Guest mandrivanewboy Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I added the 2006 main, contrib & updates sources to my 10.2 (2005 LE) package manager, as it implied this was ok on the easy urpmi site I cut n paste from. Should I have done this??? I assumed this would mean that my packages would be upgraded to the latest versions. It worked for firefox - my browser was upgraded (to 1.06). I then used urpmi to upgrade amarok and kaffeine (also using the 2006 sources) and they appeared to upgrade properly in the console. However, when I start these applications they appear to start & then just disappear :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 It is definitely not recommended to simply use the 2006 mirrors for a 2005 release. The reason is that the underlaying structure of 2005 is different to that of 2006 and things will break a lot if you simply install 2006 packages in LE2005 or previous releases. You can use the 2006 repos, but then you have to perform a full (!) distribution upgrade, otherwise things will continue breaking and crippling your system. As it seems, you have already broken your machine partly, thus the best thing you can try to do now is to perform a full system upgrade. For a full system upgrade, boot into an init 3 environment as root (= no graphical user interface) and run urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select and lastly upgrading the kernel with urpmi, too (otherwise the system won't boot again). If you use lilo as bootloader, you will also have to update the lilo config in order to be able to boot the system. If an upgrade is too difficult for you, then I'd recommend a clean reinstall of LE2005 or 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffi Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 It would also be handy to run etc-update after this (urpmi etc-update to install) to update all the config files, many are not updated by urpmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandrivanewboy Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 It is definitely not recommended to simply use the 2006 mirrors for a 2005 release. The reason is that the underlaying structure of 2005 is different to that of 2006 and things will break a lot if you simply install 2006 packages in LE2005 or previous releases. You can use the 2006 repos, but then you have to perform a full (!) distribution upgrade, otherwise things will continue breaking and crippling your system. As it seems, you have already broken your machine partly, thus the best thing you can try to do now is to perform a full system upgrade. >Yikes this seems rather drastic...It's only the 3 packages I mentioned that are affected and everything else on my system seems to running fine. Could I remove these packages & then reinstall the 10.2 versions back instead?? A clean reinstall of 10.2 would be crushing...An upgrade is tempting, but I'd be a little worried about messing it up. I'm with you on steps 1 & 2 using urpmi to update everything, how do you urpmi the kernel though?? I use bootmagic as my bootloader, which would still find linux I believe. Cheers, Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 If it is really only three packages and no depending libraries involved, then remove the installed packages and set up 2005 mirrors again, then reinstall the packages you uninstalled previously. For updating the kernel, read this: http://www.mandriva.com/en/security/kernelupdate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieJohn Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 What I have often found is than when updating just a selected package or packages, that urpmi does not always update the libs for those packages. The result is that the packages seems to install OK without error or whatever but you cannot open the program because it cannot find its matching libs. Go into MCC and check the version numbers for the packages you upgraded and then check the Amarok and Kaffine libs and I think you will find they are different. Cheers. John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 It's generally not recommended to use packages from other repositories because it can just make your system unstable, or as you have found packages not working. Stick with the LE2005 urpmi mirrors, or upgrade the whole system to 2006. This is easy enough now you have the 2006 sources, but I would recommend removing what you installed and stick with LE2005 easyurpmi source. Any other libs you install could affect something else and make your problem far worse than it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aioshin Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 or if you really want the latest of thus particular packages or software, you may install them from source... It worked for firefox - my browser was upgraded (to 1.06) if you mean you want to upgrade to latest firefox which is 1.5.05, you can go directly to its website and download it from there.. no need to compile, just untar and ready to run... . other than doing that.. you can also add via easy urpmi the repos such as contrib..and plf, it contains other updated packages.. others to consider... -SoS -MDE just be aware that they are independent packager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandrivanewboy Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi & thanks for all the advice.I've restored the 2005 media sources now, but can't seem to restore the updates media source, i've tried with uprmi and the sofware media manager but it's just not working. I get this message - ...retrieving failed: curl: (9) FTP: access denied retrieval of source hdlist (or synthesis) failed no hdlist file found for medium "updates" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.updates.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium "updates" found 839 headers in cache removing 0 obsolete headers in cache write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] unable to update medium "updates" Also cannot add the 10.2 repo from SOS , I get this - reconfiguring urpmi for media "SoS-10.2" computing md5sum of existing source hdlist (or synthesis) retrieving source hdlist (or synthesis) of "SoS-10.2"... http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-2005/hdlist.cz found probed hdlist (or synthesis) as hdlist.cz speed = 0 ...retrieving done examining hdlist file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.SoS-10.2.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.SoS-10.2.cz] unable to parse hdlist file of "SoS-10.2" examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.SoS-10.2.cz] problem reading synthesis file of medium "SoS-10.2" found 839 headers in cache removing 0 obsolete headers in cache write config file [/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg] unable to update medium "SoS-10.2" Any help would be most appreciated (again!) I did a urpmi removemedia -a before restoring the 2005 sources. thanks in advance, Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Did you do this first? urpmi.removemedia -a and then add the sources again from the easyurpmi page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) Your messages are mighty fine. The SoS mandriva 2005 repo does not exist anymore! Only 10.2/2006 has survived... Checkout from your browser: http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/ Edited July 31, 2006 by scarecrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aioshin Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) 10.2 is the root folder for 2005, so you may add thus inside it, but have to add thus individually Edited July 31, 2006 by aioshin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mandrivanewboy Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Your messages are mighty fine.The SoS mandriva 2005 repo does not exist anymore! Only 10.2/2006 has survived... Checkout from your browser: http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/ Hi aren't 2005 LE and 10.2 the same thing? I was able to browse to this directory - http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/10.2/i586/LE2005 How do I add it?? Did you do this first? urpmi.removemedia -a and then add the sources again from the easyurpmi page. Hi yes I did do this first, but still no luck adding the updates source:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Yeah, 10.2 and LE2005 are the same. I think this is what you want: urpmi.addmedia SoS-10.2 http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-2005 with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia SoS-KDE http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-KDE/ with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia SoS-Gnome http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-Gnome/ with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia SoS-Xchat http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-Xchat/ with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia SoS-Xfce http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-Xfce/ with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia SoS-E17 http://seerofsouls.com/mandriva/RPMS-E17/ with hdlist.cz of course, these are unmaintained now, so you won't see any further updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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