Guest siko9 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Hi again , I have a recently installed MDK 9.1 system, I want to apply the post install updates, but since I plan to install mdk on several partition I downloaded the updates so I can download-once-update-many-times :P My question is, where do I start? there are a lot of packages to update but I don't know if I should follow any specific order. While I install packages with rpmdrake, I am also very comfortable with installing packages from command line with "rpm -Uvh xxx" (or -ivh), but this looks like a serious job. i could really use some words from experience. Thanks in advance !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Hmmmm...try this. On the machine that you want to do the updates on, go to the directory where the rpms are and run genhdlist to create an hdlist for just that directory: genhdlist /dir/where/my/stuff/is Open mcc and click 'Software Management' Then click 'Software Sources Manager' If you don't see a source called 'update_source' (just like that, without the quotes), create one. Then point it to the directory where you put all the updates and the path to the hdlist would be ./hdlist.cz. Then click 'Ok' and you should be able to go to Mandrake Update and it'll show you what's in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siko9 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 One question before I try that tomorrow, I guess I will see the list of all there is to upgrade, should I upgrade some particular packgs first ? all at once ? tnxs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 When you do it this way, you'll just be able to put a checkmark in all the boxes you want to update and Mandrake Update handles the order they need to be done in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I would suggest that you start with updating anything to do with draktools (i.e. has 'drak' in the name) and urpmi/gurpmi/rpmdrake as they had some bugs initially and you will be more stable once those basic tools are updated. After that, I'd pick a few packages at a time rather than a whole bunch. That way if you run into any dependency things you won't be trying to do too much at one time. I'd leave the kernel and XFree86 patches until the end and follow the instructions in other posts on updating those. It should work well. I updated my second machine via a cd using this approach. Enjoy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Scrimpshire Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I'd leave the kernel and XFree86 patches until the end and follow the instructions in other posts on updating those. As far as I know, it's still a baaaaad idea to update the kernel using Mandrake Update, so if you are going to do it that way, don't update the kernel using my method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Steve Scrimpshire wrote: As far as I know, it's still a baaaaad idea to update the kernel using Mandrake Update, so if you are going to do it that way, don't update the kernel using my method. And I say AMEN! Sorry, I should have been clearer instead of just referring to other posts... If you want to upgrade the kernel try this link, it works great! http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/kernelupdate.php For XFree86 update here's my earlier post: http://www.mandrakeusers.org/viewtopic.php?t=7864 I like to download to hd via ftp, then copy files to a directory I use for installs. I then use a CD of the updates for a source to update my other machines. On low bandwidth connection this method pays off big for reinstalls and sharing with other users. I keep my /home/kelly/updates directory synched to a mdk updates mirror. It is fine to install kernel-docs and kernel-source via the Mdk Update, but please do not try to install the kernel that way! Steve is correct! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siko9 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Well, thank you very much guys !! i'll folow yor tips, but I always felt a little daunted about messing with the kernel, maybe I won't go as far as to update the kernel (everything works just fine in my sys right now). On a side note, I remember a warning from mandrake about some impornant bug in some kernels about a month ago, are they fixed now? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I was pretty shakey the first time or two I updated a kernel. But if you follow the link I gave you above, it is really easy. You just need to be cautious and comfortable on the cli. The kernel that had a security problem (.24mdk) was pulled from the download sites. I am running 2.4.21-0.25mdk which is the latest. The original is .13mdk and it is fine to run too. There are some features in the new kernel that help some newer hardware and tighten security, but most of us don't need em. Me, I just like to tweak! Enjoy the updating! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Updating the kernel with the mandrake rpm's is easy. It does not remove the old kernel, so you can boot either kernel, until you are satisfied with the results. The only note is that when you settle down to a specific kernel, you need to indtall the kernel sources for that kernel if you do any compiling on your machine. (Nvidia drivers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siko9 Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hi again, I'm sorry, I decided to re-download the updates again because I had done that a couple of months ago. I had downloaded the RPMS directory, but now I wonder if I need to download the whole structure in "updates", including "base" and "SRPMS". Sorry for wasting your time Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixthusdan Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 The rpms are fine. The source rpms are used for compiling new rpms on your computer in your environment. Theoretically, it gives rpms that fit like a glove. But it is debateable how much better the system really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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