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I thought I'd give it a whirl, since I remember you mentioned it was a lot faster, and it does appear to be so - albeit these little niggles to get it to work. I don't know if there are many problems, I've only just started using, but I've found so far:

update-menus -v command to fix the menu double entries.

Bootup:

Entering non-interactive startup

mknod: '/dev/dri/card0' No such file or directory

Although, when I'm logged in, /dev/dri/card0 does exist, so not sure what I'm supposed to do to get rid of this?

Another is that when I choose Reboot or Shutdown from within KDE, it goes straight back to the mdkkdm menu, rather than rebooting or shutting down. When at the mdkkdm screen, if I click reboot (select Windows), or Halt, it does the command fine. Again, not sure the resolution to this either.

Well, just a couple of errors so far. First the some of the menus have double entries so am just running the update-menus -v command.

The other errors I have are:

Bootup:

Entering non-interactive startup

mknod: '/dev/dri/card0' No such file or directory

Although, when I'm logged in, /dev/dri/card0 does exist, so how can I stop this error from appearing?

Another is that when I choose Reboot or Shutdown from within KDE, it goes straight back to the mdkkdm menu, rather than rebooting or shutting down. When at the mdkkdm screen, if I click reboot (select Windows), or Halt, it does the command fine. Anyone know a resolution to this?

Try running gnome-font-properties, and see if this helps make it any better?

I've just updated to KDE 3.4 on 10.1 OE, and it's all working a treat! I've not tested much yet, but all seems good so far!

I only had an issue with the mdkkdm mentioned earlier, but that's all solved after removing and reinstalling!

AussieJohn, just to let you know, I didn't give up on KDE 3.4!!!!!

I've just spent today downloading again, because I was adamant that I would make it work this time!

Well, I started at 9am, and finished at, well now! 7.22pm. My system is up and running with KDE 3.4 and error free! Well almost, I have one on bootup, but gonna post that separate.

OK, so what did I do?

System is MDK 10.1 OE.

1. Install XOrg 6.8.2 from Thac's rpms.

2. Install kdebase and all it's dependencies (all the rest from Thac's rpm's).

3. urpmi --auto-select --auto to pick up everything else out-of-date. There was an error trying to get kdewebdev because of a prob with quanta-kommander (see later point).

4. urpmi quanta-kommander.

5. urpmi kdewebdev (solves the prob in point 3!).

6. updatedb and checked for rpmnew's (if any, replace their corresponding file). I used "slocate rpmnew" to find them (thanks for that one adam!).

7. Removed .kde directory in my home directory - I think it would cause problems otherwise, so best to start with a new profile!

8. Init 3 to a prompt.

9. urpme mdkkdm (made a list of the dependencies to reinstall later).

10. urpme kdebase-kdm (it wasn't there, but just in case it might be).

11. urpmi mdkkdm (and it's dependencies).

12. urpmi all the other stuff that was removed with point 9.

Now I can login at the GUI with the mdkkdm screen, which I couldn't do before. The only thing now is that I have the kernel source for 2.6.11-6 and I'm running kernel 2.6.8-24, so I'm going to have to update the kernel next I think!

So now I'm working and running with KDE 3.4. Thank you Thac for the KDE rpm's! Oh, and the XOrg too :P

I found that if I disabled harddrake, when I connected my USB hard disk, it wouldn't pick it up. Even if I tried to mount it!

Prob just my machine :P

I used to have lots of probs with dl's. I would get errors in the Event Log relating to problems with the TCP/IP getting to maximum connections or something. I just kinda lived with it. At least until now I'm using an alternative OS for it.

I always turned of UPNP though as I'm not using it anyway. Dunno if that helps!

Some other things I turned off was the service for wdfmgr.exe if you see this running in your task list. Windows User Mode Driver Framework or something. You don't need it, so I just stop and disable.

The other, is because SP2 used to crash my machine because of an app that it didn't like (ad blocker), I turned off DEP too. Not in the GUI, but edit boot.ini and replace "OptIn" with "AlwaysOff". I don't run scripts attached to spam emails or open dodgy stuff anyway, so it's no risk to me to disable it.

For some reason, it was already disabled on my system, but it all seems to work OK so far.

When I read the service description of postfix, I could see it wasn't relating to anything particular I was using, so I thought it would be safe to disable :P

I like the beeps!

Well, actually, I'm not too fussed really. It's on my test system (Wife's Computer), and she only uses MDK for Frozen Bubble! At least I got sound working for that, she'd be doing my head in otherwise. :P

PS - She doesn't know it's a test system! Best not let her read this!!!

True! Would agree with that! Else you'd be better doing another kind of search than to prepare the database first lol.

I'll leave atd to do it. Since I rebuilt my test system though, it hasn't ran yet, so I might have to run it initially to get myself going :-)

If you stop the Shorewall service you'll be fine. Internet Sharing shouldn't have turned this option on. If you have problems with internet after stopping shorewall, you can always turn it back on.

To stop it, from cli type "chkconfig shorewall off". Need to su first to get root privileges.

Actually, here is the proper solution. I found that after I installed some development apps, it went screwy again. I'm not sure, but I think fontconfig or libfontconfig might have something to do with the problem.

Anyway, since I had Gnome installed as a desktop GUI this time, I logged into Gnome, set all the settings I wanted (keyboard, font sizes), saved it when I logged out.

Then when I went into KDE, I had to use the Autostart Theo mentioned earlier, and all is well. The fonts are perfect!

So if that helps Theo, go for it! Although, Gnome does take up a lot of space, so depends on whether you think it's worth it?!?

