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OK, update time (this thread is starting to look like my own personal Mandrake 10.0 blog :D , hey , someone might find it useful). Seems the freeze-ups and system slowdowns are due to a lack of memory. I only have 256 MB installed, so I guess its bound to happen. I turned off a few services I don't need and that seems to be helping out a bit. I'll have to install some more and see if that speeds things up. I have a pretty decent size swap partition, though, so I would think that even though I only have 256 MB of RAM, this still wouldn't happen. I'll lay out a few specs here in case anyone else is having similar problems on the same hardware, it could be a driver issue or something slowing down the system bus. Athlon Thunderbird 1600 MSI K7T Turbo Mobo 256 MB PC-133 NVIDIA TNT2-64 32 MB vid card Linksys Etherfast 10/100 network card Maxtor 40 GB 7200 RPM HD I know this isn't exactly the fastest rig, but should be sufficient without locking up I think. It usually acts fine, but if I were to say, work on a picture in the gimp while looking at a website and listening to an mp3, it will surely run out of memory and freeze up. Under 9.2 this was never a problem. Any ideas anybody (besides the obvious, install more RAM, haha)?

I've seen this problem too. I even had it happen quite often with 9.2 before switching to 10.0. My recommendation is to find some servers that work for you and stick with them. I really have no idea what the problem is exactly, but I don't think it is necessarily a problem with the servers. I would say it is most likely a problem with the way urpmi rebuilds the synthesis files. I don't have the problem when using MCC though to update. Actually, there really isn't a need to update all of your sources that I know of, just the update (unless of course your running cooker). I could be wrong, but I believe that once the main and contrib sources are written, they don't change until the next version. My recommendation: just update your distro through MCC and all should be well.

Okay, it's been a few days since my upgrade. Here's the scoop. All in all, it went pretty well. No major problems. The one thing I will say is that when you are upgrading, pay attention if any packages did not install correctly. Most notably, the KDE PIM packages. When they made the switch from the separate programs to Kontact, a lot of the RPMs aren't compatible. The best thing to do is to figure out which ones are causing the problems and uninstall them. Then just keep running "urpmi --auto --auto-select" until all goes well. I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.3-8 and it booted back up just fine, right into my desktop and almost all of my settings were still intact. Installed the latest NVIDIA drivers for my TNT2 (tip: make sure you have your kernel-source package before doing so) and that went flawlessly. OpenGL works great which is a feat I couldn't manage before going to 10.0 OE. I did have to install rpmdrake seperately, although I'm not exactly certain why that wasn't upgraded with the auto-select packages. Now for the oddities (which are few). Konqueror hangs up, plain and simple. It doesn't do it all the time, but it is definitely buggy. My accounts in Kmail got a little screwed up, but it kept all of my message rules and folders, etc., so no big deal. The fonts are a little weird. I don't know if there is something wrong with my anti-aliasing or if its just different fonts that I'm not used to. Some of the characters get shaped a little funny and the spacing is off sometimes, but this is a problem I had from time to time with 9.2 also, so its probably just KDE. Also, the taskbar popup messages stay up until you run the cursor through the taskbar to get rid of them. Otherwise, my desktop gets slowed down from time to time, sometimes locking up completely, but I think this has something to do with Konqueror. This does sound like a lot of problems, but all things considered (especially the way I upgraded), I think it went amazingly well. Overall, the system seems to run a lot faster on the new kernel, and most of the problems I've noticed can probably be attributed to KDE. I haven't checked out any other window managers yet, but I will do so soon to see if any of the bugs can be reproduced on another desktop. To anyone who wants to upgrade in this manner: just make sure you have a pretty good knowledge of using urpmi from the command prompt. Pretty much any problems I had to fix could be taken care of by fiddling with adding and removing packages. As long as you've got that down, I can testify that it does work with pretty satisfying results. It took a while to upgrade, but I did it in a Konsole window while I continued to use the computer and it didn't cause any conflicts. If anyone else tries this and has any trouble, feel free to post it up here and I'll do my best to help out. Also, if anyone knows what is up with the popup messages on my taskbar or Konqueror locking up, please let me know.

