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Personally, I've always believed that backward-compatibility is something that has to be thrown out the window from time to time when it's simply not feasible. 64-bit to 32-bit compatibility was tackled by Apple/Macintosh when they went from 68040 to PowerPC back in the 90's. I'm flabbergasted that when PC went from 32 to x86_64 that no one actually began to seriously run 64-bit OS as the norm. Yes, servers are running 64-bit but the desktop OS is still 32-bit I'd estimate 99% or higher. Someday I hope everyone goes to 64-bit OS and something like Parallels running 32-bit environment for those must-have applications that didn't port.

Ok, so while playing around with beryl, I've figured out how to make it look and work like compiz defaults. So, nevermind - I'm an idiot.

Ok, now I'm really in trouble - Compiz isn't working at all. Tried some fixes from the Compiz.org discussions, but now it won't launch at all. Manually launching at command line says there's another manager running on screen 0 and no screens available 0:0 # compiz compiz: Another composite manager is already running on screen: 0 compiz: No managable screens found on display :0.0 I've uninstalled all the nvidia RPMs, uninstalled compiz, ran the pkg1.run file from NVIDIA for 9629 drivers. Verified OpenGL and GLX is running via glxgears and an openGL screensaver and game. Reinstalled compiz RPMs. rebooted, ran drak3d to enable with AIGLX. Won't launch. drak3d to enable with XGL, get a white spash and then nothing but white screens. As a sidenote, running beryl with beryl-manager also results in the same message, but running beryl with # beryl works fine. Personally, I don't like the feel of beryl as much as compiz, so I'd prefer to use compiz. Any advice?

Doing some homework - finding out that this probably relates to a gtk-window-decorator or something. Someone recommends installing gnome-window-decorator RPM, just wondering - I'm using KDE, will this be the appropriate RPM?

I had Compiz working with XGL and 8774 drivers, but upgraded to 9629 drivers from NVIDIA proper and now have to use AIGLX - XGL won't work. Also, in AIGLX, the windows lack the window bars and decorations as well as I can't move them with Alt-drag. Any suggestions what is causing this? Card is Geforce FX AGP 8X/64MB on AMD Athlon XP 3200 My xorg.conf: # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713) # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder3) Wed Nov 1 19:47:17 PST 2006 # File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713) # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "layout1" InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" Screen "screen1" 0 0 EndSection Section "Files" # font server independent of the X server to render fonts. # minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs FontPath "unix/:-1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension Load "v4l" # Video for Linux Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" # Load "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so" Load "glx" # 3D layer Load "dri" # Direct Rendering EndSection Section "ServerFlags" #DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort) #DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching) # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work Option "allowmouseopenfail" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "logicdp" Option "XkbLayout" "us" Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" EndSection Section "Monitor" # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync Identifier "monitor1" VendorName "Dell" ModelName "Dell P1110" HorizSync 30.0 - 121.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 160.0 ModeLine "768x576" 50.0 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 ModeLine "768x576" 63.1 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "device1" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "NVIDIA Geforce2 FX" Driver "nvidia" Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true" Option "RenderAccel" "true" Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true" Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "screen1" Device "device1" Monitor "monitor1" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 15 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240" EndSubsection Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" EndSection and XGL=no and Modprobe.conf alias eth0 forcedeth alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0 alias eth2 eth1394 install scsi_hostadapter /sbin/modprobe sata_nv; /bin/true remove snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe -r snd-pcm-oss; /sbin/modprobe --first-time -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0 install snd-intel8x0 /sbin/modprobe --first-time --ignore-install snd-intel8x0 && { /sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss; /bin/true; } install usb-interface /sbin/modprobe ohci-hcd; /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd; /bin/true alias eth1 3c59x alias ieee1394-controller ohci1394

