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That's what I thought. but I'm already in the process of installing so I'll have to do it next install. For now I'm working on a couple other issues. First I'm having a bugger of a time getting my sound settings to save on logout. Everytime I log in my settings revert to default which is very LOUD! Can't seem to get them to save. Also I'm working around the rpmdrake glitch. You can install once but then if you try again it complains about missing packages if you don't restart rpmdrake. Very annoying. But I'm working around this one.

Thanks Dude. I'll look into that for acrobat. But as far as the second link. I did that before. Yeah it worked. But it doesn't solve my question. I want to be able to install it on a system without internet connection. basically I want to be able to install it on my main box and then take my downloaded stuff over to the kids box. I can install from the dvd but it is missing a few things. I can get them from online (Like Kaffeine) but need a way to get it to their box. Gonna go now and reinstall from live. BBL

Doing some checking. Can't seem to find acrobat reader anywhere? Is there a repository where I can find it?

OK guys I'm back in the fold. Debian testing was just too bunked up. There were too many holes and internet performance was poor. A big deal breaker for me. Even the live cd. So I'm back. But it's been a while so be patient with me. I'm figuring a bit out on my own. But got a basic question. I test installed with the 2010 live cd. This went fine. but I installed on the main box with the 2010 free dvd. (I downloaded and burned) So I'm trying to set up my urmpi repositories. As a background. I left Mandriva at the just after 2005le. So I never really got into urpmi. I tried using the easy urpmi links above and even the cli command listed on that page. I can get plf repositories loaded but not the main repositories. An example I'm trying to load Kaffeine from PLF but it's hitting unmet dependencies from the main repository which I can't load. It keeps saying mirrorlist not found Could not find a mirror for mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST I don't have the firewall enabled because i'm behind a router. Could this be the issue. Or should I just reinstall with the 2010 live cd. I remember way back that the live cd was the best way to install because of something like this. Is this still the case. But if so that brings me to a second issue I WILL hit. If I want to also install on a second computer that is not internet enabled (kid's box across the house) How can I make the install save the downloaded packages so I can burn them to a cd and take them into the kids room for an install? This is one thing that kept me in Debian with old apt-move. created a local mirror on my machine I could burn and use as install media. Trying to set something up like that. But first need to fix the issue with the repositories.

OK OK, I have to capitulate to the penguin gods. I had a bad burn. Turns out the cd I was using was bad. I reburned and got the system up. I've got it test installed on a backup system. I have to admit that Mandriva is the only system I have KDe4 up on that works with any success. My old reliable Debian is piss poor. I know Squeeze is still in early testing but There are too many holes that need to be filled. And there are many programs that I rely on that just aren't included anymore. And Don't get me started with Kubuntu. I never liked the whole SUDO issue. I prefer a good root install. Especially with how finicky KDE4 is. But Mandriva 2010 is at least moderately usable. The biggest issue is that Mandriva is the ONLY distro I've seen with a working printer setup gui. And Debian won't even load on my old rage128 card. (my radeon crapped out 3 months ago). So I gotta say KDE4 in Mandriva is looking the most promising so far. I'm gonna do some more lurking here and see how others installs are going. if this is the future of Linux Debian is going to have to do some major fixes to keep me in the fold.

Well hey guys haven't been here in a while. I migrated back to Debian after Driva 2006. I have kept a copy of driva 1 2008 as a test and emergency and show-off live cd. I've been hearing a lot about KDE 4.3 being stable now and nice so I wanted to give 2010 a look. I downloaded the live cd. Good download. MD5 sums are good and burned it twice to cd. Both get the same result. Just after setting up numlock it comes to gl_conf setup. It hangs there. I can sometimes ctrl-c past it if I hit it immediately. And sometimes it will log in. If I do nothing it simply sits at that point and hangs so hard I have to push the reset button. I tried this on two systems. one had an older ATI card. One had an nvidia tnt2 card. Both same results. Sorry guys. Can't say I'll be coming back for now. Getting Debian testing setup now.

