Questions about IceWM

[MottS]

I'm using IceWM because it is fast like hell. I have 2 questions that maybe one of you figured out.

 

1) It there an autostart directory like in KDE? XTerm keep starting when I startx icewm and it really bug me. Also, I'd like to add Xscreensaver and GKrellm to that file (if it exist) so that these two app start when I startx icewm.

 

2) I've been able to separate the main bar (the one with the 'start' menu) from the taskbar. Now I have one bar with the 'start' menu and icons and the other with my opened apps. Is there a way to put the bar with the 'start' menu on top of the screen and the taskbar at the bottom. Now they are both on top and I don't really like it.

 

Thx for reading..

 

MOttS

[Guest jglen490]

Mine does, too. But that's because it's set up to do that in my $HOME/.xinitrc file :) !!

[MottS]

Mine does, too.  But that's because it's set up to do that in my $HOME/.xinitrc file  :) !!

 

Yours does what? And how did you do that (the what.. )

 

And I don't have a .xinitrc file in my $HOME. What's it for ?

[bvc]

It's a Autostart for wm's/de's that don't have an Autostart. Copy .xsession renaming it .xinitrc. Here's a post with my (old) ~/.xinitrc.

http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=1346

[Guest jglen490]

I don't do autostart into X, so thus I have a .xinitrc file with my distro (Mandrake 8.2). Not every distro handles that part the same, necessarily. This file can be used for a variety of things, but mostly to start programs that you want to run with your X window environment, as well as starting your wm/GUI/desktop.

[bvc]

I've used an ~/.xinitrc and autostart into X with fluxbox in ML8.1 and ML9.0 without any problems.

[MottS]

ok so I made a file called .xinitrc in my $HOME with the following lines in it:

 

gkrellm &

screensaver -nosplash &

 

Then I typed 'startx icewm' .. but X didn't start at all. :-(

 

So I removed it and now X starts no prob...... mistery

 

Also, how come XTERM is always started when I startx icewm? could I just find the file where xterm is teached to start, remove XTERM from there and add gkrellm and xscreensaver? .. but where is that file :?:

 

Anything else?

 

Thx guys !!

 

MOttS

[MottS]

OK .. problem solved. I figured out that we have to write which WM we want to start and just type 'startx' instead. Here is my new .xinitrc file

 

gkrellm &

xscreensaver -nosplash &

icewm

 

Now XTERM doesn't start and gkreallm and xscreensaver are... exactly as I wanted it. Thanks guys!!!!!!!

 

Now, second prob --> I've been able to separate the main bar (the one with the 'start' menu) from the taskbar. Now I have one bar with the 'start' menu and icons and the other with my opened apps. Is there a way to put the bar with the 'start' menu on top of the screen and the taskbar at the bottom. Now they are both on top and I don't really like it.

 

:roll: :roll:

 

MOttS

[bvc]

[EDIT] NEVER MIND :wink: YOU GOT IT!

 

How did you create it? I just copy an startup or init script and take out what was in it except, of course

 

#!/bin/bash

 

try startx without icewm

 

 

Could it be that icewm is like kde and won't use an .xinitrc?

Have you rpm -ql icewm to try and locate a possible startup file, and look for and xterm entry in one of the files listed?

[MottS]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Thanks BVC !!!

[theYinYeti]

In case anyone is interested, here's what I wrote on old club-nihil board:

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I don't know about IceWM specifically. Some time ago, I tried to find a WM-agnostic way to start programs at WM (Window Manager) start-up. I found none, so (that's what's great in Linux) I implemented it myself. Here's how using the GDM login manager:

 

Open a terminal window and su to root:

$ su - root

Password: ....enter root password....

#

Then, as root, edit this file: /etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/default

To the end of this file, add the following lines:

if [ -x /home/$USER/.Xclients ]; then

 su - $USER -c /home/$USER/.Xclients

fi

 

Now, any user on your system has the ability to create an executable .Xclients script file in their home-directory, in which they put all commands they want to be started at WM startup.

 

If you don't use GDM, I'm sure there is a way to do something similar with the login manager you use (eg: KDM).

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Yves.

[Guest jglen490]

Could it be that icewm is like kde and won't use an .xinitrc?

Actually, KDE can use .xinitrc. Any wm/GUI/DE can use .xinitrc. I have used it in the past with KDE, when not autostarting. As is the case throughout Linux, there is more than one way to get a job started/done. Of course, some may be better than others :D !!

[theYinYeti]

The problem is that .xinitrc is not read if you start your session from the display manager (KDM, GDM), ie: runlevel 5.

.xinitrc is only read when you start your session from the console, with the startx or xinit command.

 

Yves.

[bvc]

xinitrc is only read when you start your session from the console, with the startx or xinit command.

 

 

I've used an ~/.xinitrc and autostart into X with fluxbox in ML8.1 and ML9.0 without any problems.

So, is this being done with the xinit command via autostart?

[theYinYeti]

I've used an ~/.xinitrc and autostart into X with fluxbox in ML8.1 and ML9.0 without any problems.

So, is this being done with the xinit command via autostart?

:? I don't know, I never used autologin (same as autostart?). Also, I use Mdk8.1, and such init script can greatly change from version to version.

 

Yves.