The easiest way in KDE is to do the following:

System/Configuration/Configure Your Computer/Security/Firewall

Click Advanced button, and in the box below type 6881/tcp (this is the port Azureus uses).

I've only ever had to just enabled 6881, rather than any other ports in between up to 6890.

Sounds to me you have your firewall enabled in Mandrake. Either add the port, or tick the box Everything(No Firewall).

Or, check in System/Services whilst your in Configure Your Computer and see if "Shorewall" is running.

Anyone have any more ideas on this before I start a rebuild? (lol).

Basically, I think the problem has to do with this fact. I installed 10.0 OE from 3 CD's, and because this has ALSA 1.0.2, it doesn't have support for the soundcard on installation.

Regardless of the fact that I then updated the system and installed the latest kernel, ran alsaconf and then have sound for some things, KDE still has problems.

Since 10.1 OE has ALSA 1.0.6, I should have the support at initial install. I did try a urpmi upgrade from 10.0 to see if this would resolve the problem, but it didn't. KDE still has the sound problem (works for test, but not for anything else), whereas some programs don't and sound works fine (Frozen Bubble for instance is OK).

Thanks for everyone's help so far, very much appreciated. If I can't resolve, then a rebuild will be done from 10.1 OE as I reckon that'll be the easy way, rather than trying to figure out what's happening. I know not the best, as it's better to learn why there's only partial sound and resolve.

Solved it now. I've found the font problem was prob due to missing gnome components. I reinstalled it all from scratch just to make sure and found since I have KDE and Gnome installed it's all working fine.

Before I didn't have gnome, and that is why I had all the probs methinks!

There are a number of ways you can upgrade:

1. Use CD/DVD media, boot from it and choose Upgrade.

2. Remove existing urpmi sources, and point to the 2005 sources (main, contrib, updates, plf-free, plf-nonfree).

The first option is probably the best if you don't have a fast internet connection. Mine is only 128Kbps, and is just about bearable to use the urpmi sources (if you don't mind a six hour wait to complete the upgrade!).

If you do the second option, su and supply root password then type "urpmi --auto-select --auto".

This will look through your existing setup, and download the updates for everything you've got installed at present.

Once you've finished, update your kernel to the latest, and also your kernel source too if you have this installed. Then check that udev is installed, and check LILO to make sure any devfs=mount is changed to devfs=nomount. If they don't exist, then it'll be OK for udev.

After installing udev, reboot the system and check for errors. If any, resolve. If not, remove devfsd and then check by rebooting to see if there are any errors. If there are, resolve or post here to find out more about the errors and resolution.

Reason why to install udev is because devfsd isn't supported in updated kernels. You'll need to run the updated kernels for the latest version anyway, so best to switch now. Udev is better anyhow IMHO.

KDE 3.4 is the latest version. If you add a urpmi source for thacs rpms you'll be able to install easily this way. You'll need to make sure you have all the sources though in addition to this (main, contrib, updates, plf-free, plf-nonfree) as they depend on these.

I also found that if I run updatedb, it'll clear it manually! I've still got atd enabled anyway just in case.....

Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, OO Writer, Gimp, Kaffeine, KAlarm (to remind me to watch TV programs in case I get carried away with what I'm doing!), FooBilliard + Frozen Bubble (when I'm relaxing).

Oh, and urpmi or the GUI for updating, installing software, etc for the test system I crash regularly for my learning process!!!

Glad it all went well, and everything is now up-and-running!

Further note, doesn't remember that my keyboard is supposed to be BRITISH! Keeps reverting back to US format everytime I reboot.

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I've added the gnome-settings thing to my Autostart, so that should resolve I guess.

Shame it just doesn't "remember" it.

Maybe there's a way to add it as a service? chkconfig add or similar perhaps?

Just a thought.....I've just logged in as root as well (well su to be precise), to see if when I set it here, whether the system remembers them. I'll post back in a sec after I reboot.

Everytime I start my system, any apps I run that run with the GTK fonts are always small.

Then, after I run gnome-font-properties, they return to normal size.

How can I get the system to remember the size permanently?

I'm running KDE, and the other fonts are fine. It's just anything that works with gtk fonts.

If you have on CD/DVD, then you can choose upgrade when you boot from the CD. You won't need to set urpmi sources.

I assumed you were wanting to upgrade over the internet, so apologies if I misled you!

It's not too bad switching from devfsd to udev. Just make sure udev is installed, and that you reboot and boot normally before removing devfsd.

You may have to change the LILO configuration so it says devfs=nomount as well. I think on mine it did it automatically.

With the kernel, you can install as you mentioned urpmi kernel-2.6.11-6mdk.

I usually install the kernel-source at the same time!

I upgraded 10.1 to LE2005 and it worked more or less OK, other than I couldn't get my Intel video card working properly.

But other than that, I was up and running. You might be better with a clean install than an upgrade, but the way to upgrade is as follows:

Remove your existing urpmi sources and set up ones pointing to 2005 instead. Set up all of them.

Once this has been done, from the CLI type:

urpmi --auto-select --auto

This will ensure everything you have installed is updated using the urpmi sources. This could take a little while depending on speed of your internet connection.

It's also best that once this has been done, to update your kernel to 2.6.11-6mdk, and download the source too if you feel you need it, or have a previous source installed.

Then you need to install udev, as devfsd is unsupported in newer kernels, which you will be running at present with 10.0. Reboot after installing udev, and then remove devfsd.

Once it boots OK, you can remove your old kernel and source.