SilverSurfer60

Well the gnome desktop environment is available on the DVD and installs just fine, I have installed it myself a couple of days ago. As far as I am ware there is no One CD version of gnome if that answers your query.

Is it feasible for you to download the DVD.iso? I ask this as it would appear you have corruption on your burned CD. Either in the download or burning.

I cannot seem to be able to find how to stop dynamic putting a scanner icon on my Gnome desktop. Apart from uninstalling Xsane would someone point me in the right direction please?

I didn't mean to start a :D Just passing comment on what I've found with Gnome after not trying it for a long time. As Ian says one can customize this environment to your hearts content and it still works. It's lean 'n' it's working well for me. 'nuff said there.

A closer look at Kpvnc would certainly be start. You could take a look at permissions within Kvpnc. Just what you would be looking for I don't know. You could also take a look in any logs that are available. Other than that I have no more suggestions, sorry.

I never used to like gnome as I felt the icons were rather chunky and basic looking, and the desktop sparse. Well after having to use gnome on the old laptop I have been rather surprised to say the least. KDE is now off my computers as far as one can be. Obviously there are some apps that rely on kde libs put I can put up with that. On another note this gnome thing flies on my pc. It's staying until maybe kde can hold up the white flag and say a mistake has been made. Sorry to all the coders who worked hard on the creation, but it just is not ready for use yet. Long live Gnome. [moved from Talk-Talk by spinynorman]

It sounds like the DNS servers are having a spot of bother. Keep trying and I think things will return to normal.

Should we tell that Adamw fella how it's done? :D :P

:banana: Success, it was the options line in modprobe.conf along with the orinoco_cs driver. Well done and many many thanks.

Thank you Ian but I was ahead of you there and tried it. Something just put it back in modprobe.conf. I assume the hardware must be listed somewhere and has the said driver assigned. Have you any idea as to where to look? I seem to remember a long time ago using commands and utils to set up hardware, of course I can't remember what they were. I think before the time when these things were put into gui's.

Still going with this. An update: I have managed to get some info from ifconfig & iwconfig as below. ifconfig:- wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-60-B3-68-E5-0F-D0-8E-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:169 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:12308 (12.0 KiB) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100 wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:B3:68:E5:0F inet addr:169.254.31.244 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:168 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:10364 (10.1 KiB) TX bytes:39480 (38.5 KiB) Interrupt:3 Base address:0x100 iwconfig:- lo no wireless extensions. wifi0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"*********" Nickname:"*******" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:14:7F:A7:89:35 Bit Rate:2 Mb/s Sensitivity=1/3 Retry short limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:A01C-AF7A-C793-04EA-A49E-28CB-FA Security mode:open Power Management:off wlan0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"*************" Nickname:"**********" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:14:7F:A7:89:35 Bit Rate:2 Mb/s Sensitivity=1/3 Retry short limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:*********************** Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality=32/70 Signal level=-65 dBm Noise level=-98 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Also some output from syslog which may be of use drakconnect[3105]: No settings found for driver "hostap_cs" in category "network::connection::wireless" kernel: wifi0: invalid skb->cb magic (0x0000003c, expected 0xf08a36a2) One question I have is how do get the card to use the module orinico_cs instead of host_app please? In other distributions of Mandriva orinoco_cs is used. Thank you for your patience.

Thanks for the suggestion Scarecrow. Maybe I'll try something like that when I get this network card sorted out. I'm just in the process of installing 2009 yet again. It is doing my head in at the moment, but I will get there. :)

Thanks Adam I'll stay away from kde4, I've even gone back to 3.5 on my pc. I don't think kde4 is ready for mainstream yet. I tried going back to dhcp with no luck whatsoever. The router has always replied to a ping without exception prior to 2009 and still does if I boot up into 200.0 Ian, yes it was a dhcp entry that I deleted. I ony get the entry back if I boot up into 2008.0. Even with a static ip address the laptop does not show up in the list until I boot up into 2008. I deleted the entry again for the static address to try dhcp as suggested by Adamw, but, it will not register again till I reboot the laptop into 2008 and restart the router. Which I am going to do now.

No I got a false positive. Yes I have a green light on the applet yet when I try to ping the router I get Destination Host Unreachable. :wall:

Got it working. I deleted the entry in the access point (BT Home Hub) and connected using a static ip address. It's obviously something to do with DHCP. Any way many thanks for your perseverance and attempted help. If you do know the reason I would be glad to hear it. Thanks Again.

Definitely nothing else connected and the machine does not have any other network ports. As I say it does not come up when in mandriva 2008 either. Yet it is listed when I go into drakhardware in 2008 and 2009 so it must be detected. It is also set up in ifconfig & iwconfig, there is a script for it in /etc/sysconfgi/network-scripts (ifcfg-wlan0). The card has always worked very well in all the releases so far up until 2009. According to iwconfig wlan0 the card is associated with the ap. The only clue to work with is the lines in syslog which I typed in. I have also tried another card which works in 2008.0, but that will not connect in 2009.

The card is a Sitecom WN-PCC-01 IEEE.802.11b It is not listed with lspci, so I booted into 2008 and it wasn't listed there either. What I did notice that with iwconfig & ifconfig it is shown as eth0 not wlan0 Yes I am getting a feel for gnome on this laptop it leaves a nice big workspace.

