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The answer is yes. Use the search box at the top of the page for "moving partitions" which describes moving the whole partition to the new drive. Also look for a similar thread here within the last few days. Aru posted detailed instructions on how to do so. It is possible to extend a partition over more than one drive, but it is rather arcane and its installation is not easy. It is mainly intended for large datacenters who need constantly expanding partitions and it is usually implemented at install time, AFAIK, requiring enterprise kernel support. Counterspy

It would be my advice to follow the outline I gave above which means you do the partitioning (and package selection) in expert mode. This way you have total control over what the partitions will be. The old docs article on Partitioning in the Install section will give you an idea of sizes for each. You can enlarge the /usr and /home partitions given your disk size. These two partitions hold most of your programs with /home being mainly for your personal settings for your window manager (default is KDE). Before you begin, if you have not done so already, download the first three and the fifth Mandrake documentation files if you did not get docs in a boxed set. Find them here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3 . When you get to package selection you can select them by group or individually if you know which programs you want on your computer. If you are not sure, select the groups. The titles of the groups tell what's in them and if you are not going to be developing software or running a network server you can safely leave these out. Once installed, up and running you can get any additional packages you want or remove any that you don't want. Note that many programs have dependencies on other programs that will be installed as well. Make sure you make a boot disk to bail you out if something goes wrong. Come back if you experience any problems. Counterspy

If Anon has not solved your problem, perhaps you could tell us exactly what you did if you installed Mandrake yourself, or whether it was installed by someone else. If it was someone else, do you have the install disks? It is possible to set up Mandrake without KDE, Gnome or other window manager in which case you would be in console text only mode. What do you see when your computer finishes loading Mandrake? It will make it much easier to help with the answers to these questions. Counterspy

Please provide the make, model and driver or driver availability to give us something to go on in trying to answer your question. Counterspy

Sure I'll change my avatar if it makes anyone uncomfortable but not for the reason that it can trigger a seizure in photosensitive epilepsy. See this site: http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/info/photofrm.html , http://www.epilepsytoronto.org/people/eaup...ate/vol9-3.html , http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/sk9...actsheet_04.htm , http://www.nature.com/dynasearch/app/dynasearch.taf http://books.cambridge.org/1898683026.htm , ' http://www.essex.ac.uk/psychology/overlays...epsy%20POT2.htm , and the list goes on. As a retired social psychologist, this topic frequenty came up as the potential sources grew from picket fences from a moving car to the current debate about disco and video games. Out of curiosity, I timed it roughly and the frequency is approximately 1 flicker/1.5 sec., far below that required to trigger a seizure. Unfortunately, this condition has been surrounded in myth in the computer age not unlike other conditions where there is not unanimity in the medical/psychiatric community. These issues have been aggravated by the arrival of some psychotropic drugs consumed by non-photosenstive epileptics causing subsequent seizures in a variety of settings. I am responding to your concern on the extremely remote chance that a photosensitive epileptic might suffer a seizure viewing that avatar. It will be done this afternoon. As a footnote, it should be said that flashing images may figure larger in certain migraine headache sufferers and in persons with brain damage caused by traumatic head injuries. Counterspy

I thought MCC was manipulating msec not shorewall. It sure looks that way from the msec docs. Thanks MottS, link fixed. Counterspy.

Do a search of the messages here from the box at the top. Aru answered a similar but not identical question in the last couple of days. Counterspy

Since no responses have been forthcoming on this question, I suggest you try a Google Advanced Search, where you will find one reference to Shockwave not running properly in Suse. This may give you some direction in your search. Counterspy

In our local university bookstore I saw a book on interface design in 3.1 days and skimmed it there but it was a little to pricey now would being quite old. Now that M.I.T. is putting all of their course material on line, it would probably be worthwhile to see what they have on the subject. There is likely much on the net that Google would bring forth as well. What I was scoffing at was the idea of duplicating XP when there are so many other interface problems in Linux to be sorted out. Now that the YinYeti has given us a positive review solving some problems, I will download it and take a look for myself. Would that Mandrakesoft spent a little more time before they make some of their ridiculous changes like "Removable Media". Doesn't the XP interface remind you of the Chief Software Architect's "Microsoft Bob"? Activision did a better job with Little Computer People. Counterspy

In our local university bookstore I saw a book on interface design in 3.1 days and skimmed it there but it was a little to pricey now would being quite old. Now that M.I.T. is putting all of their course material on line, it would probably be worthwhile to see what they have on the subject. There is likely much on the net that Google would bring forth as well. What I was scoffing at was the idea of duplicating XP when there are so many other interface problems in Linux to be sorted out. Now that the YinYeti has given us a positive review solving some problems, I will download it and take a look for myself. Would that Mandrakesoft spent a little more time before they make some of their ridiculous changes like "Removable Media". Doesn't the XP interface remind you of the Chief Software Architect's "Microsoft Bob"? Counterspy

