paCkeTroUTer Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 anyone know what my problem is ? I don't like the idea of running my MozillaFirebird under root user for security reasons. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GorGor Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 unless there is a better suggestion why not copy Moz into your HOME directory where you have write read execute permissions. then if you are using konqueror right hand click folder and tick the subfiles and redo the permissions thingee so that you are the owner of those files with execute permission? then your command would be /home/your name/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Thats called cheating :D ... , thanks for the tip anyway Until I know whats wrong with the setup I will use my resource hungry mozilla browser. The reason I installed MozillaFirebird was due to its speed and less resources taken. anybody else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 First, I'm no expert, but my Firebird .6 works fine. From the official MozillaFirebird download site: How To Install The official releases don't have installers, which means that you need to install Mozilla Firebird manually. If you're using Windows, you can download an unofficial installer which takes care of this whole process, including the creation of application shortcuts. If you're not using Windows, or if you prefer to download the official binaries, the instructions are as follows: Once you have downloaded the compressed (zipped) file, use Winzip or gzip to uncompress Mozilla Firebird to an empty folder. Navigate to the folder you placed the files in. If you're running Windows, start the MozillaFirebird.exe file (the one with the red fire icon). If you're running Linux, start the MozillaFirebird script. Note: Do not unzip Mozilla Firebird to a directory that already contains a previous version of Mozilla Firebird. Either delete the existing directory, move it out of the way or create a new directory. If you install Mozilla Firebird on top of an existing Mozilla Firebird or Mozilla directory you will have problems. I think you have made it hard by putting it in /usr/bin and it doesn't need to be there. You now have to be root to run it. As a regular user follow the instructions above and run the script in the directory on your /home/yourusername/whateverdirectoryuputitin/ by cd'ing to that directory and from console type "MozillaFirebird" and it will soar! I put a menu entry called Firebird in using menudrake within MCC System and it is as follows: /home/kelly/downloads/Firebird/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird I then drug the menu item to the kicker and have a launch icon on kicker which is what I use 99% of the time as it is much faster to reach! You'll have to copy the file and do this for each user and root doesn't need to be setup at all on it. (root can run anyone's files right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 Thanks kmack.. much appreciated I think I'll sue that guy who put up that little tutorial I'll follow the instructions of putting MozillaFirebird into my home directory. Thanks to GorGor too for advising the same. I just needed a confirmation that it was the right thing to do because I was confused with what that tut showed me to do and it was not working as normal user. :mandrake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 I think I'll sue that guy who put up that little tutorial Frustrating experiences teach us many things! :o Most of what I've learned about computers and especially gnu/linux comes from having a problem and figuring it out (usually with help from others like here on MUsB). When I went to college in '67 we used punch cards on a Univac machine that filled the basement of a large building. Since then, I've made many mistakes and experienced lots of challenges along my journey of using computers! Actually, Firebird documentation leaves a bit to be desired and the install info is buried. Once you find it, it is almost too easy to use it! As a general rule, it is almost always better to follow the developer's instructions than those of anyone else. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 8, 2003 Report Share Posted October 8, 2003 As a general rule, it is almost always better to follow the developer's instructions than those of anyone else. :wink: good tip ! :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 I am still having problems starting up MozillaFirebird as normal user. My problem is the same as shown here in this thread http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=22513 As instructed in the MozillaFirebird documentation, I have untarred all the contents into my home directory and can't run it from there either. if I run it as root I can launch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Hmmmm. Starting to wonder if you got a bad download or something. Question: Did you untar as root? That would have given ownership to root and not user. If so, delete the directory and try it again as user. Here's my permissions so you can compare with yours: [kelly@localhost MozillaFirebird]$ ls -l total 3892 drwxrwxr-x 16 kelly kelly 4096 Jun 15 17:08 chrome/ drwxrwxr-x 3 kelly kelly 8192 Oct 10 14:42 components/ drwxrwxr-x 6 kelly kelly 4096 May 17 06:31 defaults/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 kelly kelly 11551 Jun 21 14:24 firebird.