RainierPeak

actually it does....sorta. Say you're boot/kernel parameter for an os named linux has devfs=mount acpi=on hdd=ide-scsi in lilo.conf. At the lilo screen, press Esc>and type linux acpi=off and lilo will pass to the kernel devfs=mount acpi=off hdd=ide-scsi It's not nears as nice and convenient as grub though, and yes, the best part of grub over lilo is not having to run anything for the changes to take effect. Just edit from any distro and you're done. I also agree that it's much easier to understand once you learn how it numbers partitions. Very interesting indeed; you learn something new about open-source software everyday. :) As you say, though, GRUB still rocks in comparison.

When playing around with Linux distributions (even the non-Linux FreeBSD!) before settling on Mandrake and Librabet, I had to change the boot-loader configuration a lot. This means only one thing: GRUB. LILO's syntax (to me at least) is a lot more confusing, and it doesn't have its own builtin command line or the ability to change configurations before booting. And to boot, you have to rerun /sbin/lilo anytime anything changes. Hence, GRUB.

Thanks for your suggestions, kde-head, but I don't think they really address the problem. AFAIK, all of the downloads completed before 3.2 went official, so it should really be 3.1.5; I could start over again and do 3.2 if it would help, though. (Although if I do that I hope that 3.2.0 is stable enough! I don't have that much disk space and plan to delete 3.1.3 when I know that the new version is working.) Any talk of duel-booting and such is premature until it at least compiles! --Mike Mandrake 9.2, Libranet 2.8, Win98SE, Win2K

Hi! I'm using konstruct to upgrade to KDE 3.1.5 (I figure I'll wait a while before upgrading to the newly minted 3.2). Unfortunately, I've run into a snag. So, two questions: 1) Is using konstruct a good way to get the new version of KDE on Mandrake 9.2 in the first place without messing 'drake's view of things up? 2) Given the compilation errors below, what's going wrong? Do I need another dependency, or a newer version of something (I just downloaded the version of the cdparanoia library from urpmi; do I need CVS?), or am I just doing something wrong? Here is the end of the compilation log (from 'make install'): make[5]: Entering directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia/work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5/kaudiocreator' /bin/sh ../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX g++ -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Wno-long-long -Wundef -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -I/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/include -I/usr/lib/qt3//include -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -I/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/include -I/usr/lib/qt3//include -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -O2 -pipe -O2 -pipe -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -L/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -L/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/lib/qt3//lib -o kaudiocreator -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -R /home/rainierpeak/build/kde3.1.5/lib -R /usr/X11R6/lib kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o -lkio kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x72bf): In function `my_last_sector(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_lastsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x8056): In function `CdConfigImp::initRequest(KURL const&)': : undefined reference to `cdda_open' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x88b3): In function `CdConfigImp::get_discid(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_disc_firstsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x890d): In function `CdConfigImp::get_discid(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_firstsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x899b): In function `CdConfigImp::updateCD(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_tracks' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x8a8e): In function `CdConfigImp::updateCD(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_firstsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x8ae5): In function `CdConfigImp::updateCD(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_audiop' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x8b4d): In function `CdConfigImp::updateCD(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_disc_firstsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x9071): In function `CdConfigImp::updateCD(cdrom_drive*)': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_audiop' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x9209): In function `CdConfigImp::attemptToListAlbum()': : undefined reference to `cdda_open' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x93e5): In function `CdConfigImp::attemptToListAlbum()': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_lastsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x93f3): In function `CdConfigImp::attemptToListAlbum()': : undefined reference to `cdda_track_firstsector' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x94b3): In function `CdConfigImp::attemptToListAlbum()': : undefined reference to `cdda_close' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x95fa): In function `CdConfigImp::pickDrive()': : undefined reference to `cdda_find_a_cdrom' kaudiocreator.all_cpp.o(.text+0x962a): In function `CdConfigImp::pickDrive()': : undefined reference to `cdda_identify' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[5]: *** [kaudiocreator] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia/work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5/kaudiocreator' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia/work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5/kaudiocreator' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia/work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5' make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia/work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5' make[1]: *** [build-work/kdemultimedia-3.1.5/Makefile] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rainierpeak/konstruct/kde/kdemultimedia' make: *** [dep-../../kde/kdemultimedia] Error 2 [rainierpeak@localhost kde]# Thanks a bundle for any help! --Mike Mandrake 9.2, Libranet 2.8, Win98SE, Win2K

One more idea (if you haven't solved it yourself yet): Assuming you're talking about the download edition and not the PowerPack, and you have a high-speed Internet connection (that or a lot of patience!), then you can just download network.img from any of the servers, use rawwritewin on Windows or dd on Linux to write the image to a floppy, and then install directly from the Internet. That's what I did to install 'drake 9.2, as my CD-burner couldn't handle the second CD (it thought it was too big). I just let it run all night, and I had a working Mandrake Linux 9.2 system in the morning. --Mike Mandrake 9.2, Libranet 2.8, Win98SE, Win2K

Just wanted to confirm that I have the same, weird issue.

Nah; when it wasn't working as a startup script, out of desperation I tried the only thing I could think of: su'ing to root and running /usr/bin/tpconfig directly (which led to the error message I described in my first message), most likely just as you thought when I first mentioned it. What I was trying to say was that neither method (startup script or running directly) seemed to be working, and what went wrong with each (i.e.: nothing at all happening with the former, and the error message with the latter). Sorry for the confusion! So any ideas? Thanks!

You're correct that you're supposed to run it from a startup script. The installer (whether RPM or 'make install') does that for you automatically. Sure enough, /usr/bin/tpconfig exists, the startup script was installed to /etc/rc.d/init.d/touchpad, and there are links to it in the startup directories for runlevels 3 and 5 (/etc/rc.d/rc3.d and /etc/rc.d/rc5.d, respectively), exactly how they should be. Yet it's never being run during startup. I even tried rerunning /sbin/lilo to no avail (big surprise there). Any ideas why a seemingly valid startup script isn't running? --Mike

Hi! A while back (seems like it at least!), I tried Mandrake 9.1, which worked alright overall but was still a bit awkward to use, at least in terms of SuperMount. Now I'm using 9.2 and delighted to say that SuperMount works like a charm, and the sound works flawlessy, so I finally have a Linux distro that I can use for all my multimedia needs! Thanks MandrakeSoft! (Now if only a halfways decent jukebox [i.e.: RealJukebox or iTunes, but open-source] that didn't crash every 5 seconds [e.g: JuK] were available...) Anyway, the one big problem I have now is with the dang touchpad of my Dell Inspiron. It seems to 'click' all the time when I don't want it to. On Libranet I just installed 'tpconfig' (courtesy of apt-get) and it worked perfectly, but tpconfig seems to have no effect here. When I try running it as root, it says: Timed out waiting to read from device (is pc_keyb.c kernel patch installed?) Does this mean I have to recompile the kernel to get it to work? Has anybody installed tpconfig successfully on 9.2? Is there any other way to stop to stop the annoying tap-mode of the touchpad? Thanks! --Mike Mandrake Linux 9.2, Libranet Linux 2,8, Win98SE, Win2K