Hey brother. A possible idea. I have an older motherboard in my computer (big box but still) since it is older it doesn't use acpi which is default on in Mandriva. Instead I have to load the apm module and use acpi=off on boot. This way the system uses apm for power management issues, such as poweroff. maybe this is your issue too.

Well, not sure if it's help. Plug-ins for 1.5 won't work in 2.0. And many of the favorites for 1.5 haven't been rebuilt for 2.0 yet.

Gowater. I've always been more on the stability side than the bleeding edge. That's why I can handle Debian's older packages. If i need something recent I can find it and install it or upgrade it. But being on a lowly dailup it's painful to do a net install, or upgrade. And I'm not big on upgrades on my main system. I usually like to test distros out on my laptop (A toshiba 4080xcdt) with a backup hard drive. If it works on that it'll work on my other systems. So it works for me to have the acutal cd's. And I usually only go with stable cd's not testing. I didn't even get my Mandriva 2006 cd's until March. Aussie. I was wondering something. On my system irq 14 is reserved for the hard drive controller. If your irq 14 is being disabled could it be disabling your hard drive in the process? It could be a symptom of your firewire card but actually affecting the hd controller? I had an old sound card that did that in my 486 days.

I agree with Gowater. This just seems to be an ongoing, continuing problem with Mandr..whatever. Now I have been a Mandrake evagelist since 7.0. My first. And I converted a couple people on different versions. But I feel 10.0 was the last version I trusted. Granted it had issues with the printer driver for my Laserjet 5 but I could work around it. And I'm not big on bleeding edge but even I thought the packages were getting old. I tried 10.1 and it gave me problems. 2006 gave me a new set of problems. Too many to ignore. I ended up getting my 10.0 system back installed. Now I was hoping 2007 would resolve the issues I had in 2006 but it seems to bring on a whole new set of problems I am not willing to address. Now I was using Debian Woody when it came out and Mandrake 10.0 brought me back. And when Sarge came out I bought a cd set was labeled as 3.1 but was actually rc1 (unstable branch of Sarge). So I din't jump on it. But I monkeyed with it enough and have only one small glitch I can get around. And it works a hell of a lot better than 2006. I'm now looking forward to Etch coming out. And some might not use it as a reason but I was a little cheesed to see the big brains at Mandriva sack the system's founder, Gael. This just reeks of when Mandrake tried to turn the company into an educational resource, or whatever. Loss of vision is my point. Though I'll still tout MDK for their hardware recognition I still think there are too many problems to ignore anymore and have given up again, and this time maybe permanently on Mandr....

Yeah I know of all the issuse stated here. I read up on Ati not supporting the 9xxx series in their driver. I downloaded the previous version as they instructed. I know of the difference between 10.0 and 10.1 and up with regards to xfree86 and xorg. But this gives me a Microsoft feeling, that you need to upgrade your hardware to get similar performance. When I set my stuff up I use the same settings. I shouldn't have to downgrade my color settings to get the same performance. And what's the use of ATI putting out propriatory drivers if the performance goes in the toilet?

Since I had so much problems with Mandriva 2006 I reverted back to 10.0. Now I still have to deal with 10.0's poor printer performance on my HP Laserjet. But that small hangup is short change compared to the problems that 2006 gave me. But one I am stumped on is my 3d performance. Using 10.0's standard setup using the fglrx driver with 3d accelleration on my Radeon 9000 I can get 894 fps. Now I've tried Debian by itself and it get's the same performance of Mandriva 2006, roughly 450 fps. About half what 10.0 gave me. And if I use ati's propriatory driver, I'm lucky to get 100 fps. WHAT Gives? I mean, you'd expect ati's driver to give the optimum performance. Nope, Even if I use the xf86config file originally from 10.0. I also noticed a similar reduction in performance from 10.0 to 2006 with my Rage 128 on the backup machine. I could get 400 fps with 10.0 and only around 150 fps in 2006. Seems like 10.0's base system was a better performer. Has anyone else running a Radeon 9000 seen anything similar and/or have a work around. On a side note I've been reading a lot on 2007's problems with 3d and I'm now leary of giving it a go. I'm keeping a keen eye on the erata and other bug reports before I decide to try it. Debian Sarge wasn't up to snuff either and I'm wondering if I'm going to have to try etch instead. But I'm concerned my 3d will never get the performance 10.0 gave it.

