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OK I give up.......

 

All I want to do is to make a rescue floppy.

 

That ought to be pretty simple.

 

Please don't send me out to Search, I have done that for

months, and I have read all of it three times. I am a

novice at Linux, but I have been using Unix for years

(very little sysadmin tho'). So, I can understand instructions

in unix-speak.

 

Here is what I have tried:

 

I made a "Rescue Floppy" at install time. But since I am using

9.1, the bug in the MCC made a floppy that does not work.

 

OK fine.

 

So I searched and got vectored off to the bootdisk-HOWTO

document which has 52 pages of stuff to do...... starting with

building a kernel. I read it, I understood most of it, but

I really do not have time to do that right

now (someday maybe after I get some more time under my

belt on this thing) I just want to make a rescue floppy.

 

OK fine.

 

Another source told me to update MCC and that

will get rid of the bug. Just how is that done? I went to the

Control Center and I clicked Software=>Update, and my

computer went off into internet Hell downloading "something"

(it doesn't say what) and cannot be cancelled. Thirty

minutes later I had to hang up on it. Just what is

it doing? How do I get this update?

(I hate fnWizards!).

 

OK fine.

 

So I went out to the mirrors for the Mandrake CC updates and I

was faced with a huge number of packages to download

with no real indication (at least to my ignorant eyes) of which

ones I need to fix this bug. The page says it is better to do this

"automatically" using the MCC, but........... how?....................

...where?...................didn't I just try that trick?

 

OK fine.

 

I searched out minimal floppy systems on the net, but

the docs on them are so vague that I have no idea

whether or not they will work on my system (I have

ext3 file system.... most of them tout ext2.......... will I

be able to mount my hard disk using them?....)

 

OK fine.

 

End of rant.

 

So here are my specific questions.

 

1). How exactly do I get this MCC update so that I can

make a rescue floppy? I suppose that is the cleanest

approach. I am on a modem, so terabyte downloads

are not going to work for me.

 

.........or................

 

2). Where can I find a rescue image that I can be fairly

well assured will work with Mandy 9.1 and my ext3 files?

I don't want to damage my system messing around with

outdated stuff. One page said that Mandrake has such

an image on its download page, but I can't find it.

 

3). What the heck is MCC downloading when I click on

the Update tool?

 

Thanks in advance to all the great folks on this

board. Sorry for the rant, but I am sooooo confused..

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

 

P.S. My goal is to learn enough so that I can answer

these questions for other folks....................but for right

now......... HELP!.......

 

:shock:

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Mandrake Control Center>Software Management>Mandrake Update

 

Then it'll download for a long time (dialup) an updated source list of available pkgs for you currently installed software. No diff that Windows Update. When it is done, you will get a list of available updates. Choose the ones you want and Install. Which one's for MCC? Look for the drak stuff.

drakconf

draktools

etc....

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Dialup can be a pain when you need a HUGE pile of updates! Sure relate to the frustration of the learning curve when you add in slow connection.

 

To avoid the delays and hassle of long downloads, I use a cd service in SE Asia but I have not used one in USA. May I suggest that you either find someone with broadband to burn you a CD of the updates/patches or buy one from a service. Here's one I found that sells the 9.1 update CD Rom http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/c...dtl/product/155

 

For $1.50 you can update from the CD and avoid the internet traffic jam and not tie up your phone for HOURS downloading. We can help you setup your mdk update to use the cd to update rather than internet connection. That part is relatively easy.

 

There are several options if you google with keywords: linux cdrom cheap you can browse and find one. This one even sells Mdk 9.2 rc2 so it is very up to date!

 

In the meantime, you can always boot with CD1 and do some rescue things. Better yet, get Knoppix CD and it will boot and let you work on probems too. I don't rely on floppy boot rescue much anymore.

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Thanks.

 

I guess I was on the right track. Maybe I will try

again some other time when I have more time to wait.

 

If I could just find a rescue image that I could dd to

the floppy this would be a lot easier.

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

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Kmack,

 

Thanks for the links.

Maybe the CD is the way to go.

 

I suppose this old dog is still stuck in the past

with floppies and all. Can't fit much on one of

those things any more.

 

I will check it out.

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

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http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/system/re...ery/!INDEX.html

 

If all you want to do is be able to boot your box if the boot sector is hosed. You should be able to do that with most any Linux boot floppy.

 

You'll get a lot faster boot with the CD1. At the boot splash, instead of hitting Enter to install, hit F1 to go to a prompt. You can boot your box, or type "rescue" and hit enter to go to the rescue scripts.

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If you have a bootable Cd its much easier....

On the ext3 stuff. Youm can mount an ext3 as ext2 in an emergency, it just turns off the journaling etc. and you need to fsck it when you get it running again.

 

Im just guessing but if you go to install CD 1 you have a directory with images .... you just dd that to the floppy (the one called floppy obviously).

But this gives you a minimal bootable kernel and not much tools !!

 

The CD is the way to go.... its so long since the time before last I did this that last time (for an old P100) I went through the same stuff as you! If you can use a bootable CD then Id stick with it otherwise you can dump your partition table and keep a copy on a couple of partitions and backed up to CD, just in case!

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Thanks to all for the help.

 

I do have a system which will boot from

the CD.

 

So after all of this, it appears that the solution

was at my fingertips all along. But I also learned

a heck of a lot about how Linux boots while I was

researching this. 8)

 

Banjo

(_)=='=~

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