Guest ions Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 I was having problems with KDE as seen here: http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=6241 So I thought I'd try Gnome. My needs are really simple - I pretty much use the machine for media and web. That's all. So I want simple and not bloated. Running in Gnome was slow but I'm thinking that maybe I was running a KDE instance in the background if that's possible. My other gripes with Gnome include: The inability to delete the icons for my floppy drive and cd rom on the desktop. Apparently I don't have permission to remove icons off of my own desktop. I was unable to drag and drop the Home icon to my quick launch bar. Doing so created a window asking for the new quicklaunch button to be configured. How intuitive. I deleted the system tray by accident, I thought I was deleting the multiple desktop launch bar, and I can't figure out how to get it back The default file manager blows. It crashed on me several times. If it's possible to make it remember that I want to use the tree view everytime I open it I can't find it. Slow. Very slow. Did I mention how slow it was? Maybe if I log directly into Gnome instead of having to log off of KDE into Gnome would solve this? It's much slower than KDE as it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooYah Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 That's strange. I thought gnome was faster than KDE, for me. It's probably pretty safe to say that gnome isn't as "user friendly" as KDE and requires a bit more configuration. However they're both bloated resource hogs. On your Mandrake CD's you should have a few other window managers to try: IceWM, Sawfish, and Enlightenment. I never really got around to giving them a fair try, so I can't say anything about their ease of configuration, although Eterm is awesome. I've been using Fluxbox for a while, and I just haven't felt a need to try anything else out. The only thing I miss from KDE is kprinter (hint, hint, qnr). A clipboard applet would be nice too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyme Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 ions: some of your issues in gnome may stem from something else. check /etc/hosts (it's a file) and make sure your IP (not localhost) is associated with whatever name you gave your computer (i.e. riesling.prajna.net - name of my system). this can slow things down. as for your other issues with icons, run gconf-editor and search around a bit. you may find a setting in there that will solve your woes. but be careful, you could mess things up ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 ions: some of your issues in gnome may stem from something else. check /etc/hosts (it's a file) and make sure your IP (not localhost) is associated with whatever name you gave your computer (i.e. riesling.prajna.net - name of my system). this can slow things down. as for your other issues with icons, run gconf-editor and search around a bit. you may find a setting in there that will solve your woes. but be careful, you could mess things up ;-) I can't find etc/hosts :(. Can I set it so I'm asked at startup if I want to start in Gnome or KDE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I think there's a way in the boot section of MCC to change your default WM/DE. If not, you can always use kdm/gdm/xdm/mdkkdm for graphical boot. You should be able to choose from a list within that which one you want to log into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Here's a Gnome startup error I'm having: Could not look up internet address for x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16. This will prevent Gnome from operating correctly. It may be possible to correct the problem by adding x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16 to the file /etc/hosts. So it would appear that it does have to do with /etc/hosts. Could this be the reason of the poor performance? Still have no clue how to get into that file. : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bjc Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 If you're looking for low bloat, fast starting desktop, try icewm. You can configure the bottom bar entries by editing "toolbar" file in /usr/lib/X11/icewm. I found myself that Gnome is faster than KDE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Alright so I found the file - I was looking for a directory. I open the file using Nautilus and all it displays is: 127.0.0.1 localhost Do I just paste in the above string that Gnome claims is missing? On a new line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I'm assuming that x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16 is what you see when you open a console and type hostname If that is the case, then you can change 127.0.0.1 localhost to 127.0.0.1 x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16 I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 I'm assuming that x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16 is what you see when you open a console and type hostname If that is the case, then you can change 127.0.0.1 localhost to 127.0.0.1 x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-16 I'm guessing. Nope, when I type hostname in a console I get this: x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-f6 :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidzoo Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Did you try Steve's suggestion, replacing the 'localhost' in /etc/hosts with the output of hostname? You can also go to MCC and run the network config tool in expert mode to set the hostname to whatever you want instead of tht address. Might be easier for you. It certainly is easier for me to do it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Did you try Steve's suggestion, replacing the 'localhost' in /etc/hosts with the output of hostname? You can also go to MCC and run the network config tool in expert mode to set the hostname to whatever you want instead of tht address. Might be easier for you. It certainly is easier for me to do it that way. Well I haven't tried it yet because the error I'm getting is different that the output of hostname. About using MCC, Mandrake Control Center right?, to change the hostname. I can change the hostname to anything I like or is there a format I need to follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Whoa. Is your computer a network server or client? That looks like a MAC address. Do you see the one mentioned in the error if you do ifconfig as root? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 About using MCC, Mandrake Control Center right?, to change the hostname. I can change the hostname to anything I like or is there a format I need to follow? You can change it to anything you want, but certain applications like it to be a fully qualified domain name like omar.serenity or omar.serenity.home. In etc.hosts, you can enter a shortened name for it, like this 127.0.0.1 omar.serenity.home omar or in my case: 192.168.0.1 omar.serenity.home omar I think I'm right, but I've been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ions Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Probably asking for trouble by posting my IP but here we go... [root@x1-6-00-80-c8-dd-4c-f6 root]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:1F:A1:56 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:2836 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:435923 (425.7 Kb) Interrupt:10 Base address:0xcc00 eth0:9 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:1F:A1:56 inet addr:169.254.6.61 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xcc00 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:80:C8:DD:4C:F6 inet addr:(edited) Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.252.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:216972 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:15628 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:29 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:18829599 (17.9 Mb) TX bytes:3462126 (3.3 Mb) Interrupt:12 Base address:0xd000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:470 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:470 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:45432 (44.3 Kb) TX bytes:45432 (44.3 Kb) I'm not using a mac. This machine does have a cable modem which I wish to share with an XP machine but I've yet to be successful in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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