ral Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 "$100 combo (US) with the motherboard and XP2000+" Thats a steal :) Don't worry once they are running well they run well for a long time. My own personal PC runs on a K7S6A with a XP1700 and have had that for a few days short of a year without incident. At the shop, we have four 1.1 Durons running on a KS75A, K7VMM (not recommended) and two K7SEM's. Had to RMA one K7S5A.... but after that everything is working perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted February 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 DragonMage, Regarding ur sound problem, what is the output of: cat /proc/pci cat /etc/modules.conf cat /proc/modules Here it is.. if I use the alsa module [root@spitfire dmage]# cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 735 Host (rev 1). Master Capable. Latency=32. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xd0000000 [0xd1ffffff]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5591/5592 AGP (rev 0). Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=10. Bus 0, device 2, function 0: ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513 (rev 0). Bus 0, device 2, function 3: USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (#2) (rev 7). IRQ 3. Master Capable. Latency=64. Max Lat=80. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xcffff000 [0xcfffffff]. Bus 0, device 2, function 2: USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (rev 7). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Max Lat=80. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xcfffe000 [0xcfffefff]. Bus 0, device 2, function 5: IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 208). Master Capable. Latency=128. I/O at 0xff00 [0xff0f]. Bus 0, device 2, function 7: Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 160). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=52.Max Lat=11. I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdcff]. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd83f]. Bus 0, device 3, function 0: Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet (rev 144). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=52.Max Lat=11. I/O at 0xd400 [0xd4ff]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xcffdd000 [0xcffddfff]. Bus 0, device 15, function 0: Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp Modem (rev 8). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xcffe0000 [0xcffeffff]. I/O at 0xd000 [0xd007]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 (GeForce2 MX) (rev 161). IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=248. Min Gnt=5.Max Lat=1. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xce000000 [0xceffffff]. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xc0000000 [0xc7ffffff]. [root@spitfire dmage]# cat /etc/modules.conf alias char-major-89 i2c-dev options it87 temp_type=0x31 # probeall scsi_hostadapter ppa ide-scsi alias eth0 sis900 # above snd-trident snd-pcm-oss # alias sound-slot-0 trident # alias sound i810_audio probeall usb-interface usb-ohci # I2C module options # alias char-major-89 i2c-dev alias /dev/nvidia* NVdriver # alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi # above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss [root@spitfire dmage]# cat /proc/modules isofs 25652 1 (autoclean) inflate_fs 17892 0 (autoclean) [isofs] udf 85536 0 (autoclean) agpgart 31840 3 (autoclean) NVdriver 1065920 10 (autoclean) sd_mod 11788 0 (autoclean) (unused) sr_mod 15096 2 (autoclean) floppy 49340 0 (autoclean) parport_pc 21672 1 (autoclean) lp 6720 0 (autoclean) parport 23936 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] snd-seq-oss 26176 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3208 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq 33264 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss 36932 1 snd-mixer-oss 9016 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-intel8x0 10880 1 snd-pcm 55808 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0] snd-timer 9964 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 25508 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-mpu401-uart 2752 0 [snd-intel8x0] snd-rawmidi 12864 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] snd-seq-device 3836 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd 24804 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 3780 0 [snd] af_packet 13000 0 (autoclean) i2c-isa 1224 0 (unused) it87 6852 0 i2c-proc 7088 0 [it87] i2c-core 15332 0 [i2c-isa it87 i2c-proc] sis900 13388 1 (autoclean) ntfs 72908 1 (autoclean) supermount 12360 2 (autoclean) nls_iso8859-1 2844 3 (autoclean) nls_cp850 3580 2 (autoclean) vfat 9588 2 (autoclean) fat 31832 0 (autoclean) [vfat] ide-cd 28712 0 cdrom 26912 0 [sr_mod ide-cd] ide-scsi 8212 1 scsi_mod 90404 3 [sd_mod sr_mod ide-scsi] adi 6232 0 (unused) ns558 2252 0 (unused) gameport 1660 0 [adi ns558] joydev 5632 0 (unused) input 3456 0 [adi joydev] usb-ohci 18216 0 (unused) usbcore 58304 1 [usb-ohci] rtc 6560 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 169776 2 If there is anything more, please say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted February 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 "$100 combo (US) with the motherboard and XP2000+" Thats a steal :) Don't worry once they are running well they run well for a long time. My own personal PC runs on a K7S6A with a XP1700 and have had that for a few days short of a year without incident. At the shop, we have four 1.1 Durons running on a KS75A, K7VMM (not recommended) and two K7SEM's. Had to RMA one K7S5A.... but after that everything is working perfectly. That's nothing.. a few days later I found this deal from www.outpost.com (the online arm of Fry's in anycase). K75SA Pro with XP2000+ for 89 bux plus shipping.. I don't know what's the difference between the Pro version and the regular 3.x version of K7s5A, but it's basically cheaper. Too bad the deal is dead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ndeb Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 DragonMage, Here's ur audio card, SiS 7012 PCI: Bus 0, device 2, function 7: Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 160). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=52.Max Lat=11. I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdcff]. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd83f]. Ur /etc/modules.conf has these sound related entries: # above snd-trident snd-pcm-oss # alias sound-slot-0 trident # alias sound i810_audio # alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio # above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss U have 4 possible sound drivers: OSS - trident, i810_audio ALSA-0.9rc2/3 - snd-trident, snd-intel8x0 U r currently using the snd-intel8x0 driver, which is not working right. Which of the OSS drivers have u tried already ? Anyway, try the other combinations (make sure all other sound-related lines are commented out): 1. alias sound-slot-0 i810_audio 2. alias sound-slot-0 trident 3. alias sound-slot-0 snd-trident above snd-trident snd-pcm-oss If none of them solves the problem, get the latest ALSA source (alsa-driver-0.9rc7 only) from http://www.alsa-project.org/ and install from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted February 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 The trident module is the leftover from my old motherboard (MS21N) with SIS 7018 sound, so it's basically useless in my current MB (which is K7S5A with SIS 7012 sound). I tried all other combination (using i810_audio and snd-intel8x0) but both have the same problem.