wrc1944

Thanks all, I unchecked the "assign hostname from dhcp" box, as per the recommendations, and my prompt is now back to normal. wrc@localhost wrc]$ su Password: [root@localhost wrc]#

I guess I wasn't too clear before- the problem I'm having is only on the Mandrake box. I've looked around extensively in the Mandrake /etc directory and can't find any files with the "ip24-250-199-108" relating to the bash prompt, or in fact, any file at all referring to it.. Maybe I just don't know where to look. The files you mentioned are in Gentoo, but Mandrake does not use them.

I just went to Cable from years of dialup, and setup winXP and Gentoo connections without too much trouble. I then got my Mandrake 10.1 box connected OK, but now I have this in any terminal (kde-konsole, aterm, gnome, or xterm), but only with the Mandrake box. [wrc@ip24-250-199-108 wrc]$ su Password: [root@ip24-250-199-108 wrc]# Everything seems to be working perfectly OK, but I'd still like to know why I have this strange bash prompt, and how to get rid of it (the "ip24-250-199-108" part) , without messing up my Cable connection. Any advice or insight is greatly appreciated. Thanks, wrc1944

phunni is correct, you can share /boot and swap. You'll find the thread link below a good in-depth tutorial on installing Gentoo on the same hard drive, from a working Mandrake installation. It probably addresses any possible question or misunderstanding you might encounter, because I certainly had a lot of them! http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=6...5877&highlight= Puggy and Neje really helped me do my first Gentoo install with this method, walking me through the entire process step by step. My main problems arose because I'm on dialup, and the Install Doc didn't address many things I was running into, and I lacked the basic Linux experience to recognize the obvious solutions. Basically, you just boot into your mandrake, and chroot over to the partitions you wish to install Gentoo on. I shared my Mandrake /boot and swap partitions with Gentoo, with lilo as the bootloader- worked fine. I hope it helps you avoid this: Good Luck, wrc1944

You might find this entire thread a good in-depth tutorial on installing Gentoo on the same hard drive from a working Mandrake installation. It probably addresses any possible question or misunderstanding you might encounter, because I certainly had a lot of them! http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=6...5877&highlight= Puggy and Neje really helped me do my first Gentoo install with this method, walking me through the entire process. Basically, you just boot into your mandrake, and chroot over to the partitions you wish to install Gentoo on. I shared my Mandrake /boot and swap partitions with Gentoo, with lilo as the bootloader- worked fine. I hope it helps you avoid this: Good Luck, wrc1944

I looked for 3.1.4 srpms in cooker, but only found the 3.2 beta1's. I'm seriously considering rebuilding the 3.2 kde srpm set when beta2 or rc1 comes out. I figure why build 3.1.4 when 3.2 is so close. I feel reasonably sure I can do it, as I've done xfree srpms optimized for athlon-xp before, with no problems. I also built kde 3.0.3 from cvs source tarballs once on Mandrake 9.0, and that worked OK. I did download a huge set of 3.2 beta1's precompiled rpms from another site, that were from 10/28-11/03, installed them OK, but ran into too many bugs for them to be usable- turned out to be a big waste of time. They were going to fix them, but never updated anything, AFAIK. (I've been on my Gento box for the last few days, so maybe they did). On dial up, and it's a big long job, so I'm waiting until I hear more about the ones on cooker now, or kde beta2. If anyone has experience with 3.2 beta's, please post. Seeing as how there are no MDK 3.1.4 srpms that I can find, maybe they are just skipping them, and finishing off 3.2. wrc1944

Kormac, I had trouble patching kernels at first too- now it's second nature. Add the patches before you do xconfig. What I do is put the ck .bz2 patches desired into the linux-2.4.21 directory, cd to that directory, and type: bzip2 -dc whatever-patch.bz2 | patch -p1 Be sure and do them in order, with the ck base patch first, and performance patches you want, and then the extra patches, like supermount. Also change the Makefiles before doing make dep. wrc1944

