So_it_goes Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Installed from dvd 2007 Spring free 32 bits on AMD system with Ati graphics. Set up urpmi enabled and update main main_updates contrib contrib_updates non-free non-free_updates #uname -a Linux localhost 2.6.17-15mdv #1 SMP Tue Aug 14 10:25:51 MDT 2007 i686 AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ GNU/Linux KDE was availiable at first , but when logging in and installig ati-stuff( my choice ) and then logging out I lost KDE somewhere ? Another problem is, when 'ps'ing as user I get "Error, do this: mount -t proc none /proc",,but as root there is no problems ? Any suggestions ? // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did you lose KDE, or the x-server in general? Are you able to login to ANY desktop/window manager environment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_it_goes Posted September 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did you lose KDE, or the x-server in general? Are you able to login to ANY desktop/window manager environment? Yes, I'm able to login to a gui with gnome, and the cli-logins is also accessible. /usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon is running. When trying to change login screen( to add kdm ), gnome complains that "You might in fact be using a different display manager, such as KDM or xdm. ...". I can understand that as,kdm is running and gdm is not. But where did my kdm alternative in the login screen disapper ? And why does I run gnome together with kdm, haven't been messing around with these things at all. Any connection with the , ps problems ? // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 (edited) You are running just one login manager at a time (KDM, GDM or XDM), but of course you have a choice of EVERY available desktop/window manager installed at your system. What's so strange about it? Please do a cli login, and from your virtual terminal type startkde and pass here the error messages you are receiving. Edited September 23, 2007 by scarecrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_it_goes Posted September 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hmm, sorry for my my phrasing. The strange thing isn't that I have a choice of DT/WM managers but that KDE got lost somewhere in the process. startkde as root or user gives : 'command not found' A 'find / -type f -name startkde' gives nothing as well. // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 I'd say KDE is missing from your system, somehow removed. If you've only just installed, I suggest redoing the install. It's far easier that way. Next time when you install something later, pay attention to any errors it shows up, it sounds like you installed something that removed KDE and you would have got notification of this when it happened, and probably just chose yes. At least, this is what I'm predicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 What do you get by doing some urpmi kdebase as root? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_it_goes Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) Thanks !! $ urpmi kdebase installed 7 packages. solved both my problems. It put back the KDE option in the login window and ps as user seems to work OK now. IanW: Yes probably, maybe I'll try again and check for specific KDE messages. // Edited September 24, 2007 by So_it_goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 It's quite possible that your current KDE (reinstalled by "urpmi kdebase") is missing quite a few nuts'n'bolts, but you can fill them later... As Ian said, "something" you have installed removed KDE base packages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_it_goes Posted September 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) Yes removed or not installed correctly. The only 'abnormal' :D thing installed was 2 ati packages. Now for the nuts and bolts. The ps problem got back searched and found no solution. $ ps Error, do this: mount -t proc none /proc $ su Password: xxxxx # mount -t proc none /proc mount: proc already mounted Scarecrow you've been an Ace so far , how about this one ? Does my selection of stronger security mess with the /proc accessability ? // Edited September 24, 2007 by So_it_goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ummm... since I do not mainly use Mandriva I do not have a real clue, but the "ps" command (as user) works for me in a Cooker installation (under VMWare) that I have handy. Is it wrong console ownership, or you are running at a high security level which forbids running "ps" as user? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted September 24, 2007 Report Share Posted September 24, 2007 For the proc thing, check your /etc/fstab you should have it entered in here to be mounted at boot. Here's a sample, from Ubuntu, but it'll work just fine for Mandy too: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 just in case it's missing, you can add this to yours and then reboot and see if it sorts it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So_it_goes Posted September 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 For the proc thing, check your /etc/fstab you should have it entered in here to be mounted at boot. Here's a sample, from Ubuntu, but it'll work just fine for Mandy too: proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 just in case it's missing, you can add this to yours and then reboot and see if it sorts it out. Tried that, didn't work. Then I checked the files and directories at / On my old installation I have root as user and group on this 2007 Spring I have adm as group at some places. The only difference is the security level selection in the installation phase. drwxr-x--x 2 root adm 2048 Sep 22 18:39 bin/ drwx--x--- 3 root ctools 1024 Sep 26 08:38 boot/ drwx--x--x 18 root root 14540 Sep 26 08:38 dev/ drwx--x--x 95 root adm 5120 Sep 26 18:02 etc/ drwxr-x--x 4 root adm 1024 Sep 22 19:13 home/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Sep 22 20:58 initrd/ drwxr-x--x 13 root adm 4096 Sep 26 08:38 lib/ drwx------ 2 root root 12288 Sep 22 18:44 lost+found/ drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Sep 22 18:51 media/ drwxr-x--- 4 root adm 1024 Sep 22 18:51 mnt/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Dec 6 2006 opt/ dr-xr-x--- 126 root adm 0 Sep 26 10:38 proc/ drwx------ 14 root root 1024 Sep 26 18:00 root/ drwxr-x--x 2 root adm 4096 Sep 22 18:39 sbin/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Mar 9 2007 srv/ drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 0 Sep 26 10:38 sys/ drwxrwx-wt 9 root adm 1024 Sep 26 18:03 tmp/ drwxr-x--x 14 root adm 1024 Sep 22 19:01 usr/ drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Sep 22 18:59 var/ Changed permissions chmod 555 /proc and ps worked fine. But some time later the permissions had changed back to drwxr-x--- and ps gave the 'mount proc ...' error again. So this is some internal safety handling when selecting 'higher' as Security level at installation. SOLVED BY : Changed the security level from higher to high, this removed adm as group and solved my problems. MENU: System->Configuration- >Configure Your Computer , same as cli ->mcc . Use the Options dropdown to select Expert Mode. Then Select Security and then select "Set the system security level and the periodic security audit." There you can change the 'Security Level' at the bottom of the screen, I changed it from higher to high. Out of curiosity : Can anyone please direct me to some documentation of these security levels ? // Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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