I believe the issue goes beyond running out of cash. They have failed to get adequate distribution in North America in a manner that is timely following the completion of the distro thus failing to capitalize on their reputation in the world's largest market. The Club and the Store are frills in a multi-million dollar business and while they may make people feel good, they can hardly be considered as equivalents to a comprehensive retail strategy that puts product in every big box retailer in North America. They have been keeping their mouths shut for the most part which is a plus since they had a habit of letting senior executives put their foot in it on a regular basis. Their stock was still blocked from trading the last time I looked at Euronext meaning no one knows what it will trade at when the freeze is lifted. Times are not good for them in the present market situation and OTC tech stocks do not fare well. I feel that they shoul post an audited financial statement and the terms of the order of the Bankruptcy Court. Such a move would give everyone who supports them a realistic picture of where they stand and would certainly boost my confidence in their future. Everyone should realize they are a long way from being a successful company even after they are out of bankruptcy protection. They need to rationalize their whole operation much as they have done in the conditions applied to RC-1. Their joint agreements with Walmart, HP and others are never referred to except by Mandrakesoft, not exactly a desirable situation. This has to change showing positive results instead of constant upstaging by competitors. In today's B2B environment, they need to significantly reorganize their web presence which I see as an uncoordinated mess. We seem to spend more time on ours and we'll be here whatever happens. End of rant. Counterspy

At present I am using Guarddog as a firewall, not wanting to take up the challenge of Shorewall. I was disappointed at the disappearance of InteractiveBastille from version 9 because it "felt" so configurable. Since shorewall kept making its presence felt on my machine, I decided to go back to the web site ( http://www.shorewall.net ) and check out whether I had missed something in the docs I had already downloaded. I came away truly impressed with the power and scope of this program, thoroughly documented at every stage to the point of being almost overwhelming. For those setting up home or larger networks, its coloured diagrams and the accompanying descriptions makes it a primer on networking. The docs can be downloaded as a pdf for easier access than the html on the site. There is an excellent Quick Start Guide and a more comprehensive Setup Guide, FAQ and Reference section on the site if you don't want the whole doc package in the PDF. There are numerous references to other sites providing additional information on specific issues. Of particular interest is the list of ports references at http://www.iss.net/security_issues/advice/...Exploits/Ports/ . I have decided that I will now begin to build a shorewall firewall and suggest that if you have overlooked it, give it a second look with an open mind. My only regret is that Mandrakesoft didn't include the pdf in the docs in the distro. To lock a system down and relax as much as possible about the world out there it is in my opinion among the best I've seen despite its learning curve. Counterspy

For an interesting description of the mechanics/electronics of the Internet, have a look at the information Steve Gibson has written at http://www.grc.com. Despite his rather effusive style, he presents the clearest explanation I have yet seen complete with colour diagrams to illustrate the discussion. Most interesting is his description of various types of DOS attacks, DDOS attacks, and the latest DRDDOS attacks. Counterspy

For those who are interested, there are two French Mandrake newsgroups in addition to the English alt.os.linux.mandrake. They are alt.fr.os.mandrake and alt.mandrake.security.fr . Note that your news server may not carry these groups but you can request them through your ISP. Most ISP's are cooperative about this kind of addition but don't count on it. If you really want them, you can get them through a fee-based server. Counterspy

The answers given to the first set of questions also apply to a dual boot on one drive. I always recommend that you select expert install to give you complete contol of the partitioning and package selection. Linux will recognize your Windows install and include it in the Linux boot program, Lilo or Grub are the two linux booters which you select near the end of the install. Grub is viewed as the better of the two although it is really a question of personal taste. Partition your disk into "/" root, /usr, /home, /var and swap. You can eliminate separate partitions for /usr and /var. /usr is where most of your usr programs go and /var is for log files. Many people separate these for convenience and in the the case of /var, it is to stop runaway log files from overwriting part of root. /home is separated because that is where all of your personal preference files are stored and if you are forced to reinstall or upgrade to a new version you do not need to format it preserving your settings. There are several other recent messages on this topic posted you could look at for more information. If you have not already done so, I suggest you download and read the first three and the fifth file from here: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fdoc.php3 . You can get more partitioning information from the old docs section at the top of this page in the Install section. Make sure you have a formatted empty floppy to make a rescue disk when the system asks for it. This is critical if you should be unable to boot with the boot loader. Once you complete your install and have Linux up and running there are may more doc files under the Documention section of your main menu. As far as Lindows is concerned...I haven't and won't be looking at it. Counterspy