Hello, I was just wondering, I recently installed Mandriva 64-bit on my father-in-law's new computer and then went to install a couple apps that need to compile, like parallels, with the kernel. I got an error for various kernel source files that it says aren't installed. This brings me to my question: Is there any drawback to running 64-bit linux and then installing 32-bit apps where there isn't a 64-bit version or source files available? (ok, 2 questions) How do I go about installing these? ( I have the 64-bit source files installed and other 64-bit apps compile properly) Thanks

Ok, I got it fixed. Here's what the problem seemed to be (or one of these was the problem) 1. Copied /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc.rpmsave to /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc 2. installed kernel 2.6.16.1 from MDE 3. rebooted and installed kernel-source-2.6.16.1mdk from MDE 4. rebooted and ran NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run from hard drive (had previously downloaded it). Rebooted and all OK now.

PS-Fixed sound issue. Working on KDM and the kdmrc file.

Hello, I recently reinstalled clean Mandriva 2006.0 (official) and then patched to 3.5.3 from MDE but now I get no KDM even though I selected it in MCC - it defaults to XDM and then won't log into KDE- gets stuck in a loop at the login screen. I used GDM and it will login to KDE and give a proper GUI login. Any suggestions how I can get KDM back up and running? If I go into failsafe from Lilo then init 3 then startx I get to KDE. As a side note: my sound and ARTs isn't working either.

Yep, Logitech Cordless Desktop Duo MX700 (usb) dmesg output 2 .D USB FW:o2] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2 input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:02.1-1 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:02.1-1 usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver usbcore: registered new driver usbkbd drivers/usb/input/usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver usbcore: registered new driver yealink drivers/usb/input/yealink.c: Yealink phone driver:yld-20050816 usbcore: registered new driver usbmouse drivers/usb/input/usbmouse.c: v1.6:USB HID Boot Protocol mouse driver kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds

Ok, I'm familiar with the ServerVTs=-7 line that had to be added to the previous /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc but I beleive MDE fixed this perviously. I've installed the Multimedia Kernel from the MDE repository and once again, there's no mouse movement when using this kernel. I went back to my old kernel and it works ok. Just curious if this is an easy fix that I'm overlooking? I've already installed the source for the kernel [moved from Installing Mandriva by spinynorman]

Hmm, nope - didn't work. I've installed Kubuntu for the moment just to see if I'm going to take the easy way out with a clean-install with 3.5.2 already included, but so far I'm hating it. Out of curiosity, has anyone made a full distro image with Mandriva 2006 and MDE/KDE 3.5.2 yet? That would be awesome!

Ok, here's what I'm currently doing - if this doesn't work then I'll clean install mandriva; sudo dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb3/sda1 sudo umount /dev/sda1 <run Qtparted and format sda1> sudo mount -rw /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 sudo dd if=/mnt/sdb3/sda1 of=/dev/sda1 <reboot mandriva and see if anything changed> Anyway, it may not change a darn thing, but at least I'll know. Now to just wait for dd to finish

I don't understand. Is it still failing to find superblocks in Knoppix? sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda1 dumpe2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Filesystem volume name: root Last mounted on: <not available> Filesystem UUID: 4c3b741d-0858-4998-9b78-34b3e804b99e Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal filetype sparse_super Default mount options: (none) Filesystem state: clean Seems like the drive integrity is fine. Are you saying that the linux kernel or something is corrupted and that's why I should reinstall? Forgive me if I seem stubborn, but I'd hate to revert to a windows-like solution of format and reinstall.

Also, I've checked and my udevstart and all the udev files in /sbin have been updated as of yesterday - the day I got this issue.