Of course Doom and Doom 2 Pacman (I have an awesome clone on my pc) Then there's Myst,Riven and Exile (Totally addicted) and Starcraft and Brood War. And to an extent Warcraft II but not as much as starcraft. And back to the old days with Good old LodeRunner

I have the same card running on 10.0. I have no problems. Can you see the card in harddrake? During boot up do you use the verbose boot and can you see it initializing eth0? I simply use the network setup tool in MCC to setup the nic. Maybe put it in another pci slot?

As I've said I've tried all kinds of options. I've got plenty of space (7g) in /tmp and (4.5g) in /home/cage/tmp. That's not the problem. As far as 2007. I'm looking forward to it. But being on a lowly dialup, upgrading over the internet is painful. Not only that I ususally like to test a new distro on my backup system before I commit it to the main box. I don't like to upgrade my main system until I know the new os is working (which is why I never put debian sarge on it). So there is no fix to the problem in 2006? no update of just k3b or anyone fixing it?

I've been doing some searches. Haven't seen anything on this here. But on linuxquestions I found the same question without any solutions. In Driva 2006, I have K3B installed. It's worked fine for me up to now burning my backup cd's and my music cd's. No problem. But when I click on copy cd tab the "start" button is greyed out and unclickable. Even when I click "make image only". Nothing I do, change any setting so change any permissions. No difference. It won't make and iso image of a cd. This is a pisser as I was getting ready to convert my dad but can't make copies of my 2006 cd's. Now I've still got 10.0 installed on the living room computer and k3b installed there makes iso images no problem. Now I've also tried eroaster (my old burner standby) but can't find a setting to make an iso image. So in 2006 this is a bust. I don't think my dad will need to make copies like that but it's one more minor hangup that really makes me question the use of 2006 as my conversion model and maybe sticking with 10.0. But that has issues with printer drivers. And usb. So would rather try to get k3b fixed in 2006. Anyone also have this or have a solution?

I don't think they fubared it. They used a development release instead of the stable release for intel compatibility. That would have been fine for Cooker but not for the main release. Because you'd expect to futz with stuff like that in cooker.

I've over all been pleased with Mandrake/Mandriva since 7.0. Not every version but overal. But I was disappointed with Mandriva's choice of packages this time around. Kat, totally useless. Xorg....nuff said. Grip is a development release that crashes. And then there's KSCD. I don't know about anyone else but my kscd was chopping off the first few seconds of any track. Any disk, didn't matter. And no setting changes made a difference. So I went on to my old standby rpmfind and did a search for kscd. I found listed kscd for kde 3.4 from the official KDE site. in rpm. I downloaded it and sure enough, problem solved, works like usual. Now I had to create a sim link to /usr/bin and then a menu entry but other than that no biggie. Now I don't have a problem with legwork to make something work, but for a distro as polished as MD something like this should be unneccessary. I didn't have to do this with 10.0 (which was the last version I trusted enough to keep on my machine). I've also found that rpms from rpmfind, especially for Suse work well for fixing most MD problems. Or add to programs that are missing. I am still stymied at the developers at KDE for dumping simple krecord for the assinine krec which needs you to jump hoops and wrangle with other programs just to make a simple recording. krecord did this and also had a volume level indiator tab to guage the volume of the sound recording so it wouldn't base-out. With krec or audacity you had to set it ahead of time and hope it was right. Again I went to rpmfind and found an rpm from Suse 10 for krecord and it installed perfectly. Easier than krec and less of a resource hog than audacity. Now all I need is rpms for xgalaga and xmorph that will work. I only wish Debian was up to snuff. But I wasn't pleased with Sarge and stuck with MD. [moved from Software by spinynorman]

