spinynorman Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 PCLInuxOnline reports that the amendments made by the EU Parliament to the Software Patents proposals, are to be discarded. It's unfortunate for the Irish Presidency that they have had contributions to 'specific elements of the Presidency' from Microsoft. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anon Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Its sad, but i am not surprised, the EU is turning out to be one of the most corrupt and undemocratic institutions (governments ??) in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlc Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Not at the patents, but the EU. still a joke eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 not really, its just the sum of its parts ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero0w Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 This is worse than I thought. A proposal from a close-door meeting can sidestep a previous one with open discussion, negotiation, albeit compromised with understanding from both sides of the issues, what happened to the EU Parliament or her members' belief in democracy and legitimacy? Crap, let's support the Online Protest again, only this time it is not just about Patent issue; it has also become an issue of favoring close-door black box operation when rational and understanding discussions was conducted openly beforehand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero0w Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 The fight is still going on, and let's keep up the spirit: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2...040513125154288 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitor Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 (edited) I think nevertheless, the whole FOSS community should react, and not sit back and watch what happens. This is at this moment more important then anything else regarding FOSS. If this legislation passes, you want be able to work on FOSS anymore, because with every line of code you will be writing, you will be running the risk that some big company that has patented "Hello world" will drag you into court. Even if their claims do not make any sense at all, you'll be bankrupt before that a judge will confirm that, so you will not be able to run the risk. Finished with developing (and probably using, see what SCO is doing to Linux users) open source software! There are some sites that are starting a nice initiative. They list from all politicians in the European Parliament what their attitude has been on software patents up till now: For Holland: http://www.softwarepatenten.be/rapport.html For Belgium: http://www.softwarepatenten.be/rapport.html What I am going to do now, is to find fax or e-mail of the politicians that behaved negative to software patents, give them a pat on the back and ask them to prove in the coming weeks (just before the European elections) to show they are serious with it and to take firm action to stop this nonsense (demonstrations, ...). Besides that I am going to confront the ones that have behaved positive to software patents with their attitude, give some facts why this is not good, and (in the view of the elections) ask them to change their position and show this very clearly (demonstrations, ...). I hope that everyone on this board will follow this example, then we might have some effect. Ciao, Sitor Edited May 14, 2004 by sitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinynorman Posted May 14, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Sitor - I think your Dutch link should be http://vrijschrift.org/swpat/press/stemming.html. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowator Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I write to my MEP before but Ill do it again. This is really dispicable. I was talking to some Irish people last night and they were saying how nice it was to be able to smoke in a bar again. I was saying I havnt been in Ireland for about 5 yrs but I cant imagine this. If someone had told me 5 yrs ago that something so undemocratic would take place in ireland I would have laughed. The SW patent thing is just the same. Its a complete overriding of the democratic process. Whoever is steering the presidency of the EU needs seeing to. I mean taking sponsorship for MS is so transparent. Back to the cigaretts. I asked why they hadnt protested .... etc. because of opinion polls saying they were in a minority. However this is BULL, it depends what questions were asked. I quit smoking a couple of months ago but I dont mind going to a smoking bar. more importantly I might choose a non smoking bar if I had a choice but obviously not enough people think its important enough to make it viable. However the fine is 3000 Euro .. and cigarettes are legal whereas the maximum fine for canabis is 300 (personal amounts). So these guys have given up. Its passed ... therefore because of the HUGE fines associated noone is willing to make a stand. Even further non payment of this fine leads to imprisonment apparently. (even for those who cant afford it) This is IMHO what the EU presidency and MS their paymaster want to do for software apatents. Push it thorough and then its done... even if the process is later criticised noone will dare stand against it. The time to act is therefore NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero0w Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 It looks like all the troubles came from the same notorious Redmond company: http://lwn.net/Articles/85301/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 :lol: :deal: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero0w Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 (edited) :deal: -> -> Edited May 15, 2004 by zero0w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 oh, ok, I'm the one that's crazy? heh, I knew this crap 13 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Again !!! Didn't we already told them NOT to patent software ? Didn't they said ok ? Why do I have the impression that as soon as we turn back they try to f**k us ? hey we have something else to do than checking them, demonstrate, sign petitions ! don't they fear that next time we'll them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero0w Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 (edited) OSNews Editorial: Not Everyone Understands the Patent Situation http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=7055 Edited May 15, 2004 by zero0w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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