered now. So far the system looks ok and I can find my missing packages on my old cd's or online. But gotta say I am really jazzed about it's speed now.

Hey, y'all. Haven't seen me around here much? Sorry. I've been a Debian convert since Woody came out. Now I've been keeping an eye on Mandy all the time looking to see if they could win my favor back. I had 9.1 but wasn't impressed. So I just got a copy of 10.0 official and installed it onto a spare partition on my debian box. (actually I moved my home dirs back onto /'s partition and used my old /home partition) Well There is good and bad. In order. I've got the 5 cd's. And the installer is familiar to 9.1's installer. Nothing much diff there. Familiar. but my one actual problem came up during installation. The installer halted for a long time and gave errors on installing about 5 packages. Two were xpdf and quanta. Now confusing thing is that is errored at xpdf whether I selected it to install or not (tried it both ways, same result) Now I first thought it might be the cd since all the packages that errored were on cd 2. But when I did get the system installed I could bring the software installer up and install them after. Another was smb4k eventhough I didn't select it. This makes me think it's an installer as opposed to a cd burn problem. (I got them 3rd party so I don't know about the md5sums) But like I said the packages are installable post-install and work fine. Now two positives. One biggie is the difference in performance with KDE. 3.2 loads quick and flies compared to the kde 3.1 included with Mandy 9.1. Very pleased with this. Also they fixed the annoyance with the muted sound on bootup that was in 9.1. This was a big plus to me. Also the ability to change the cd icon names in KDE is a nice return (those damn large titles for the cd desktop icons in 9.1 were infuriating) But one negative I can't blame on Mandrake. It appears the ne2k-pci module in the 2.6 kernel included with 10.0 doesn't seem to work. In the 2.4 kernel I've had no problems, but the system fails on boot to initialize eth0 even though the ne2k-pci module is listed in my lsmod. This I'm going to look more into. Now I noticed that when I ifconfig eth0 in a console I can setup the interface but it doesn't stay at reboot. This'll take more checking. But the other negative Is more me being spoiled with Debian. I was disappointed that with all Mandrake does install it lacks some of the basic pacakges I have come accustomed to. Like xkobo, xgammon and a few other games. Now I know they have to limit their space on the download cd's and i'm not sure what's on the powerpack discs but these used to be included in the distro back in 8.2 (actually I've saved the rpms for them but haven't tried to install them.) Over all I am impressed with Mandrakesoft's efforts and it is a good overall distro and one I would again refer my newbie converts to (provided that package install error during install is just on my end. Like to hear if anyone else has that) But I'd have to see about how easy it would be to replace the packages I'm missing from Debian before I could convert back from Debian. Then again I haven't gone into setting up my printer or samba. That might be another wrinkle but I'm going to give this week to test some things. We'll see but I think I'm too spoiled to go back. I dunno gotta admit I really am impressed with 10.0's performance and will at least give it a going over before wiping it off the partition again. Whadya guys think bout my hangups?

Haven't posted over here in a while, since I moved to Debian but I find this is a common problem for all distros. This is for everyone who has tried to compile a newer kernel than the stock 2.4.18bf-2.4 and lost the ability to shut down your computer at powerdown. The problem lies in new features in the newer kernels and the default settings when you compile. I found the problem. When you first untar the kernel source and run make xconfig (or whatever means) in the Processor Type and Features section the option for smp is enabled by default. You should select N here if you have single processors. The help file provided states that with this option selected the apm module will be disabled by default. So powerdown will not work with apm if smp is enabled. Even using the append="apm=on" or append="apm=powerdown" in lilo won't work. BUT there's a catch. If you try to fix this with an alredy used Linux-2.4.xx kernel directory it won't undo the settings. In other words. If you've already compiled your own kernel, and the smp is enabled and you just go back to the directory and run make xconfig and disable the smp option it will still conflict. Specifically when you run make bzImage. It will give error listings saying it can't find the smp module in its former location (or something to that affect) So disabling it isn't just the answer. What you should do is save your kernel config to a file and copy that config file somewhere safe and then delete the linux-2.4.xx directory and re-untar it and start from scratch, making sure to move your kernel config file back into the new linux-2.4.xx directory, loading it in make xconfig and first thing disabling the smp option. This is just what I did and I got my powerdown to work finally with my new custom kernel. Here are my options for my kernel config: # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set CONFIG_MK7=y # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=6 CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW=y CONFIG_X86_PGE=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # CONFIG_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_I8K is not set # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set # CONFIG_X86_MSR is not set # CONFIG_X86_CPUID is not set CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set # CONFIG_MTRR is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set <---here is the option to disable. # CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC is not set # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y