if it means anything, here's my /mnt/sda1/etc/rc.d/init.d/udev file: #! /bin/bash # # udev init script to setup /udev # # description: manage user-space device nodes in /udev . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions . /etc/udev/udev.conf # strip trailling slash: udev_root=/dev udev_root2=${udev_root}.old UDEVSTART=/sbin/udevstart HELPERS_PATH=/lib/udev sysfs_dir=/sys # default maximum size of the /dev tmpfs tmpfs_size="10M" case "$(uname -r)" in 2.[012345].*) gprintf "udev requires a 2.6.x kernel, not started.\n" exit 1 ;; esac # don't use udev if devfs is in use. if [ -e $udev_root/.devfsd ]; then gprintf "devfsd used instead of udev!!!\n" exit 1 fi # we need to unmount /dev/pts/ and remount it later over the tmpfs unmount_devpts() { if grep -q $1/pts /proc/mounts; then umount -l $1/pts/ fi if grep -q $1/shm /proc/mounts; then umount -l $1/shm/ fi } # mount a tmpfs over /dev, if somebody did not already do it mount_tmpfs() { if ! grep -E -q "^[^[:space:]]+ $udev_root tmpfs" /proc/mounts; then unmount_devpts $udev_root mount -n -o size=$tmpfs_size,mode=0755 -t tmpfs none $udev_root fi make_extra_nodes if ! grep -q $udev_root/pts /proc/mounts; then mount -n -t devpts -o mode=620 none $udev_root/pts fi if ! grep -q $udev_root/shm /proc/mounts; then mount -n -t tmpfs none $udev_root/shm fi } make_node () { dev="$1" type="$2" major="$3" minor="$4" if [ "$type" = c -a ! -c "$dev" -o "$type" = b -a ! -b "$dev" ]; then rm -f "$dev" mknod "$dev" "$type" "$major" "$minor" fi } make_extra_nodes () { # there are a few things that sysfs does not export for us. # these things are listed in /etc/udev/links.conf grep '^[^#]' /etc/udev/links.conf | \ while read type name arg1; do [ "$type" -a "$name" -a ! -e "$udev_root/$name" -a ! -L "/dev/$name" ] ||continue case "$type" in L) ln -s $arg1 $udev_root/$name;; D) mkdir -p $udev_root/$name;; M) mknod --mode=600 $udev_root/$name $arg1;; *) gprintf "links.conf: unparseable line (%s %s %s)\n" "$type" "$name" "$arg1";; esac done } # When modifying this script, do not forget that between the time that # the new /dev has been mounted and udevstart has been run there will be # no /dev/null. This also means that you cannot use the "&" shell command. ############################################################################## case "$1" in start) [ "`runlevel`" != "unknown" -a -f /var/lock/subsys/udev ] && exit 0 [[ -d /var/lock/subsys/ ]] && touch /var/lock/subsys/udev 2> /dev/null fgrep -q '/dev ' /proc/mounts && [[ -e /$udev_root/.started ]] && exit 0 # don't use udev if sysfs is not mounted. if [ ! -d $sysfs_dir/block ]; then echo not starting because /sys is not mounted exit 1 fi if [ ! -d $udev_root ]; then mkdir $udev_root fi # we'd better handle this in an udev event: [[ -e /sys/class/firmware/timeout ]] && echo 50 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout # Creating initial udev device nodes: mount_tmpfs touch $udev_root/.started # udev uses a netlink, kernel.hotplug isn't needed echo "" > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug udevd -d # propagate /udev from /sys - we only need this while we do not # have initramfs and an early user-space with which to do early # device bring up (aka coldplug) PKLVL=$(cut -f1 /proc/sys/kernel/printk) sysctl -n -w kernel.printk=0 $UDEVSTART $HELPERS_PATH/udev_input_coldplug start sysctl -n -w kernel.printk=$PKLVL action "Start %s\n" udev /bin/true for i in /etc/udev/conf.d/*; do [[ "$i" = ${i%\~} ]] && [[ -x $i ]] && $i; done pam_console_apply ;; stop) rm -f /var/lock/subsys/udev $udev_root/.started exit 0 ;; force-stop) killall udevd [[ ! -d $udev_root2 ]] && mkdir $udev_root2 mount --move $udev_root $udev_root2 unmount_devpts $udev_root2 # unmounting with -l should never fail action "Stopping %s" udev umount -l $udev_root2 2>/dev/null sysctl -n -w kernel.hotplug="/sbin/hotplug" >/dev/null 2>&1 rmdir $udev_root2 rm -f /var/lock/subsys/udev ;; status) if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/udev ]; then action "%s is running\n" udev /bin/true exit 0 fi action "%s is stopped\n" udev /bin/true exit 3 ;; restart) [[ -f /var/lock/subsys/udev ]] || exit 0 $UDEVSTART pam_console_apply ;; force-reload) $0 force-stop $0 start service syslog restart ;; reload) $0 restart ;; *) gprintf "Usage: %s {start|stop|status|restart|force-reload|force-stop}\n" "$0" exit 1 esac exit 0

