Kadoka MoBo Installation Probs Mystery SOLVED (I think)!

Steve Scrimpshire · June 2, 2003

Mods: If this is would be better suited for Tips/Tricks, please feel free to move it, but I thought it would be seen better here.

Ok, so I just installed MDK 9.1 and noticed that Mandrake keeps setting my clock way wrong. I also see in syslog "modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135" around the time that it is synching the hardware clock to system time. I did a Google search for the modprobe error and discovered that it's because hwclock is trying to access /dev/rtc and support for that has not been compiled into the kernel. It's under Character devices -> Watchdog cards and the modules name is rtc.o (Real-Time-Clock...go figure). So, I thought I would enable that module in my kernel to see if that solved my clock problem. I attempted to reboot after this and guess what: booting froze at 'Configuring kernel parameters' (very near where it freezes if you install with the default MDK 2.4.x kernel). So, I had to take that module out and put

alias char-major-10-135 off

in my /etc/modules.conf file.

I still didn't solve my mysteriously changing clock though. Didn't have this problem in MDK 8.1 as far as the clock goes. I'm about to test my theory by compiling MDKs 2.4.x kernel sources with that module disabled.

P.S. Can someone do a

ls -l /dev/rtc

on their system for me? Because I had deleted it and recreated it with mknod and I want to make sure the permissions on it were correct and that's not the reason it wouldn't boot. Thanks!

kmack · June 2, 2003

kelly@localhost kelly]$ ls -l /dev/rtc

lr-xr-xr-x    1 root     root            8 Jun  2  2003 /dev/rtc -> misc/rtc

Is that what you need?

I don't think this is related to your particular problem, but DOlson has a nice tutorial on the clock problem. The default settings leave nntp and hw clocks fighting for control and it is very irritating.

http://icculus.org/~dolson/mdkxp/?c=ttrls/clockfix

Steve Scrimpshire · June 2, 2003

Thanks. Yours is just a link to /dev/misc/rtc. Can you post the output of this:

ls -l /dev/misc/rtc

Thanks.

Also, the tutorial you posted is probably useful in 99% of the cases like this, but it's not in my case. When you've forgotten to select 'No' for GMT, then MDK will change your clock's hours, but not minutes. My clock seems to be getting set to the exact same time each time I reboot 6:24 May 31 (which, as far as I can remember is not even the time I installed MDK 9.1) It might correspond to when I finally got my kernel recompiled, but I doubt it.

It also has screwed up my Gnome. I get funky lines across all the menus and it makes them unreadable (that happens when I set my clock usually, but now the display is permanently fubar in Gnome and I lost all my settings...the panel is empty).

kmack · June 2, 2003

[kelly@localhost kelly]$ ls -l /dev/misc/rtc

crw-r-----    1 root     root      10, 135 Jan  1  1970 /dev/misc/rtc

Steve,

Sorry I am slow to respond. Just back from lunch here in SE Asia. Sounds like a pain of a problem there. Hope you get it sorted out. Sounds like you have a good grip on it though!

Yes, I sort of figured Olson's tutorial didn't apply but wanted to add it for the sake others that have the more common variety problem and had not found it yet. :wink:

Steve Scrimpshire · June 3, 2003

Here's a little more info for those who may want to try to tackle this bug. I have no idea what any of this means, but someone on the South MS LUG mailing list asked me to send this info to him, so maybe it'll be of some use:

Output of strace -o trace1.txt hwclock --show (without gtc module loaded). There's about a minute and a half pause while hwclock is running, then it returns to the prompt with no output:

execve("/sbin/hwclock", ["hwclock", "--show"], [/* 51 vars */]) = 0

uname({sys="Linux", node="localhost", ...}) = 0

brk(0)                                  = 0x805065c

old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40013000

open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=61404, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 61404, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/lib/i686/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = 3

read(3, "177ELF111331260X1"..., 1024) = 1024

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1246468, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 1256516, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40023000

mprotect(0x40150000, 23620, PROT_NONE)  = 0

old_mmap(0x40150000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x12c000) = 0x40150000

old_mmap(0x40154000, 7236, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40154000

close(3)                                = 0

munmap(0x40014000, 61404)               = 0

gettimeofday({1054600434, 696204}, NULL) = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

brk(0)                                  = 0x805065c

brk(0x805165c)                          = 0x805165c

brk(0)                                  = 0x805165c

brk(0x8052000)                          = 0x8052000

open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2601, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40014000

read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.n#"..., 4096) = 2601

read(3, "", 4096)                       = 0

close(3)                                = 0

munmap(0x40014000, 4096)                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=370, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 370, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MEASUREMENT", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=28, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 28, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40015000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_TELEPHONE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=64, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 64, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40016000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_ADDRESS", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=160, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 160, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40017000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_NAME", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=82, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 82, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_PAPER", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=39, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 39, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40019000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=112, ...}) = 0