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 kelly kelly 8416 Jun 18 17:39 hs_err_pid2085.log drwxrwxr-x 2 kelly kelly 4096 May 17 05:54 icons/ -rw-r--r-- 1 kelly kelly 708 Jun 15 17:08 install.log drwxrwxr-x 3 kelly kelly 4096 May 17 05:40 ipc/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 152432 May 17 06:45 libgkgfx.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 114204 May 17 06:45 libgtkembedmoz.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 16828 May 17 06:45 libgtksuperwin.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 12440 May 17 06:45 libgtkxtbin.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 102908 May 17 06:45 libjsj.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 458976 May 17 06:45 libmozjs.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 50668 May 17 06:45 libmozz.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 191360 May 17 06:45 libnspr4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 399176 May 17 06:45 libnss3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 173692 May 17 06:45 libnssckbi.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 15780 May 17 06:45 libplc4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 9412 May 17 06:45 libplds4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 133248 May 17 06:45 libsmime3.so* -rw-rw-r-- 1 kelly kelly 476 May 17 06:39 libsoftokn3.chk -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 418448 May 17 06:45 libsoftokn3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 126244 May 17 06:45 libssl3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 44176 May 17 06:45 libxlibrgb.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 110832 May 17 06:45 libxpcom_compat.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 914116 May 17 06:45 libxpcom.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 15064 May 17 06:45 libxpistub.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 5140 May 17 06:45 mangle* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 2959 May 17 06:42 MozillaFirebird* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 63508 May 17 06:45 MozillaFirebird-bin* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 8968 May 17 06:45 mozilla-xremote-client* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 17100 May 17 06:45 mozipcd* drwxrwxr-x 2 kelly kelly 4096 Jun 16 19:51 plugins/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 4828 May 17 06:45 regchrome* -rw-r--r-- 1 kelly kelly 335 Jun 15 17:08 registry -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 62648 May 17 06:45 regxpcom* drwxrwxr-x 8 kelly kelly 4096 May 17 06:45 res/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 10998 Apr 19 10:12 run-mozilla.sh* drwxrwxr-x 2 kelly kelly 4096 May 17 06:27 searchplugins/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 62604 May 17 06:45 shlibsign* -rw-rw-r-- 1 kelly kelly 193 Jun 16 17:50 Speedup for userjs file.txt -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 13184 May 17 06:45 TestIPC* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 4280 May 17 06:45 timebombgen* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 17276 May 17 06:45 tmModuleTest* -rwxrwxr-x 1 kelly kelly 27000 May 17 06:45 xpicleanup* Hope that helps a bit. Key in on the MozillaFirebird entries and compare them closely. My FIrebird runs fine by going to the directory and giving the ./MozillaFirebird command but I have it setup on a menu and launcher now so rarely start from cmd line. EDIT: Make sure you run it as ./ and not just MozillaFirebird... i.e. you need to type ./MozillaFirebird at cmd line to run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anon Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 OK, this is what you do. Do you have Kpackage installed? if not go to software manager and install it. Just type Kpackage in the search box. Next, get the latest Mandrake version of Firebird from our server. ftp://mandrake-forum.org/pub/Misc Then click on the rpm. Kpackage will open up. Click on the file and hit install, new pane will open up,enter root password to install. Next, open a console or term ( no need to be root or su) type. MozillaFirebird Thats it, done. Create shortcut to desktop or use menudrake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Hmmmm. Starting to wonder if you got a bad download or something. Question: Did you untar as root? That would have given ownership to root and not user. If so, delete the directory and try it again as user. Didn't think it was a bad download until you mentioned it. I just deleted the untarred folder and untarred it again as normal user and tried executing the MozillaFirebird and still no good. So I compared your list of files and I think a couple of files are missing in my untarred version. So I guess I'll go for an other download and see if that helps. If not I'll see what anon has instructed me to do. Thanks again for your help. [jeffery@localhost MozillaFirebird]$ ./MozillaFirebird bash: ./MozillaFirebird: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied [jeffery@localhost MozillaFirebird]$ ls -l total 4204 drwxrwxr-x 16 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:54 chrome/ drwxrwxr-x 2 jeffery jeffery 8192 Jul 28 19:55 components/ drwxrwxr-x 6 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:43 defaults/ drwxrwxr-x 2 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:53 icons/ drwxrwxr-x 3 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 18:49 ipc/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 162936 Jul 28 19:55 libgkgfx.