I recently learned you need to update these files to work with 2.5.xx kernels properly. I haven't hooked up my test box and tried it yet, so I can't say if it works, or not. I'm not quite yet willing to install them on my main box, although they are supposedly backwards compatible- but I've heard that before, and messed up my installation. I'll hook the test box up in a day or two as time allows, and give 2.5.75 a try with the upgraded files. http://supermount-ng.sourceforge.net/mdk-25/ These are built specifically for Mandrake 9.1, so it's probably OK- but again, I can't vouch for doing this- I don't know if they coexist with the old versions for 2.4.xx kernels, or they replace the old ones, and are indeed backawards compatible. If anyone finds out before I do, please post here with your results. I'll do the same. wrc1944

I've had varying success with 2.5.67-2.5.73. My problem boiled down to I could either get 2.5.xx's to work OK without serial drivers enabled, therefore no modem and internet connection, or enable serial drivers, get regular modem usage, but then have all sorts of bizarre file manager and console problems. l'd get weird hangs and freeze-ups, 4-8 minutes to open ~/home or different windows, couldn't do copy/paste operations, freezes on shutdown on a blue horizontally streaked screen, etc. If I then recompiled without serial enabled, all the problems vanished. I never figured it out, or came up with a config file that eliminated even part of the problems. I'm waiting for the 2.6pre versions, which should be here very soon. wrc1944

The xp flags will work on the later versions of Durons. For sure the 1300Mhz, as I have done it with that cpu , and I believe anything after and including 1100Mhz. These versions of Durons are actually xp's with a smaller cache- the architecture is supposedly the same. If you have an earlier Duron, leave out the =sse flag, and drop the "-xp" and that should work. They are just cut down Athlon T-birds, AFAIK. wrc1944

For those interested, I recompiled the 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk kernel with pretty aggresive athlon-xp optflags, and it works fine. These flags also work on other kernels I have tried. The trick in making them take when compiling kernels is putting them in the linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/arch/i386/Makefile, in the following manner. First, I installed the MDK multimedia kernel and kernel-source rpms in the usual manner. Then I copied the resulting source directory placed in /usr/src to my "kernels" directory in ~/home. Then copy the .config file to another location, go to a console, cd to linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk and do make mrproper. Then go into the above mentioned Makefile, and comment out the current MK7 flags, and add the new flags stanza, like shown below. --------------------------------------------------- #ifdef CONFIG_MK7 #CFLAGS += $(shell if $(CC) -march=athlon -S -o /dev/null -xc /dev/null >/dev/null 2>&1; then echo "-march=athlon"; else echo "-march=i686 -malign-functions=4"; fi) #endif ifdef CONFIG_MK7 CFLAGS += -march=athlon-xp -falign-functions=16 -falign-labels=1 -falign-loops=16 -falign-jumps=16 -mfpmath=sse -maccumulate-outgoing-args -fprefetch-loop-arrays endif The =16 values set things to corelate precisely with the athlon-xp's design parameters, which I would think are pretty important. This is said to allow the on-die cache to be fully utilized and filled with 16 byte segments. ---------------------------------------------------- Then do make xconfig, and import the config file you copied before, and do any editing needed. (In my case, I removed some 3rd party stuff that caused depmod errors for modules concerning ethernet cards etc. not found when rebooting, but it does no harm.) Save the config file, and edit the main extra version Makefile (not the one you put flags in) like below: VERSION = 2 PATCHLEVEL = 4 SUBLEVEL = 21 EXTRAVERSION = -0.16mmxp Then do the usual: make dep make clean make bzImage make modules su to root make modules_install You will get a warning in make modules (among a few other minor ones) as shown here: cc1: warning: -fprefetch-loop-arrays is not supported with -Os This only occurs in one small section where -Os apparently takes over, and does no harm AFAIK. -Os then releases, and -fprefetch-loop-arrays comes right back. (Can anybody explain this?) As long as you get done with no actual errors and compile bail outs, you are OK. I don't do the usual make install, but manually copy bzImage and System.map to /boot, adding the kernel name-version, like below. [root@localhost linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk]# cp System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.21-0.16mmxp [root@localhost linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk]# cd /home/wrc1944/kernels/linux-2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk/arch/i386/boot [root@localhost boot]# cp bzImage /boot/bzImage-2.4.21-0.16mmxp Then edit lilo, adding the stanza for the new "xp optimized" mm kernel, omitting the initrd line: image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-0.16mmxp label=2421mmXP root=/dev/hda10 append="devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet" vga=788 read-only Save, run lilo, and then reboot. I don't think I left anything out. wrc1944 :D