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=57, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 57, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001a000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MONETARY", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=291, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 291, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001b000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_COLLATE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21499, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 21499, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001c000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_TIME", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2456, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 2456, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40022000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_NUMERIC", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 59, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40156000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=178468, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 178468, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40157000

close(3)                                = 0

getuid32()                              = 0

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)  = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)  = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)  = -1 ENODEV (No such device)

open("/dev/tty1", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3

ioctl(3, 0x4b50, 0xbffff790)            = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)

iopl(0x3)                               = 0

stat64("/etc/adjtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0

open("/etc/adjtime", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 4

fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40183000

read(4, "0.0 0 0.0n0n", 4096)         = 12

read(4, "", 4096)                       = 0

close(4)                                = 0

munmap(0x40183000, 4096)                = 0

exit_group(1)                           = ?

Output of strace -o trace2.txt hwclock --show (with rtc module loaded). It hangs infinitely and I have to kill it with Ctrl-C:

execve("/sbin/hwclock", ["hwclock", "--show"], [/* 51 vars */]) = 0

uname({sys="Linux", node="localhost", ...}) = 0

brk(0)                                  = 0x805065c

old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40013000

open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)    = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)      = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=61404, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 61404, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/lib/i686/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)   = 3

read(3, "177ELF111331260X1"..., 1024) = 1024

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1246468, ...}) = 0

old_mmap(NULL, 1256516, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40023000

mprotect(0x40150000, 23620, PROT_NONE)  = 0

old_mmap(0x40150000, 16384, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 0x12c000) = 0x40150000

old_mmap(0x40154000, 7236, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40154000

close(3)                                = 0

munmap(0x40014000, 61404)               = 0

gettimeofday({1054598090, 956548}, NULL) = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

brk(0)                                  = 0x805065c

brk(0x805165c)                          = 0x805165c

brk(0)                                  = 0x805165c

brk(0x8052000)                          = 0x8052000

open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2601, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40014000

read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.n#"..., 4096) = 2601

read(3, "", 4096)                       = 0

close(3)                                = 0

munmap(0x40014000, 4096)                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=370, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 370, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40014000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MEASUREMENT", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=28, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 28, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40015000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_TELEPHONE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=64, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 64, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40016000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_ADDRESS", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=160, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 160, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40017000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_NAME", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=82, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 82, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_PAPER", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=39, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 39, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40019000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=112, ...}) = 0

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=57, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 57, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001a000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MONETARY", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=291, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 291, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001b000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_COLLATE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21499, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 21499, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001c000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_TIME", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2456, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 2456, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40022000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_NUMERIC", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 59, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40156000

close(3)                                = 0

open("/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=178468, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 178468, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40157000

close(3)                                = 0

getuid32()                              = 0

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)  = 3

close(3)                                = 0

stat64("/etc/adjtime", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0

open("/etc/adjtime", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3

fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=12, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40183000

read(3, "0.0 0 0.0n0n", 4096)         = 12

read(3, "", 4096)                       = 0

close(3)                                = 0

munmap(0x40183000, 4096)                = 0

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)  = 3

ioctl(3, RTC_UIE_ON, 0)                 = 0

read(3, 0xbffff71c, 4)                  = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)

--- SIGINT (Interrupt) @ 0 (0) ---

+++ killed by SIGINT +++

kmack · June 3, 2003

If only Neo was here to interpret that for us! :roll:

Steve Scrimpshire · June 3, 2003

Well, I can tell you just by guessing and deduction that the end of the output of when rtc is loaded and it hangs:

open("/dev/rtc", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
ioctl(3, RTC_UIE_ON, 0) = 0

read(3, 0xbffff71c, 4) = ? ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)

--- SIGINT (Interrupt) @ 0 (0) ---

I'm gonna guess that what is in bold is an iomem address, which, according to /proc/iomem is not assigned anything:

# cat /proc/iomem

00000000-0009fbff : System RAM

0009fc00-0009ffff : reserved

000a0000-000bffff : Video RAM area

000c0000-000c7fff : Video ROM

000f0000-000fffff : System ROM

00100000-17fdffff : System RAM

 00100000-00231b6b : Kernel code

 00231b6c-002a7a83 : Kernel data

17fe0000-17ff7fff : ACPI Tables

17ff8000-17ffffff : ACPI Non-volatile Storage

e4700000-f48fffff : PCI Bus #01

 e8000000-efffffff : nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440]

 f4880000-f48fffff : nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440]

f8000000-fbffffff : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-751 [Irongate] System Controller

fc9ff000-fc9fffff : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-751 [Irongate] System Controller

fca00000-feafffff : PCI Bus #01

 fd000000-fdffffff : nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440]

febe0000-febeffff : Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax/Voice/Spkp Modem

febfe000-febfefff : PCI device feda:a0fa (Epigram Inc)

febff000-febfffff : Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-756 [Viper] USB

fff80000-ffffffff : reserved

Those are just my uneducated guesses.