Result: sudo dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda1 dumpe2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) Filesystem volume name: root Last mounted on: <not available> Filesystem UUID: 4c3b741d-0858-4998-9b78-34b3e804b99e Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #: 1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal filetype sparse_super Default mount options: (none) Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 1311552 Block count: 2622603 Reserved block count: 131130 Free blocks: 2242277 Free inodes: 1270981 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size: 4096 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 16192 Inode blocks per group: 506 Filesystem created: Sat Apr 22 05:01:43 2006 Last mount time: Thu May 4 02:04:49 2006 Last write time: Thu May 4 02:39:11 2006 Mount count: 41 Maximum mount count: -1 Last checked: Sat Apr 22 05:01:43 2006 Check interval: 0 (<none>) Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Journal inode: 8 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: 50a955ed-a98c-42eb-9863-a3a747d538da Journal backup: inode blocks so you know, here's my lilo.conf and fstab files: lilo.conf # File generated by DrakX/drakboot # WARNING: do not forget to run lilo after modifying this file default="multimedia_4GB_2.6.14.7" boot=/dev/sda map=/boot/map keytable=/boot/us.klt menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw prompt nowarn timeout=60 message=/boot/message disk=/dev/sda bios=0x80 image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz label="linux-nonfb" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" image=/boot/vmlinuz label="failsafe" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img append="failsafe resume=/dev/sda5" image=/boot/vmlinuz-i586-up-1GB label="linux-i586-up-1GB" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-i586-up-1GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-18mdk-i586-up-1GB label="2612i586up1GB-18" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.12-18mdk-i586-up-1GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-i686-up-4GB label="linux-i686-up-4GB" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-i686-up-4GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-18mdk-i686-up-4GB label="2612i686up4G-18" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.12-18mdk-i686-up-4GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2mdk-i686-up-4GB label="4GB_2.6.14-2" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.14-2mdk-i686-up-4GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-18mdk label="2.6.12-18" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.12-18mdk.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2mdk label="2.6.14-2" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.14-2mdk.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2mdk-i586-up-1GB label="i586_2.6.14-2" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.14-2mdk-i586-up-1GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-0.mm.7mdk-i686-up-4GB label="multimedia_4GB_2.6.14.7" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.14-0.mm.7mdk-i686-up-4GB.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-0.mm.7mdk label="multimedia_2.6.14.7" root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.14-0.mm.7mdk.img append="resume=/dev/sda5 splash=silent" vga=788 fstab: # This file is edited by fstab-sync - see 'man fstab-sync' for details /dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/sda8 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb2 /home/elavoie/Documents_Backup ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb3 /home/elavoie/Downloaded_Software ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sdb1 /home/elavoie/Ripped_CDs ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom2 auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,noauto,ro,exec,users 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/sda6 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda7 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/sda5 swap swap defaults 0 0

It said no superblock was found on /dev/sda1 try using e2fsck -b 8193 etc, etc... I updated through mandriva update and from what I can remember, there were some MDE files such as kdelibs-3.5.2-? and libkde's; Non-MDE files: hal-v.v.v, dbus-v.v.v, and clamav, clamd updates. Selected them all except hylafax. Completed normally. While refreshing the selection, mouse locked up.

