udontlie Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 what exactly is gnome i hear people talking about it left and right is it another platform like kde, console etc? can someone explain what it is? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeeDubb Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 It is a Desktop environment. Other desktop environments include, but are not imited to KDE, icewm, matchbox, enlightenment, XFCE, fluxbox and others. EAch has it's own desktop related software and libraries, file browser, and integrated programs. KDE is generaly agreed to be the most well rounded and user friendly DE, but it can be quite resource intensive. Many people prefer fluxbox, XFCE, or icewm for their speed and efficiency, matchbox is usualy only found on integrated linux devices like PDA's and smartphones running X. Gnome is the second most popular after KDE, and while less functional all on it's own, it is QUITE capable and realy has greater pottential than kde if a user is willing to invest the time into configuration and scripting. Cahnces are, if you have been using linux so short a time you have to ask "what is gnome" then you'll be happier with kde. AND WELCOME TO THE MUB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 (edited) Actually, icewm and fluxbox (and all the other *box's) are not DEs, but Window Managers. The *box's and IceWM blur the lines because of their toolbar/taskbars,,,but there are Linux fanatics that will quickly jump in here and correct you (I guess I'm one, huh? lol) Desktop Environments include managing icons on the desktop and the wallpaper, etc...and also, hardly anyone will use fluxbox or icewm as the window manager with KDE or Gnome, but it is possible. Other DEs include: GNUStep, ROX, GTK+XFce, UDE, and others. Oops, sorry to jump in here. :P Edited December 5, 2004 by Steve Scrimpshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Gnome is the second most popular after KDE, and while less functional all on it's own, it is QUITE capable and realy has greater pottential than kde if a user is willing to invest the time into configuration and scripting.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> :lol: only with Mandrake and SuSE it's not any more difficult to use than kde. If it were I doubt ximian and novell would be hammering on it. Though it's true that it has less options in its control panel, it has GConfigurator to do many other things. It just more time to learn you way around. Support http://gnomesupport.org/ Forum http://gnomesupport.org/forums/ Applications http://gnome-apps.berlios.de/news.php http://www.gnomefiles.org/ Art http://gnome-look.org/ http://art.gnome.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artificial Intelligence Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Gnome can be your best friend :) Also check out the screenshot contests threads over at 'Art & Design' board there's alot of Gnome screenshots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza9814 Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 I myself find Gnome a LOT easier than KDE...if I had a comp good enough to run either of them I'd definatly use Gnome...or stay with IceWM...not totally sure...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 yes...since 2.0, the point of GNOME has been to create a desktop that is intended to 'just work', while KDE favours the approach of allowing the power user to set the desktop up the way he/she likes (even when it requires fifteen pages of config options to do so :>). I'm really not sure what veedub meant by scripting, I don't script *anything* on my GNOME desktop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 yes...since 2.0, the point of GNOME has been to create a desktop that is intended to 'just work', while KDE favours the approach of allowing the power user to set the desktop up the way he/she likes (even when it requires fifteen pages of config options to do so :>). I'm really not sure what veedub meant by scripting, I don't script *anything* on my GNOME desktop... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :wacko: I guess it depends on how you look at it. I see quite the opposite. They both work....I hope :unsure: Power user? kde? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 May as well ask them: http://gnome.org/about/The GNOME project provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop. http://kde.org/whatiskde/KDE is a network transparent contemporary desktop environment for UNIX workstations. KDE seeks to fill the need for an easy to use desktop for Unix workstations, similar to the desktop environments found under the MacOS or Microsoft Windows. Essentially they are both different ways of doing the same thing. Different appearances and programs to use on your computer. Gnome tends to take a clean and effective look, whereas KDE more of a feature loaded desktop, although slightly more cluttered. Veedubb: Gnome is just as functional on its own too, Gaim, Evolution, Epiphany, Nautilus, File Roller, Abiword, Gnumeric, Rhythmbox, Totem, Gnome has its bases covered application wise, just as well as KDE. A gnome desktop is functional from the start, you dont need to spend any time on scripting and configuring, at least no more than you would KDE. I would also think that although KDE is more popular amongst newbies and the community, more businesses would use gnome. Why? Because many businesses that use linux, use Red Hat, which is generally GNOME and now some would use Novell, which pushes GNOME mainly now that they have Ximian. Power users use both, scripters use both, newbies use both. They're both designed for everybody, thats not to say they are for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 I would also think that although KDE is more popular amongst newbies and the community, more businesses would use gnome. Why? Because many businesses that use linux, use Red Hat, which is generally GNOME and now some would use Novell, which pushes GNOME mainly now that they have Ximian. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think they also use gnome because they (companies) do not want their employess to tweak everything continuoulsy instead of working with the beast. kde is more of a playground imho and a good way to start deeper into the system. but if i should choose a de for a company, it would be gnome or the new xfce4.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamw Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 @bvc: sorry, I should've phrased that more precisely. I didn't mean to imply that KDE doesn't work :D. I should've said GNOME's philosophy is to 'do the right thing' - they believe that in a lot of cases there's a single sensible default behaviour that the DE should endeavour to know about and apply. KDE's philosophy is more that different behaviours work for different people and it should be easy for a user to configure pretty much any aspect of the DE to behave any way he, she or it likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphitus Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 @bvc: sorry, I should've phrased that more precisely. I didn't mean to imply that KDE doesn't work :D. I should've said GNOME's philosophy is to 'do the right thing' - they believe that in a lot of cases there's a single sensible default behaviour that the DE should endeavour to know about and apply. KDE's philosophy is more that different behaviours work for different people and it should be easy for a user to configure pretty much any aspect of the DE to behave any way he, she or it likes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> but kde doesnt work you can see where im biased.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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