OK Paleo you get a cookie! Your second post didn't do anything. Since it was just from another forum not your fault. BUT........ I tried entering a bash script into the kde autostart directory (didn't work by the way) but then I also thought "Wait, I also use IceWM. This script will only get sound in KDE. I opened a terminal and entered aumix -L and sure enough sound came on. SOOOOOO.... I went to my user's root dir, found the .bashrc file. opened it and at the bottom, added the line aumix -L rebooted and instead directly went to Icewm. I popped a cd in and hit the start button. B.I.N.G. and O! Music. Sound problem fixed! I'm going to pass this one around the forums I have seen the question. Thanks and Later! (Still bugs me that something as basic as this is a problem with such a clean looking os)

OK well I installed the alsa-util package. Didn't help. BUt one other thing. I'm using the OSS es1371 module. Not the alsa snd-es1371 module. The Alsa module doesn't work with my card. And after installing the util package and resetting the sound vols with aumix but still muted. I've read and it's not so much aumix as ALSA itself mutes the sound. can on the command line I enter alsactl to work with it? I tried and nothing. This is quite annoying considering how well mandrake got this distro to work to have something basic like this cause a hangup.

What about just removing aumix altogether? Is it a required package?

OK, I've been in Debian World since New Years. I finally broke down and got a copy of Mandy 9.1 just to check it out. Looks nice. Don't notice any real performance improvements from my Mandy 8.2 install that it overwrote. Lots of changes that I had to work around.But I had a bugger of a time figuring out my sound (ES1371). I checked here and then from another post checked my aumix settings. Sure enough, the mute option was checked. Unchecked it and got my sound. Problem is it goes back to mute after reboot. I've saved it to the .aumixrc file but it still comes up muted on reboot. Is this a glitch or is there a work around? I can't find anything or any posts that list a fix for THIS problem.I doubt I'll do away with my Debian (for performance reasons) but this is a catch that can keep me from using this as an alternate boot. If this isn't fixed I'm considering actually killing the Mandrake partition and reclaiming it for more space for Debian. Any ideas?

considering the name of the company's founder.....Sam Walton.

Sorry Anon, Got LNO on the brain. I bounce between here, LNO, DebianHelp and LinuxJR and sometimes forget where I'm at. Myself, I'm not worried about the DISTRO going away. Even if the company goes under someone (GAEL????) WIll run with the source code and keep it going in some unofficial way, maybe like slackware. But I did some checking and what they are doing is similar to chapter 11 in America and not cccs. CCCS in america can't actually sell off your assets like the administrator in the french regulation/law can do. That's the key. I want to see them succeed myself so I have a reliable distro to point other converts to since I trust Mandrake in that aspect (even if Debian is my main distro of choice now). But they do have to work on their service/support/distribution (as in shipping) channels if they are going to succeed. Actually a buyout would worry me more. I'd hate to see the distro picked up by some company that doesn't know squat about doing Linux right and ruin or bury the distro.

Anon, no offense but isn't that what the link was for? And does it really need a new message linking back to this one? How many times have I heard newbs getting slammed for multi-posting? (Don't get your scruff up I'm not being caustic just being a mod and all....) But problem with this is that they have to cease some kind of operations while restructuring. A french finanical person might want to clarify how this actually works. I see this as not quite the death knoll but a definite kink in an already damaged chain. I just wonder what kind of NEW investment they'll be able to get. Prob not much from the user community until they prove themselves as viable.

They'd have to have a sterling silver review before I'd come back from Debian. I just moved the wife over last night and she was shocked at the lag time Mandrake had to the cleaner Debian boot up and speed. Personally I'd like them to succeed because their installer is the best and their setup tools are #1 but their service and distribution (as in shipping) channels need to be retooled. I dunno, my vote is still out. But in the States we've been seeing so many bankruptcies that are turning into death tolls (READ: KMart) this doesn't sound heartening. Thing is there's no mention on the home page or on Mandrake Forum but I see it on Slashdot.

Personally I always load my old Netscape 4.7 along with whatever mozilla I'm using. I use Mozilla for my regular web browsing/mail/news but use Netscape for web page editing. I find Mozilla's composer doesn't handle links too well. I build most of the page in Mozilla and switch to Netscape to handle the links. A little of a pain but it works. Hoping they can clean that up in the new release.

