ianw1974

How would I install it manually if I don't urpmi the kernel in?

I thought I would urpmi the source and kernel at the same time. Is that OK?

Glad it's all OK, I was about to say that the only other time I've seen this a problem is when a network card has been forced to a speed/duplex setting and the switch/hub was on auto-negotiate (or vice versa).

But as you're OK now, you won't need to worry about this! :P

OK, cool, I thought that would be the case, because I know some things rely on this when you compile them.

I'll have a go at this first thing in the morning and keep you posted.....

Do you have all machines using the DSL as the default gateway?

I have a similar setup (different IP addresses), but a handful of machines, a DSL router and a hardware firewall in between the internet connection. I had an icmp ping problem earlier because the Windows firewall was on one of the machine I tried to contact.

As you don't have the firewalls, this shouldn't be a problem for you.

When you configured the network, did you configure the following items:

IP

Subnet

Gateway

DNS entries

Hostname for your machine

I left zeroconf blank as it's not normally needed. I also left the fully qualified domainname blank when I configured the hostname, as it's not really needed anyhow.

I thought that might be the case. As the security update was flagged, I thought it prudent to upgrade the kernel so that I don't have to worry about anything! :P

Just to clarify, when you ping by IP address, can you ping any other system. Or can you just ping yourself?

Do you have any firewall software on the other machines (or even this one) which might be blocking icmp (ping) requests?

Also, how do you access the internet? Via a DSL router or some other means?

OK, thanks for that. The only reason I am upgrading it is because the kernel-source is showing as needing a security update in update-source, so I thought that if I upgrade the kernel-source, I should also upgrade the kernel at the same time.

OK, I'll not load .11 for now then. I'll see if I can do a bit of googling to see if I can find out more in terms of what kernels can be applied to 10.1.

Unless it's posted here first!!!!! :P

Many thanks for your help on all this! Oh, and can I remove the old 1-12 kernel after the install of 1-24?

Did you install any other desktops like Gnome, etc? Have you tried logging into one of these, and does it work? Is it just KDE that's affected?

What graphics card does your laptop have? I found a problem with my graphics card on 10.1 Official, which I didn't find with 10.0. The only real difference between the two is XFree86 in 10.0 and XOrg in 10.1 that may have been why.

What you'll need to do is install the drivers for your video card, and hopefully you should be fine. I expect that you won't be able to get into any of the GUI's, including Gnome, but it's worth a shot just to make sure it's not KDE that's screwed.

When you installed MDK 10.1, did you check the final screen for the hardware and was the Graphics card showing as "Not Configured"? Mine was, so I configured it before I rebooted for the first time after the installation.

Sorry had to add as I forgot something. It's most likely that you'll have to install the video card driver from the CLI. This is so that X isn't running, and when you boot into it again, it should be with the new drivers.

Cool, I'll go with that for the time being.

Did you happen to use 2.6.11 on MDK 10.1? Or did you only install that on 10.2?

I did that with 2.6.11, and then I had the long boot prob and sound failed when ALSA went from 1.0.6 to 1.0.8

The system still booted however, it just took a lot longer to boot than the original kernel of 2.6.8.1-12.

So, if I upgrade to 2.6.8.1-24, would this be a major problem for me and introduce what I experienced so far (except that I don't have KDE 3.4 this time)? Or does anyone know if 2.6.11 kernel runs OK with MDK 10.1 OE without any additional changes other than the updates?

I'm new to all this sort of stuff, so bear with me if I sound "simple"!

I've not tried the new version yet, but I guess I'll probably have to at some point soon. I'm still on the "Mandrake" version before they changed their name.

I have another thread on kernel going at the moment, so can see if that sheds any light, and I might start a sound thread too later on.

It's on my laptop, a built-in Intel one, ALSA show as intel 8x0. It works normally just not after the kernel upgrade to 2.6.11

Thanks for that, I've appreciated all your replies re 3.4 upgrade over the last day or so!

I think I'll probably wait for a release that makes it a lot easier for me. I know that's a bit of a cop-out, but I won't have to worry too much about trashing my system when I know it'll work better :P

Just out of interest, will a US Robotics internal PCI modem work with Linux 10.1?

I've not tried, but I know it told me to visit linmodem.org or something when I first installed Linux. Since I use broadband, I've never had to use the modem, but I'm sure there will be a point in time that I will.