I need some help please. I recently applied some patches and I don't know if any apply to this problem or not. After applying patches to hal, kdelibs, dbus and some others, my mouse locked-up. Restart X and same - no mouse. Reboot and now I don't even get shell login. What I get is something like: /dev/fb0 umount /initrd/sys failed: 16 mounting systs on /sys FATAL: module not found. Then goes on to say: no superblock found on /dev/sda1 e2fsck..... login to repair login and run e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda1 and same thing. boot from Knoppix live DVD and run e2fsck /dev/sda1 and says clean. I've checked my fstab and my lilo.conf. Both seem fine. This happens with every kernel version I select in Lilo menu as well as failsafe. Any help is appreciated. [moved from Installing Mandriva by spinynorman]

I've tried both. IMHO I've felt that Gnome was faster out-of-the-box with displaying menus/submenus/other items and generally appeared faster. KDE seems more customizeable out-of-the-box, but slower. With that said, I went into tweaking my video settings with KDE and improved speed greatly. Also, I found resources to making Gnome 'prettier'. The only difference between the two for a novice user is how pretty do you want your desktop and how much tweaking of the video driver are you comfortable doing? Either will achieve the same comfort of interface with some adjusting on the end-user's part. Maybe that's all part of getting to know Linux commands and such though? I know it helped me. PS-I'm running a NVIDIA card, so ATI may be faster out-of-the-box

I also have the no sound in flash issue. Previously, I had gone into the Configure/KDE/Webbrowsing/Plugins and checked the play sound through aRTs. However, this isn't working properly. Is there anyone who has an Idea? Also, running KDE 3.5.2 (MDE) kernel 2.6.12-18, Firefox 1.5.0.2 and the latest flashplayer (as of 4/20/06 whatever version was available). A possibly related issue - when I hit scan for plugins, I get an error about could not load Netscape Plugins error: The nspluginscan executable cannot be found. Netscape plugins will not be scanned. and the flashplayer plugin is not listed in the KDE control panel. Thanks in advance. **edit: fixed the nsplugins error by installing kdebase-nsplugins package. I now have flashplayer in the window. Now have sound with flash in Konqueror but still no sound in Firefox. I only have one sound card.*** !!Update: I ran harddrake changed the driver to nvidia (have an NFORCE3 board) rebooted and then chose the default driver for my sound card (how this matters, I don't know since the other driver worked for sound like AmaroK, etc.) rebooted and now it seems to be working fine. Why this wouldn't have worked before, I dunno since the default driver is what was loaded before!!!

Yeah, unfortunately it's not the spinning issue that's the problem - the little "card" on the hard drive isn't supplying power to the drive for it to attempt to spin. I suspect I fried one of the pathways on that card. In the good ol' days we used to pull a card off another drive or use a special "recovery tool" which was a glorified universal card with DIP switches on it. Get data off, power down, put original card back on, ship off for warranty replacement. I suppose those days are gone, eh?

Just thought I'd let you all know - my hard drive just fried somehow - went *zap!* and then no more /dev/sda which was my /root, /usr and /home drive. Something in the internal hard drive controller card fried since it won't even spin up now. I went out and got 2 200GB SATA drive and I'm thinking of software mirroring my /home folder since everything else is on an IDE drive and is only downloads and ripped CDs.

Now when I do a Lilo I get: Can't find a config file for resolution 800x600 Can't find a config file for resolution 800x600 Can't find a config file for resolution 800x600 Can't find a config file for resolution 800x600

Ok, I think I figured out what I did to break graphical Lilo. I was installing some themes from KDE-look.org (I think it was ThinkLinux or something like that for LILO) and the instructions told me to install a certain version of Lilo that's much older than 22.6.1. I think it was 21.x.x or something like it. Anyway, the installation failed but left me with a working Lilo text and a broken Lilo graphical (because I think it instructed me to delete the files ie:rm <lilo graphical>. :woops: So, what should I do now? I noticed there's Lilo 22.7.1 available now, but I'm afraid to break it again by going to a different version than 22.6.1. Any suggestions? (Disclaimer - I could be totally wrong about all of this as I'm a MCSE whose trying to leave Wyneblows behind)