hmm thanks for all the informations so far. though i have to report some stuff. i don't realy have a credit card and that rules out places like pricewatch. the only one with cridit card in this house is too parinoid to use it at all on internet only sites. so that limits me to brick and mortor stores. so i found a couple of new candates.
there both from best buy but there the cheapest they have.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?j=...goryId=cat01174
even though it is a emachine i do like the wide screen. the intel graphics chipset kind of worrys me cause i have read that linux and intel intergrated graphics don't mix to well.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id...goryId=cat01174
this is there cheapest laptop