I think it is rather funny. Why they would waste their time on a mimic of XP when there are many other desktop problems to be solved is a demontration of how easy it is to be stupid. What is even funnier is the that you can only install it with a script and then only on one distro. I know! Let's tell them to get apt-get or rpm to install it. Some people's kids. Counterspy

In the previous thread about the particulars of RC-1 release, I was looking for the hand of the new CEO and I think I saw his influence. Given that they appear to be heading for an April/May release (mid 2q 03) this should give time for a thorough debugging. I cannot afford the club on a fixed income and only today did I finally see a 9.0 Powerpack in my local Staples store, the only Linux product on the shelves. If I go any way with the new version it will be the retail channel which is the ultimate breakpoint for the success or failure of Mandrake Linux in its present incarnation. Counterspy

This is not the forum for a debate on partitioning and backup. I have said all that I intend to say on the subject except as it pertains to the question(s) posted. If the original questioners have any further questions they can direct them to who they feel has helped them. If you wish to debate the subject further I suggest you post it to Everything Linux so the whole community can participate and offer their opinions. Counterspy

To gain control of all of the aspects of web activity such as ads, popups, web bugs and other annoyances, download for both Linux and Windows "Privoxy" at http://www.privoxy.org . Successor to the junkbuster program, Privoxy now comes with a configurable default.actions file which you can do yourself or key in http://config.privoxy.org once you have installed and the program is running. It offers an edit or three levels of default protection saving you the trouble of reading all those docs as thoroughly as you should. Counterspy

Never use fdisk/mbr on an XP or 2000 installation. There are recovery consoles for both, XP use is described M$ KB article #Q307654 and 2000 in M$ KB article #Q229716. Counterspy

One thing we forgot to mention is saving the /home partition on upgrades, reinstalls or installs to 9.1 as an example. All of your custom settings in window managers and browsers etc. are stored there and would not be reformatted in any scenario other than corruption of /home itself. Counterspy

I do not disagree with much of what you say. I do not agree with your recommendations about backup. I do the same with my system in storing Linux data in Windows and vice versa, but I started that after two years of experience with Linux. This I regard as suiting you but poor advice closing in on nonsense for relatively inexperienced users. Your reliance on Windows-based partitoning programs is also something I recommend be avoided like the plague, particularly if any kind of journalling is employed. The cardinal rule is to use Windows partitioners on Windows and Linux partitioners on Linux. There is no Windows partitioner except in dreamland that will bail you out of a serious problem once Linux is on the scene. Many new users scramble their systems by letting Windows or utiltites like Partition (Perdition) Magic correct errors for them. They can be safely used for initial partitioning but should be shelved after that. As far as single or multiple passes are concerned this a straw man given that the increased size is also matched by increased speed and in any event we are arguing microseconds in access times. For some accurate information on drive matters see http://www.storagereview.com. Linux partitoners include Parted ( http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html ), fdisk, cfdsik and sfdisk. Parted is what I would call the ultimate program because of its scope and documentation. The only disadvantage is that it and the others are command line driven making new users do more work learning how to use them. They are also compatible with a far greater number of OS file types that are simply not within the capabilties of similar software in Windows. For imaging partitons, there is partimage ( http://www.partimage.org/ ), again well-documented which works quite adequately for Linux AND Windows partitions including NTFS. Since I consider Windows eventually expendable on my machine, I do not bother backing any of it up except for one partition containing Linux material. Most users find that it needs at least quarterly reinstalls just to keep functioning. Counterspy

See my response below to the question from JohnKFT about Dual Boot, Any problems. It addresses these issues specifically. The only difference is that you are using two drives instead of one. Lilo should find the XP and install it and Linux in the boot sector of the primary master. Partition recommendations are as above with the exception of separate /temp partition. Read the posts linked for you by Aru and read the old docs section at the top of this page on partitioning. Would that the other question about two drives had read mine those recommended first. Counterspy

The difference between the regular kernel and the secure kernel are modifications from here: http://www.grsecurity.org/news.php which has docs and a forum for discussion of what it does. It is not newbie reading. Counterspy

I'm glad I was able to help you out of that dilemma. For some reason or other , I have been slowly cultivating some meaninful facts about this esoteric subject and hunting for tools to fix things that go wrong with partition tables. FWIW, this came about as a result of trying to help a user on a.o.l.m. which became a community effort ultimately resulting in him rebuilding the table by hand with a sector editor. He left a final message after success about running cfdisk or sfdisk with a particular command, printing out the results and filing them for future reference. Your situation has motivated me to look for that post in google groups. You could probably do the same with Parted. Counterspy