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 113796 Jul 28 19:55 libgtkembedmoz.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 18564 Jul 28 19:55 libgtksuperwin.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 12724 Jul 28 19:55 libgtkxtbin.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 112500 Jul 28 19:55 libjsj.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 517448 Jul 28 19:55 libmozjs.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 53224 Jul 28 19:55 libmozz.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 208492 Jul 28 19:55 libnspr4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 435448 Jul 28 19:55 libnss3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 179796 Jul 28 19:55 libnssckbi.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 16032 Jul 28 19:55 libplc4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 10124 Jul 28 19:55 libplds4.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 149384 Jul 28 19:55 libsmime3.so* -rw-rw-r-- 1 jeffery jeffery 476 Jul 28 19:55 libsoftokn3.chk -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 455028 Jul 28 19:55 libsoftokn3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 136736 Jul 28 19:55 libssl3.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 47208 Jul 28 19:55 libxlibrgb.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 123724 Jul 28 19:55 libxpcom_compat.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 1020880 Jul 28 19:55 libxpcom.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 14596 Jul 28 19:55 libxpistub.so* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 5004 Jul 28 19:55 mangle* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 2959 Jul 28 19:53 MozillaFirebird* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 62684 Jul 28 19:55 MozillaFirebird-bin* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 9276 Jul 28 19:55 mozilla-xremote-client* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 51560 Jul 28 19:55 mozipcd* drwxrwxr-x 2 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:55 plugins/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 15212 Jul 28 19:55 regchrome* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 81984 Jul 28 19:55 regxpcom* drwxrwxr-x 8 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:54 res/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 10998 Apr 19 13:12 run-mozilla.sh* drwxrwxr-x 2 jeffery jeffery 4096 Jul 28 19:38 searchplugins/ -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 70564 Jul 28 19:55 shlibsign* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 4012 Jul 28 19:55 timebombgen* -rwxrwxr-x 1 jeffery jeffery 29204 Jul 28 19:55 xpicleanup* [jeffery@localhost MozillaFirebird]$ On a side note is it possible to check my download packages whether it contains all the files after I finished downloading and unpacking to avoid this kinda thing to happen again ? I know something like this takes place when you download packages like php or apache from their websites... I think it involves some md5 checking.... not sure how it is really done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmack Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Bottom line, it is much better if you follow anon's suggestion and use the rpm install method. I didn't realize anyone had made one yet! Delete (move to Trash Can if you want to save it for a bit to be sure) the MozillaFirebird directories you have now and download and run the rpm. If you do not have kpackage installed you can use urpmi or rpm commands to install it. RE: any differences in files may be due to some extensions and things I added to MozillaFirebird after the install. So you do not need all the same packages necessarily, the important part is the permissions on the executable file. If yours are different, that points to the problem you are having. In Linux you should be able to check the MD5SUM of any package by going to the directory and typing $ md5sum <filename> (w/o brackets). Then you match the resulting LONG number with one on the download site. That tells you that your file is the same and not corrupted or tampered with by someone. But I didn't see a md5sum for MozillaFirebird on the site. Might be there, but I didn't find it in a quick look. Since I have a different release the md5sum will be different than yours so it is not helpful either. Again-- take the easy route for now and install the rpm would be my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paCkeTroUTer Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Thanks anon and kmack, the rpm worked without any problems :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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