Guest Malaidas Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) Hi All, I hope someone can help me here. I have currently an installation of Suse 10.3 andam trying to upgrade to Mandriva 2009-1. However I have a serious problem. I've downloaded and written the iso image to CD and this seems to be fine. However when I try to install, it lets me enter locale information etc and then after I've selected my keyboard layout it crashes out saying "Could not start kdeinit4. Please check your installation" Clicking ok takes me to a black screen from which I can only reset. I'm a linux newbie, can anyone suggest how I might get round this problem? Edited June 11, 2009 by Malaidas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Welcome aboard. :) Just a basic question: Are you installing from scratch or are you really trying to "upgrade" Suse with Mandriva? In the latter scenario, trouble IS expected, as the two linux-distributions are very, very different from each other and not really compatible (Suse is looseley based on Slackwares architecture and system-design, while Mandriva is rather based on Red Hats architecture and system-design). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Malaidas Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Thanks, I'm simply installing by booting the CD, hoping for a 'from scratch' installation. Just for information: Suse's been giving me major problems, particularly with the inability to setup my network card correctly (I've tried 2 different cards, both of which are in its HCL but neither will successfully work) so I'm hoping Mandriva will do a better job. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Malaidas Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Trying to put XP on first now and booting from there. not holding much hope that this will work though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Okay, if you are installing Mandriva from scratch, then you always have a backup-desktop with IceWM. You can apply from there some patches to your system using the Mandriva Control Center (MCC, aka. "Configure your computer"). I guess that you ran into one of the bloody KDE4 bugs. I used KDE4 myself for some time and found it horrible and bug-ridden, so I went back to good old Gnome. Try to apply the updates to your system for now, then let's see if it is fixed or if we need to take a closer look at your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 KDE 4.2.X is fairly stable- no kdeinit errors and plasma crashes anymore. You can log in to the backup desktop environment (IceWM, as suggested above), and from there call the control center (mcc) and perform a system upgrade. This may solve the problem. In short, I agree with almost everything to Arctic, except the buggy nature of KDE4, which is no more much of an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Off-topic: Until yesterday, this laptop ran with Mandriva 2009.1 and KDE4. I still found it horrible to work with it and encountered many plasma crashes and freezes when customizing things within the control center. It is still bug-ridden, but is admittedly not as horrible as it was 6 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Malaidas Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 How do I set up a backup IceVM. I haven;t had any options except for locale ones, before it crashes? This is booting from bios. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 When you install Mandriva, IceWM is automatically installed by default as a fallback-alternative. When you are at the login-manager, you can select - using the symbols on the lower right side - the desktop-session you want to use. There should be options like drak3D, KDE, IceWM, secured session etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2 Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 When you install Mandriva, IceWM is automatically installed by default as a fallback-alternative. That was changed in the 2009.1 release. Default light environment is now LXDE (Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment) instead of icewm in all available isos.The quote is from here: 2009.1_Notes#Icewm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Uh... had forgotten about that. Heh... anyway, there is a backup-option available. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 LXDE is most probably easier to use for the average Joe, but it's neither that lightweight, nor equally stable to IceWM. IMO this is a dubious decision... but anyway, since the only real dependencies of LXDE are GTK+ and python, it should work right-out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnnyl Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Hi, Another newbie here! I'm trying to setup 2009.1 on 3 Dell Optiplex GX260 machines to be used by our staff for internet access in their breaktimes. I also get the "Could not start KDEINIT4" error, and then the localhost login prompt. Considering I'm a complete beginner how do I 1)bring up a GUI and 2) get the GUI to be the default? It doesnt really matter as far as i'm concerned which GUI is used as it will only be used for web browsing. Any help or advice gratefully received. Thanks John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 You can do like that: - When the login manager appears, pick LXDE and enter there. - Open pcmanfm (the filemanager of LXDE) anf first make it show the hidden files/directories ( ctrl+h ) - Find the directory .kde4 and delete it (or better move it at another place). - Open the control center ( mcc ) and perform a full system upgrade. - Logout of LXDE, and now pick the KDE4 option in the login manager, and try to login. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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