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ndeb Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 DragonMage, Sorry I misunderstood. So this is how it goes: Audio Driver device ALSA 0.9 OSS/Free -------------------------------------------------------- SiS 7018 PCI snd-trident trident SiS 7012 PCI snd-intel8x0 i810_audio Since, its not working, only way out is to get alsa-driver-0.9.0rc7 from http://www.alsa-project.org/ . 1. A good idea is to get the latest kernel update (2.4.19-24mdk) for mdk-9.0. Make sure u have installed the corresponding kernel-source rpm too. 2. Compile alsa as follows: shell> cd alsa-driver-0.9.0rc7 shell> ./configure --enable-verbose-printk --with-debug=full --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-cards=snd-intel8x0 --with-isapnp=no shell> make Once the modules have been compiled, make a shell script that looks like this: #!/bin/sh # delete the current driver modules modprobe -vr snd-pcm-oss modprobe -vr snd-intel8x0 # set the directory where your compiled ALSA modules reside ALSA_MOD_DIR=<some path>/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc7/modules # Now load the new driver modules modprobe -v soundcore insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-mixer-oss.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-timer.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-pcm.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-pcm-oss.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-seq-device.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-rawmidi.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-seq.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-seq-midi-event.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-seq-midi.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-seq-oss.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-ac97-codec.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-mpu401-uart.o insmod -v $ALSA_MOD_DIR/snd-intel8x0 Make this executable by the command chmod 700. Then execute this as root. Then run a mixer program to get ur volumes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted February 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 I tried your suggestion (downloading the newest alsa driver and compiling it), and I still have the same problem. Anyway, it seems that driver supportwise, SIS 7012 is very basic.. I also find out that unlike my old mb's trident module, it seems to be only able to load one channel of sound at a time, so I cannot play 2 sound files together. Oh well.. I think I am going to refund this mb anyway, it's much more unstable than my old athlon.. and maybe wait until my friend arrives with my aureal card (with the yamaha XG daughtercard in it). Anyway, thanks for the help guys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ndeb Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 DragonMage, Regarding the latest ALSA, my script in http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php...t=3051&start=20 had an error. It should have loaded snd-intel8x0 (not the snd-trident driver). I have corrected the script in http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php...t=3051&start=20 . Does that make things better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonMage Posted February 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 Yeah.. I figured out some errors in your post and I adjusted it until it works. There is also another error in your post shell> ./configure --enable-verbose-printk --with-debug=full --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-cards=snd-intel8x0 --with-isapnp=no should be shell> ./configure --enable-verbose-printk --with-debug=full --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-cards=intel8x0 --with-isapnp=no It seems that starting from rc5 or something they remove the "snd" part from --with-cards option in configure, otherwise they cannot find the module to compile. In any case, I think I just buy a SB Live! value instead.. It seems that the ECS K7S5A v3.x and above used a CMedia 9738 instead of the old SIS 7012 for the old K7S5A. The module still works, but not as well. Oh well.. at least I got sound. I am still having stability problems though.. not to mention that the cooler I bought sounds like a jet engine. It's weird that it's actually more stable in linux than windows (in windows it hangs after a few minutes of 100% cpu activity unless I max out the fan speed, in linux.. it can go for hours). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aRTee Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 on the topic of changing motherboards: Just swap the motherboard, but after you do the following: backup your personal files, your current systemfiles, especially the ones you handedited (if any), and backup your /var/log/dmesg so that after swapping, you can compare. Then you can check if your chipset etc is properly recognised, and things are rosey or not. If your dma is working and dmesg looks very similar, you have sound, your burner works and your graphics are ok, why reinstall?? That's just such a closed source OS reaction if you catch my drift :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepse Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Just another addendum to the main part of this topic. I recently changed mobo's; from a Tyan Trinity 400 to a Tyan Trinity KT-A. The main diff is that the Trin 400 is Intel and the KT-A is AMD. The only thing I changed was the mainboard/cpu. I posted this on another site because I've been having probs posting on this one. Anyway, everything is running like there was no change, except maybe my nVidia card. If this post reply goes thru then I'll try again to post my vid card problem. BUT, the one thing mentioned on the other board in reference to Linux and changing mobo's; think about Knoppix and those other "Boot from CD OS's". Those OS's gotta check everything in a mobo and get it to recognize in order to work. In my board's case the kernel has to recognize and then compensate for my changing makes of CPU's. And it seems to have accepted it pretty good. And being that I am half crazy I did not back up anything. I guess that after reading about the Knoppix thing I just felt damn confident that it would work okay. It went so smooooth it still scares me. But then I am getting to respect Linux more and more as the years go by. OK its only been 3 years but still I feel better about this OS than Billyware. My 4 cents (US :lol: ). Pepse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.