SoulSe Well, that's what happened- I finally wiped the drive. After I bzip2'd /home, Mail, and Documents in separate bz2 files, and put them safely in my little 1.5GB /usr/local partition, I felt brave enough to attempt reformatting home, and reinstalling. Big mistake. Everything went OK up until I tried finishing up the reformatting of /home. The MBR and superblocks had changed somehow, and I couldn't get out of it or make progress in DiskDrake (even though I know it very well). It wouldn't go into the final partitioning stage, because it couldn't read /home- it had changed to HOME. I then tried the rescue cd- messed around with it some and finally went to console vim, looked around some, and then tried to restore from usr/local using MDK's little tar script which I had used to bzip2, but since the tables had been rewritten and apparently weren't being recognized by tar xvfj, my fstab was fouled up, and I was really stuck. I then put the drive in another box (that has a burner) as slave, and tried to access the partitions from my main MDK install- still no go. Couldn't mount any partition on the slave, although they were all formatted. Then I decided to reinstall MDK and wipe everything except /usr/local with a minimum install. That worked, and I was able to mount /usr/local on the 9GB drive from the big drive's installation, and burn the bz2's to cd. Whew! What a learning experience. I'm now slating this 9GB drive for Gentoo only, just to see if I can figure that out- then maybe copy all the Mail and Documents back into the Gentoo install (if I get that far). Thanks for the help, wrc1944

tmye, I appreciate the response, but I'm as confused as ever. Re: chown -R wrc1944:goupname ./* What is the groupname supposed to be? rob? And, what does the ./* signify- any dir/file I wanted to copy to rob? qnr, I did login to as rob, and I can read files in /home/wrc, but can't copy them to rob. wrc1944 is in rob's groups. I'm still not understanding how I can copy files in wrc1944 to /home/rob. I guess Ineed an example of the exact code or procedure, say for a file in /home/wrc/xxx to be copied into /home/rob. Do you mean while logged in as wrc1944, I open a console, and type: $ newgrp - rob When I do that, and type rob's password, I get: [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ newgrp - rob Password: Sorry. [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ Any ideas as to what's wrong? wrc1944

This might sound lame, but I've only been using one user (wrc1944) since I started linux. I just added another one (rob), and can't figure out how to be able to be able to copy stuff into each other's /home directory. I tried going into userdrake, and putting them in each other's groups, but when I go to a console in wrc1944 (or even su to root), and do something like: cp- a Documents /home/rob I get a no permissions error, even though "rob" is in wrc1944's groups. Same error, other way around. I know it's some chown or similar command I need, but it just escapes me! I thought root could transfer anything between different users, but I must be missing something very simple. My primary objective is to have user wrc1944 be able to transfer anything into "/home/rob." Thanks, wrc1944

Here's a copy of a post I made over at pclinuxonline, requesting new MDK rpms for Parted, and QTparted. Maybe someone here can offer some insight? Thanks, wrc1944 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ranger, Maybe I'm dense, but with DiskDrake I can't seem to find a way to move the location of a partition on the hard disk like you can with Partition Magic. As an example, on one test box, I'd like to delete two partions at the end of one hard disk, and then slide my /home partition to the end, leaving free space in front of the /home partition, and after the remaing MDK partitions. My objective is to then delete the remaining MDK partitions, and try installing Gentoo towards the front of the drive, retaining my /home (from MDK). If that fails, I then reinstall MDK. After reading the Gentoo install docs and reading their forum many times, it just seems safer to have all the free space to create the Gentoo partitions at the front of the drive instead of trying to create them with the old MDK /home right in the middle. This drive is only 9GB and almost full, so I don't want to try dual booting on it, as my 3GB /home has gotten almost full. There is no cd burner on this box to make a full /home backup with. Another question: How can DiskDrake, or for that matter Parted, safely resize a partition without loosing data, since your don't defrag linux partitions to consolidate all the data at the front of a partition? If you don't defrag, and after deleting and writing data to /home for a year, it would seem like the data could be anywhere on the disk- or am I still thinking in terms of windows file systems? All these operations would be easy with Partition Magic in windows. If there are ways to do this with DiskDrake, I'd sure like to be enlightened.