RadioEar

My simple answer; no, not really. However; it does make you a better Linux user. :P

 

I will say it is a good operating system, better than DOS and Window$. But now after saying that , that's not much. :D

My brother Ix turned me on to Linux... and starting to like it over M$ Windows.

Mandriva 2006.... really nice. :P

Kind of a tongue-in-cheek read... I liked it.

 

 

I've found Linux not that hard to learn (still learning) but you must keep at it. Just about like any endeavor a person might approach, got to keep at it.

i read the same article and laughed. now read this http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137317/...rver-sales-boom just as a comparison

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Same data but positive read for Linux...

Reads like the usual puff piece for Micro$oft...

You mean Wintel? :lol:

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I think he means Wintendo ;)

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No... He meant 'WinTel'.... 'Windows' + 'Intel'... Get it?

As the saying goes; No lock is safe as long someone has a key to open it.

yeah, but as an analogy which is safer: a kid at the wheels of a 200-horsepower sports car or an experienced race driver?

A computer is not a race car... you can not die from your computer. Unless, you’re talking about some apocalyptic event involving computers at which the danger was made by the “in-the-know” person or persons, not the computer illiterate or the common “Joe”.

 

In besides, the hacker has to know system, know how to reach all the "back doors" in that system, the "holes" if you will.

your argument that who knows the system inside out are the most dangerous is a very very old argument - there are numerous examples that both prove and disprove that, but the question is at what scale? what percentage?

Yes it is an old argument but we had a student hack our network some time ago and he showed the network administrater the "holes" he was able to enter. He was learning about that system and was exploring a little. No doubt the admin "sealed" the "holes".

And you say that home machines don't pose much of a problem...where do you think DDoS attacks causing millions in damage come from?

arthur; who does all the hacking and virus writing? Certainly not the everyday "joe", it takes somebody who knows how to do it.

 

:D

well, this question is just a try to get a discussion started. Someone mentioned in "should roots' hands' be tied?" that people who can't maintain a computer shouldn't own one.

 

I've been thinking about this...

 

Are computers weapons?

 

Computers could cause lots of destruction - you could argue that even civilian planes can do so too, but pilots' licenses and everything regulate them...drivers need licenses to drive, and farmers need licenses to use ammonium nitrate. (computers as in PCs, don't count microcontrollers)

 

Computers in the hands of ignorant users are dangerous. Discuss. :)

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I voted everybody, geeeesh!

 

 

"Computers in the hands of ignorant users are dangerous."

 

Well... actually the most experience users are the most dangerous, you know the big time coders, the guys that know systems inside and out, are the most dangerous. They (some of them) are the hackers and writers of viruses that cause all the trouble with anything that has something to do with computers. The average "Joe" sitting at his own computer at home or in the office doesn’t pose much of a problem... only to his own machine. The system of licensing (obtain a right) to control a product or an action, good or bad, is a system of regulatory graft

That's wild all right!

I think it will in time, but you said it; Marketing.

 

I work for a University in the US and Linux is one of the most popular computer courses and gets more students interested in Linux every year, but only to be second to Windows.

I don't get it, isn't this normal Windows? This is how mine works anyway!

 

 

 

As a hobbyist in computer programming, geek or what ever, I'm interested in seeing what KBasic brings to Linux as far as a high level language is concerned.

 

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I cut my teeth writing in Microware Basic09 for OS9, then in M$, GWBasic and QBasic. QBasic is where I learned a little machine language to make system calls to add a little power to basic applications. Visual Basic Text Window system made it possible to compile basic text files to executable stand alone applications and introduce module programming in M$ OS. VB6 for Windows has become so powerful where applications written in C and C++ now can be done in Visual Basic for Windows professional edition. Maybe the reason why I didn’t pursue C and C++ in earnest, but still working and learning C and C++, mostly C++.

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I think KBasic will be good for Linux.

 

 

Paul

Boy... After reading all this, I really got cold feet to upgrade Linux ver 8.0 to 10.0. The last time I or we (my brother) did this we had to reformat the HD because some how the partition got blown way by the Linux installer. I don't want to loose any data this time! It's pretty hard to deal with something you can't get real or complete information on, and I mean Linux. At least with M$ windows, I was able to get reading material, a book, on the M$ windows98 OS and figure out what the problem is and fix it, allthogh XP is a little... um... "different". I don't like M$ Windows, it's not that user friendly but Linux, without some information... complete reading material, is even less user friendly.

 

Right now for some reason my CD rom quit working with my current version of Linux... KDE or gnome, in M$ Windows, it works just fine... I have no way to figure out why without reading material, or at lest a book, to set down in my easy chair and read...

 

 

What ever...

RadioEar Neon Sign.

Does python allow you to compile as well?

On windows, you can make exe's but on linux there is absolutely no need.

 

If you go and save that script of mine into /usr/bin/ and name it 'notes' then chmod +x it, it would work just like any program. Just run 'notes' like any program and it will run.

 

iphitus

So 'notes' is saved as a binary file I take it as apposed to a text file?

python... looks like basic code like what you would find in M$ Visual Basic for DOS or Windows. I that what python is?

Just about every distrobuiton's home page in there support doc's will tell you how to recover your root password.

That's just it, for some reason I didn't get much info with my version 9.x what ever. All help docs are incomplete with links to the web for more information. Without the web right now it's kind of tough, my only acess to the web is here at work. Not very handy.

 

Thanks for the input... Both of you, Hirogen2 and cyberjackle.

I don't want to hijack the thread but this is a good question. I like to change my password for root as well. I use mdk and dual boot with win98. No idea about the bootloader.

I'm running XP on the monster rig I use at home--a brand new Compaq mid-tower--and the OS blazes like a Corvette. I especially like the four games it comes with - Hearts, FreeCell (so addictive!), Minesweeper, and Solitaire. It's easy to see why XP is considered the ultimate platform for gamers.

The reason why XP is considered the ultimate platform for gamers is a hoot!

 

Sure...

 

I can see how Solitaire can bring a OS down to it's knees... ???

 

And look out for Minesweeper... it will blow away those wimpy OS's...

 

 

 

Anyway...

I thought the price was right for mine. B)

After reading through this thread, I find the word is, AMD. Generally like so many here price and performance makes the final decision... Why pay more for Intel when you can get AMD for less money with same performance or in some cases better. For example, AMD's cooler operation and over clocking capabilities over the Intel processor.

 

But price says it all. so far I'll stick with AMD. Generally speaking of course.

Man, it's true. I remember complaining about our cryptic language (windex has it too!) and now I look at my posts to help people, and I have journeyed into obscurity!!! Help!!!!

 

It's always about the acronyms. I do it to RadioEar, but he looks at me real funny and says "What are you saying?" So, a list of the 50 most used acronyms would be helpful.

You should see the stare-into-space look on my brothers face when I say 'You should learn programming!' HaHa HoHo HeHe.

 

 

So... things like 'su to root' should be explained, just for starters. Otherwise this forum is no better the so-called education television.

Interesting link,

The jump to the object oriented C++ language becomes much easier. C++ is an extension of C, and it is nearly impossible to learn C++ without learning C first.

I started learning C++ first with some help from a friend who knew C. He never said anything about learning C first but it wasn't that hard for me to get started. I found C++ not that hard to understand. But to learn C first is not a bad idea, I wish I had.

 

I just need to keep at it! So much more to learn.