Update: I have now installed 2009.0 as a dual boot, this time I have installed gnome, that'll please you Ian. Anyway it does run quite a bit faster and I don't have time to put the kettle on now. :P However the problem with the wifi still remains. When using drakconnect or drakconf method, they complete with 'Congratulations your Connection is complete. Someone is lying to me. I can't cut and paste my syslog but I get a line something like:- kernel : wifi0: invalid skb->magic (0x00000168, expected 0xf0836a2) dhclient: NO DHCPOFFERS received. Looks like a kernel problem to me, I have never come across this wifi0 before. It is even listed when I issue ifconfg in a konsole and tells me it:- Link encap: UNSPEC HWaddr 00-60-B3-68-E5-0F-A0-BF-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 and then the usual lines below. wlan0 output is all ok, receiving packets and sending them no problem. If I issue the iwconfig command I find that both wifi0 and wlan0 are associated with my access point :unsure: Any ideas are welcome. Thank you.

If you want to keep your kde set up you can install task-gnome which should install the components required. Log out of the current session and select gnome at the log in screen. Likewise if you want to rid your system of kde4, once logged into gnome you can uninstall task-kde which will remove any kde packages that are not required . Then kde will no longer be available at the log in screen.

Yes I would certainly do that if I could get the network up and running. But that will not perform even without a graphical desktop.

The laptop specs are:- Toshiba satellite S1800 CPU Celeron (Coppermine) 801.831 MHz Ram 256 MB <--------------------------------That's all I could afford at the time & it's been sufficient. Videocard CyberBlade/DSTN/Ai1 The wireless card is a sitecom WN-PCC-01 (This has worked with the auto selected driver with each distribution) Don't get me wrong I didn't expect it to fly, but it was painfully slow even, with numerous services disabled, and I was using kde4. (Ouch) What I meant about Mandriva on disk was the distribution was issued on a 3/4 disc set. That is not a complaint just that was the only way I could install on this machine without copying the DVD contents and using the method I described in 'Tips and Tricks'. The laptop does have what is supposed to be a DVD reader as standard, but I have never had it read anything other than commercially produced video discs. Possibly because I have used the wrong format i.e. DVD+R instead of the more expensive DVD-R. The only thing that I was perturbed about was the wireless card not working, which was fine with previous releases. If you wish I can go into details. Sorry Adamw, I didn't mean to rustle feathers. ;)

Well I got 2009 installed fine with the method I wrote in 'Tips and Tricks', however, the poor old machine was so slow I could launch an application and make a cup tea whilst it was ready. A slight exaggeration there, but it was still slow. The wireless card refused to work no matter what I did. Yes I googled and trawled through the Mandriva forums where a number of postees where having difficulty with cards that had worked previously as had mine. In the end I gave up, something I don't do easily, and am now in the process of putting back in 2007. That's the last version that was on cd's apart from the One version. It was suggested to try the One version of 2009. I tried that and that was even slower at starting than installing the full version, the wireless card didn't work in the end. I'll give it a while and maybe try again when a proper solution comes out. What I am disappointed mostly is that If I had been a newcomer and came up with a distro that behaved as 2009, I would have said goodbye to Mandriva. :sad:

If you want the sources to match what you are running then install what uname -r says, that way if you build a third party module it will have the correct sources. As John says and it says in the mcc descriptions you should install the developement rpm as it will contain all the headers you need. There are differences in the two packages you mentioned, just what I don't know.

The Howto My first attempt at a howto. I worked hard on getting the whole thing to completion. I hope it is useful.

I managed this task on a laptop that had Linux already installed albeit an old version. I also had a network (wireless) up and running. The first task was to copy the i586 folder from the dvd on my pc to the laptop, I used the /home directory as I would not be formatting this partition and I new where the directory was. The hard part was to get the grub loader to find the necessary files to boot from the i586 directory. This was accomplished in part by a useful utility on Mandriva's Webserver i.e. http://qa.mandriva.com/hd_grub.cgi A sample result from that site was :- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ title Mandrake Install root (hd0,5) kernel /i586/isolinux/alt0/vmlinuz ramdisk_size=128000 root=/dev/ram3 acpi=ht vga=788 automatic=method:disk,partition=hda5,directory=/home/i586 initrd /i586/isolinux/alt0/all.rdz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A cut and paste into /boot/grub/menu.lst was all that was required. The all important files needed to boot I have highlighted. When this is added to grub you will of course have a new entry in the list at boot time. Simply select Mandrake Install to install. A NOTE ABOUT PARTITIONS AND DRIVES. The /home partition is usually designated as /dev/sda6 when listed via 'df' and when viewed in 'drakconf'. For some unknown reason grub associates (hd0,5) as /home, unfortunately the cgi script at the website gave me (hd0,4) as the partition. So a little editing put it right. Should you put your /i586/ on another partition then you will need to work it out which one it is on. This is not too difficult when working with grub because if grub cannot find the files it will tell you so and give you the option to edit the lines until you get the correct one. Take note of what you put in your edit as the edits are not saved to disk. Once you have successfully booted the correct entry you will be presented with a dialog requesting the partition where your /i586/ directory is. If you have used the /home partition, select /dev/sda6 and OK. You will then see a dialog requesting the directory to use for the installation. Simply type in the boxi586. NOTE there is no forward slash before or after the entry. If all has gone well so far you should be presented with the installation screen that you all know so well. I have written this howto in the hope it maybe of help to someone. Please feel free to correct me on mistakes I have made. Enjoy.