I have a hardware firewall that runs Linux Coldfire, and that works quite well. However, as it's a hardware firewall, it's totally separate from my Linux installations, so means I have more resources free on my system for other things! :D

Going back like four years or so I used Mandrake 7.2, which was OK, but 10.x is a far improvement and is my fave distro of Linux to date (not that I've used any others so maybe I can't say that :P ).

I only have 128Kbps broadband here in Poland, so when I'm back in the UK this summer, I will be hitting the office's 512Kbps to get my latest large updates, and maybe even LE2005! Unless I wait for the next release later this year or whenever it's due out!

Excellent :D

I'm now fully back up and running with 10.1 OE and no KDE 3.4, although I do like what I saw, and would like to upgrade sometime in the near future!

I just need to figure out ensuring a stable upgrade without any probs!!! And reading the KDE website is way over my head at the minute!

I think I have a lot of reading to do.......... :P

I built my system today with MDK 10.1 OE and applied all updates (Normal/Security/Bug Fixes), because of an unsuccessful KDE 3.4 upgrade.

Anyway, that aside. I installed the kernel source for kernel-2.6.8.1-12, as I needed this to install the drivers for my Intel video card.

What i subsequently found is that a security update has appeared to upgrade the kernel source to 2.6.8.1-24. If I do this, surely I will also need to urpmi the kernel version for this as well?!?

Yesterday, before the end of my KDE 3.4 upgrade, I did apply kernel 2.6.11 as I thought it would fix a few problems, but I found it took a real long time to boot, so I figured that this kernel may not be for 10.1 or whether the KDE 3.4 upgrade didn't help either.

Whichever way, what's my best way forward. Shall I upgrade the kernel to 2.6.8.1-24 and install then upgrade the kernel source that matches this, or apply the later kernel? If so, is it just a case of installing the rpm, or are there a few more things I need to take into consideration?

Appreciate your help on this one, as I'm trying to save another rebuild!!!!! :D

I sure liked what I saw of it, so I know I'll be at it again soon!! :P

I pulled everything from Thacs rpm's, so am assuming it was the latest QT. I unfortunately can't check now, since I've reinstalled, but I'll try again when I'm brave enough :D

I have kind of given up on this for the time being. Reasons are that it seemed very buggy, lots of little problems I experienced. Them being:

1. Corruption of mdkkdm (although I know I could fix this easily enough).

2. Copying data to my usb hard drive (found it actually left 0 byte files on the usb hard drive so I lost the data when I reformatted and went back to 10.1 OE and KDE 3.2.3).

3. Only log out buttons, nothing for shutdown or reboot.

4. Firefox issues, sometimes would run sometimes would not.

5. When using the system, it would periodically freeze for about 10-15 seconds before I could continue again. This could easily be forced by scrolling through the wallpaper when configuring the desktop

6. Sound was OK on Kernel 2.6.8.1-12, but I figured an upgrade to 2.6.11 would be better and then my sound got screwed. Tried the original kernel and booted OK, but no sound. Removed 2.6.11 kernel and system wouldn't boot at all then!

I may have another go later, but I'll investigate it a bit further, and possibly install using the source from kde.org. I can't figure out how konstruct works, but then I am a newbie to all this so maybe is why I shouldn't be doing such an upgrade right now!!!

However, my Xorg upgrade worked a treat prior to the KDE upgrade, so I know I will be doing that again anyhow.

I seem to be up and running, but I had to change the display manager from mdk-kdm to XDM. Anyone know how to fix this little prob?

What happened was that when I logged in, it just gave me an Xterm of which I could then type startkde to get KDE up and running. How can I go back to mdk-kdm without errors?

I also seem to find that Firefox has stopped working. Perhaps I need to reinstall it.

Think I've resolved this now. First, I reconfigured the graphics card in harddrake to the Intel 85x as it was before, and ensured the Xorg and 3D Accellerated was selected.

Some of the OpenGL progs I mentioned above started to work, some didn't.

I then removed "xscreensavers" which seemed to resolve the problem for all the other apps.

I've still not figured out how to get the updated drivers working for the Intel card, however, I have also just upgraded to the latest version of Xorg to see if that would make things any easier.

Am currently downloading kdebase and all dependencies, so hopefully should have a working system later!

Will keep you posted.