Not sure of the DSL side but I used to (NOTE: USED TO) be on SBC when they had Prodigy. As of Holoween I switched from them. For Dialup it was a similar story. I was told that you could get the settings from Yahoo and plug them into Linux. But you first need to install or register with their propriatory install program and it only loads on Windows. and you need IE to view the install info. So you can't even dail in in linux ppp. Since it needs IE. What a bite. If you have windows you can probably finangle it but why bother? Oh When I called tech services back in Oct. I called three times. First one ran me through a bunch of install info that was crap. Second asked me "What's Linux? Is that a new version of Windows XP?" :roll: Then the third one told me that there was no support for Linux whatsoever, by the tech supervisor. I asked is there any way to work around this and he said no. I said thanks and hung up and found a new isp.

Just from the look of your setup it appears that you have all the necessary emulation setup. But you need to change eroaster to look for scsi device 0,3,0 which your cdrecord -scanbus shows. Change the middle entry from 0 to 3 then check again.

Eh, I didn't actually lose any data. The one that went tits up I was using to test. I just got my cdrw working in linux recently and was using that cdrw disc to test. But it never worked. That's when I noticed the edges coming off. The other disc, the one I haven't used in a while wrote fine this time but I can see a spot where some of the edge is getting ready to come off. I've used these to make backups of my /usr and /home and was getting ready to backup my latest install so the stuff on these was old from before.

I just posted a sorriful tale on Linuxnewbie.org on the failure of the recordable media on a cd-rw. I think it's important enough I'm also letting y'all here know about it but my fingers are too tired to type the whole damn story again. So check it out here: http://www.linuxnewbie.org/forum/showthrea...&threadid=80387 Take a hard look at your cd-rw's.

Yeah, grip works ok but it's dog slow. I have a program (the last thing I use windows for) in my WIn95 box called Easy CD Ripper. Rips songs and converts them to mp3's in half the time grip does. I use that and have my two machines netowrked so I just pull them from the win box to my linux machine and burn from there. (now I have my cd rw in linux working good)

OK. I've got multi=session cd burning going. I finally found gcombust. It works great. It will burn and then let you add data after. I've already tested 2 cds. (accidentally finalized the first one on the second burn) And burning iso images is fine. Problem is that I'm having a bugger of a time creating audio cd's. I can't get any to copy cd-cd. probably because I don't have my hdd set to scsi emulation yet. I'll have to change that. But even if I have a pile of wav or mp3 files, I can't get them on the cd. I have burnt a cd worth of mp3 files once but it reads as a data cd full of mp3 files, not an audio cd with tracks. I even went to the basics and tried it with cdrecord at the cli and it gives me errors when trying to burn audio format. Data is no problem. So who out there has an idea or how do they do audio cd burning. I'm not stuck since I still have my Windows software to burn audio cd's but this is the last thing I need windows for. Since moving the cd-rw to the big box I'm even converting my back up machine to a debian box.

Has anyone got any program working in Mandy 8.2 that can do multisession cd burning. I have Xcdroast loaded. It works but the multisession option gives an error "not implemented yet". I'm looking into trying a newer version. I've tried gtoaster but whenever I try to select tracks to burn I get an error that "no recordable tracks read." and eroaster gives an error when I try to scan the cdrw and the cd reader "can not scan device scd*. Check that you have permission to read these devices" (or something along those lines.) No mandrake did an excelent job setting up my cdrw and cdrom together. And I have xcdroaster working and have burned a cd but it will only do disk at once since multisession isn't implemented yet. Fine for whole cd's but not if you make incremental additions to cd-r's. Haven't done cdrw's yet. So I'm looking to see if anyone has anything working that does multisession cd-r's or does anyone have gtoaster working (granted I'm using it in KDE and I don't have gnome loaded).

Doubt that's it. I have both Doom and DoomII full and neither has music. Sounds are fine just no music. No biggie but if it's there I want it to work.

I've got it in Debian but I only have the sound effects not the music. Does it all work fine for you. I'd like to get it in my Mandy 8.2. (Granted my Debian install is a little flaky on the sound, it works but it has quirks to it)

Now this is a new one to me. Haven't heard of this one. Is it on the Mandrake cd's? Already done the freshmeat and tucows route. That's where I found the link for krecord. But haven't found anything else good.

First post over here now. OK, Got 8.2 in a tri-boot with win3.1 (yes that's 3.1) and Debian Woody. One util that is a must-have for me in Debian is Krecord. Saving my old vinyl albums and need a good wav recorder. Problem is it's not included in Mandrake (and don't think even older versions ever were) And the source won't make and the only rpm is for connectiva which give unsolvable dependencies. SO... does anyone use another good wav recorder. The cli command record doesn't seem to be included in Mandy. Audacity seems a little bloated. and I really would like one that has an audio input meter similar to Krecord. so it would need a gui. Any ideas?