I was trying to move away from Winbloze since 95 came out. I was fooling around with OS/2 3.0 when I first heard of Linux (In a dilbert cartoon) I did a search on the Library computer and found what it was. I cut my teeth on debian loaded from floppies since I didn't have a workable cd rom (in 98). I then upgraded my old 486 DX4 to a 450 mhz AMD on a via chipset mobo. It gave me all kinds of hell with Win95 and WAS NOT going to 98 (though I use it now for games). There were problems with the pci bridge that you needed to load a patch driver. But after some time the patch would get botched-bunged up, something, and the computer would flake out and I would have to reformat. Usually lasted 1.5 months. I got cd's for Corel and Mandrake 7.0. Corel looked nice but didn't like my old Sound Blaster and couldnt' get my modem to work. Mandy went in and I was off and after one good weekend of tinkering and two more reinstalls to experiment I converted all my data over and have been running Linux ever since. Went to Debian woody when itcame out and came back for Mandy 10.0. I've now got 3 older computers (including my laptop) dualbooting W98 and Mandy 10.0 and the big box dualbooting W98 and Mandriva2006PowerPack. Almost went to Debian Sarge but no longer have the time to tinker and "just want it to work".

Also, you might want to delete you old user dir's like .kde. I find that there are changes that might not carry over. Like differences in sounds if you use them, backgrounds and other settings. Save your data but delete the program dirs. Just save your .mozilla and .thunderbird directories if you use them.

Or go on rpmfind and do a search for krecord. Not that piece of crap krec that is in 2006 and has been for a while. The good old krecord can befound. I downloaded the latest SUSE 10 rpm and it installed perfectly. And runs as good as it ever did. Smooth simple and functional. Has good volume input level indicator also. So you can monitor the sound on the fly. Audacity is good if you need to edit the sound file but to record krecord is better, faster, easier.

Yeap null modem is possible. You can make one with a serial patch cable buy cutting it over and crossing the right wires. Or you could install winzip into it and create zips that span disks on floppies. I did that back in the days for large backups. If you really want that data now this would be your fastest route. Just have enough floppies.

I'm with Ix. My first full-use distro was Mandy 7.0. Still have my cd from cheap bytes out of nostalgia. But my very first was debian slink. That was my teacher. I learned the boot loader and file system and users and permissions fiddling with my cli only install. I had a rudimentary x11 installed also but no window manager. I chose that because I didn't have a cd rom I could rely on and just went with floppy install. I then got Corel 1.0 but it didn't like my sound card. But it was enough to make me realize this was my answer to windows' failures. I got mandy the same order with Corel and tried it next. I was in love. That's why I feel a little peeved at how they've handled recent releases. 7.0 just worked. Oh, I first HEARD about linux in a Dilbert cartoon. Dil was listening to his mother rant how she was going to email Bill Gates from her Linux box. I was testing OS/2 3.0 at the time and was curious what Linux was. Took me another year to look into it. I used unix on the SU campus and if I had known what it was I would have tried it sooner.

I'm running Mandy 10.0 and it loaded fine and ran fine. no viruses and it even scanned my windows drive (not that that is connected to the outside world) Gonna try it on the laptop next.

I preferred having the ability to make the single entry menu item. If I wanted to move the entry up a level it should be my choice. Not some arbitrary decision by the software. When I was running Debian Woody I had a similar problem with menu changes getting switched back. I would edit the default menu items and saved them in another directory and then I had a script I would run after updates to put the menus back to the way I wanted. But I don't even know where mandriva is storing their default menu. I could change it there.