Ok, all done! Here's a somewhat detailed account of my experience. During the upgrade, I got a few warnings about packages that weren't installed. Since I knew this was due to server problems, I changed my urpmi sources to another server and ran urpmi --auto --auto-select again and got a bit further than the first time. I had to remove the kdesdk package to solve a conflict with an icon, then ran the install again and things went well. After that, I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.3.8 and rebooted. The reboot stalled, so I switched to a console and entered shutdown -r now and it rebooted. Went throught the bootup, loaded right into my desktop and all is pretty good. My system font is a bit screweed up (manageable), I can't get my gui rpm programs working, and the menu editor seems to be out of commission, but otherwise, it went pretty well! :D I'll get the few bugs out and report back when everything is back to normal. All in all, no major problems, and it even kept the rest of my settings from before. Oh yeah, and it runs FAST now!!! I don't recommend this type of upgrade for total newbies, but if you have a pretty good idea of what you're doing, I say go for it! It didn't hose my system and I didn't lose any data at all.10.0 official rocks!!!

AMD all the way! Yes, I've heard good things about Centrino, but as I don't have a notebook, I can't really comment on that. I will say that for my money, AMD is the only way to fly. The problem is public ignorance, although not necessarily their fault. Intel has always had AMD beat in the advertising game. It's not that there is anything inherently wrong with their processors, its just why would you waste your money on a Pentium anything when you can get a faster Athlon for less. It's simple economics.

Ok, here's an interesting question. Some of the rpms weren't downloaded because of an Anonymous Access Denied error. It only happens sometimes. Is there a way to find out which packages didn't download?

That's cool. I was just wondering if there were any specific things I should be doing that I might not know about, even though I know doing it this way is kind of frowned upon. I've been using 100% linux for about a year and wouldn't dream of switching back to windows. At least the latest round of viruses keeps me in business with repairs. :D I've gotten a few errors in the upgrade so far, but it doesn't look like anything major. Seems to be trucking along pretty well. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks for the replies! I've been debating about it for a while and about 20 minutes ago decided to bite the bullet and do it the taboo way, urpmi. I backed up my important stuff and have my 9.2 cds handy just in case, but I figured it was worth giving it a try and see what happens. At least everyone else will know. :P Ideally, I think they should come up with a way to do it that way without problems (maybe even a handy gui tool) so you can just be like, hey!, new version, time for an upgrade. How cool would that be? I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. If I can at least get it running and hopefully back to a desktop, I can patch it up from there.

Oh yeah, I guess I should throw in a few details too. :P Nothing too fancy about the machine; Athlon Thunderbird 1600, only thing that might get a little tricky is the TNT2 video card. I know there are some quirky things about the NVIDIA drivers, so any help on making sure I'm getting a decent driver would be much appreciated. Thanks!!!

I've seen a few other similar topics floating around here, but none that really answer my questions. I have a fully functional 9.2 install and I'm ready to go to 10. What I would like to do is a full upgrade, including urpmi, kernel, the whole deal. I don't have Windows on my machine, it's all linux. I once upgraded to cooker (and cooked my install too), but I don't remember exactly how I did it. I've been using Mandrake for almost a year, so I'm pretty familiar with what I'm doing, but I just want to make sure I don't screw it up. I have no trouble adding sources and so forth, I'm just not sure what all I need to do to make certain that everything is upgraded. Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide. :D

The machine that I'm running Mandrake on dual-boots Win98 and Mandrake, and never has any network problems under Win98. The problem with the network connection didn't start until I upgraded to the cooker build, so I doubt the NIC is the problem. Since then, I've upgraded to 9.2rc2 and the problem is still there. There seems to be no pattern to it either. It can stay on the network for 12 hours or 12 seconds, it just depends. My IP addresses are given out from the router, and I've checked to make sure that both of my machines are not sharing an IP address. Also, the IP for my Mandrake machine is on an infinite lease. When the problem occurs, I go into the Control Center and it says that the network card is up and has an IP address, but is not connected. As far as Samba goes, I understand that I lose Samba when I go off the network, but after reconnecting and restarting SMB, it still won't reestablish a connection with the win98 machine. This is really strange, and it seems as though everything should be working properly.

Just upgraded my 9.1 setup to the latest cooker build. A few minor oddities aside, everything seems to be working great. The one thing I can't figure out, however, is why I keep falling off the network. I've got a linksys tulip card connected to a SpeedStream dsl modem / router. There is also an old Win98 machine on the network. My internet connection works fine, but drops every once in a while for no apparent reason. All I have to do is go into the Control Center and restart it, but it is a hassle and quite inconvenient. When this happens, my Samba connection to the win98 machine (which only works intermittently anyway) drops too. Any idea what's going on?