What does it mean? I have no clue.

:wink:

Edit: I've done the hwclock with the --directisa option turned on and even with rtc loaded, it does not hang, but there is still no output to stdout.

Steve Scrimpshire · June 3, 2003

I'm beginning to think that my kernel panic caused by ifplugd and the hwclock problem are related. I'm not on my linux box right now, so I'm going to paraphrase. I did a bunch of Googling and decided I would try the noapic option. I added it to my append line and even tried to use the 'Force no APIC' in Lilo configuration in MCC (which actually just adds the append line). Well, Mandrake just totally ignores that I have set noapic. A look at dmesg shows something like this:

APIC disabled in BIOS....re-enabling.

Why does it do that even after I set noapic?????

I have an AMI BIOS with this MoBo and 8.1 ran fine for me except for the original problem mentioned here and having to boot with the alternate kernel until I compiled a new one. I had no problems with the clock or HPNA card in 8.1. Seeing as ifplugd is version 0.34 (or something like that) in 9.1, I'm assuming it did not exist in 8.1.

A look in /proc/driver/rtc (I think that's the right path) shows my battery to be ok (I'll post the full output of that file when I get home), but it shows the time as 4 hours (I think) different from what MDK sets my clock to even though I specifically told it several times that my Hardware Clock is not set to GMT. I had found a mailing list archive site where one girl/woman/female/two-Y-chromosome-human (whichever is more politically correct) talked about not being able to use hwclock to set her clock and her symptoms were the same as mine and the suggestion was to reinstall util-linux (which I did) but that did not work for her or me.

I've also noticed a new thing while dissecting my system to diagnose this. In /var/log/messages/ I sometimes see "modprobe: Cannot locate module char-major-10-134" (I think those are the right numbers, whatever they are they are the major and minor numbers for /dev/apm), but I do not have apm compiled as a module. Here is a copy of my current kernel .config file:

http://omarserenity.com/.config

Note that this very same kernel and .config worked perfectly fine on 8.1. I've tried devfs nomount in the append line, too, which doesn't seem to do anything; it certainly doesn't change my situation. I have no idea what looks different when you mount devfs or not, if someone could tell me, I would greatly appreciate it.

P.S. Whatever you do, do not run this command:

# touch /usr/share/locale/locale-archive

if you don't have one. I did that when I noticed this up there:

open("/usr/share/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

and after you do that *everything* segfaults. Try to run any command in the console gives you a segfault and the only way to fix it is boot with the install CD and do rescue and delete /usr/share/locale/locale-archive

VeeDubb · June 4, 2003

most of this is a litle over my head, but here goes what I've got. If I'm being an idiot, feal free to just ignore me.

As for the clock getting set WAY wrong, whenyou install, by default it assumes that your harware clock is set to GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) NOt sure how to fix it post-install, but pre-install, when the screen opens with all the sysconfig stuff, make sure your timezone is set correct and either dissable that setting, or set your bios clock to GMT. This was the porblem and solution for me.

As for the AMI bios board related issues, sook for my thread in the install forum titled, "won't boot after install" the board i was using then was amibios and I had a lto of trouble but they all got fixed and the solution (whitch my short memory has robbed form me is there)

As helpfull as I can be.

Steve Scrimpshire · June 5, 2003

Um, the solution there came from me. :D I changed alot of things in my .config file so I wasn't sure exactly *which* part made the difference. The reason I started this thread is because I think it's the rtc module that causes the problem. In other words, I think I pinned it down.

Was it 9.1 that you installed on that box with the AMI BIOS? Did your clock get screwy?

And, like I mentioned to the kmack, it is not a GMT problem (you get a chance to change it post-install if you change your time zone in MCC...it asks you again...and I've done that 14 times). This is definitely not a GMT problem. Example. I reboot at 21:32 June 2 and the clock gets set to 6:24 May 31. I reboot at 13:12 June 3 and the clock gets set to 6:24 May 31. I reboot at 10:43 June 4 and the clock gets set to 6:24 May 31. Notice a pattern? ;)

Edit: For some very odd reason my clock just suddenly started working properly, even without the --directisa option I can use all the commands of hwclock and it doesn't get changed when I reboot. [begin Jerry Falwell impersonation] I'm HAY-ELD! [end Jerry Falwell impersonation]. So, I guess my assumption about the cause of Kadoka MoBo botting problems is wrong. Bummer.

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