malfist Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Okay, some of you have been helping me with my update to 2007.1 from 2007.0, well I donwloaded the DVD and updated. Every thing looked pretty good, except X started restarting on me. I traced it down to when something tried to use OpenGL it crashed and restarted. So I checked my Nvidia drivers (GeForce FX 5200) and they looked okay. Then I tried to launch tremulous and it complained that I was using Mesa and had no OpenGL/3D libraries. So I uninstalled the Nvidia drivers and tried reinstalling them from MCC/urpmi. Well that seemed to go good. So I tried to set 3D up for it. It was crashing then, this time it didn't. I got the options and chose beryl. It said to restart X so I did and X couldn't run! Anyway, I kinda fixed that by getting the driver and installed from nvidia.com and it seems to be working. I can run Tremulous (but it still crashes when I go to set up 3D on MCC (and sometimes randomly). But now GNOME is hanging in load up, when it says loading panel. In about 5min or so, it will exit and display desktop and all that but I don't have a window decorator. I don't have one for GNOME or KDE (IceVM works though, the DK(something) restarts X when I try to run it). So now I try urpmi --update gnome-panel and it updates. Now GNOME still hangs on loading the panel and what is displayed is screwed up, I can't right click on the desktop anymore either. Anyone have any idea, any idea on how to fix this? I'm doing urpmi --auto-update but that's ~2GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 You say you run to update, and it want's to download about 2GB? That seems to me that your system hasn't fully upgraded at all. Either that, or there is a serious amount of updates available, and I doubt that. So, my guess is you have a mix of old and new packages, and this is what is causing all your problems. Suggest that you do: urpmi --auto-update and let it run. It will download and install packages as it goes, so if you run out of time, you can simply do CTRL-C and then shut down your computer, and then boot it up to continue another time. Also, after this, you'll have to make sure you are running the correct kernel within Mandriva 2007.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 After installing the nvidia proprietary drivers, either from the nvidia binary or from the plf repos, simply run as root: nvidia-xconfig This should take care of your GL-related problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfist Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm trying to update but I get the error, Not enough room on '/' (or something like that). I've tried resizing it from windows with Partition Magic but it won't mess with this ext3 for some reason, it always has before. What should I do? I've tried urpmi --clean but that didn't help. The root partition is about 1.3 GB and I don't have too much crap installed. I do have KDE which I would love to take off, how can I do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfist Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm moving everything over to the vista partition and am going to do a clean install of 2007.1 Fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm trying to update but I get the error, Not enough room on '/' (or something like that). The root partition is about 1.3 GBThat's a small / partition for KDE. Do you have room for a larger one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Agree with Greg, 1.3GB for / is not enough. Especially if /home has not been given a separate partition either. If you only set swap, / and /home, I recommend that / is minimum of 10GB. This is where all your applications will go when you install them. This is most likely why your system has failed so drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfist Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 I did a clean install and gave 2GB to swap and 20GB to /. Things still arn't working. I'm sorry, I'm going back to ubuntu where I know I can make it work. I wish ubuntu had the repos mandriva does though :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 That would have been good enough in terms of space. Surprised it wasn't working though. What problems this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 What for 2GB of swap? It's way too much, a regular desktop environment should never need more than 256MB or so... (also sprach Con Colivas, and I agree). If Ubuntu works for you, then stick to it. In any case, its repos are in no way inferior to Mandriva's- the annoying things about Ubuntu aren't it's repos, in any case! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfist Posted August 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) What wasn't working was my nvidia driver and beryl/compiz/compiz-fusion. Every time I tried to make it work, it just totally screwed over my system. What do you not like about ubuntu? The thing I don't like about urpmi is that sometime it will give the error message packageName could not be installed without an information, even in verbose mode. Mandriva's repos are a lot larger, or so it seems to me. I only compiled one program by hand in Mandriva and I have done several in Ubuntu. Malfist edit: about the 2GB swap, i have a 200GB HHD so I have the space for it :P I tend to agree with the 256MB limit because I do have 1GB of ram already. Edited August 23, 2007 by malfist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw1974 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 Red Hat still say it should be RAM multiplied by two for swap, which as we know anyway it's not necessary. However as a RHCE question, you could easily fail from not knowing this. Most people would not allocate this swap. As disk space is easily available now, I tend to allocate it on customer systems. My own where I can take the risk are a lot less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow Posted August 24, 2007 Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 What do you not like about ubuntu? The thing I don't like about urpmi is that sometime it will give the error message packageName could not be installed without an information, even in verbose mode. I mainly dislike two things about Ubuntu: 1. sudo/no-root , 2. the quick and dirty way they are repackaging Sid debs. The first one is "almost" fixable (a couple of annoyances remain), the second one... I'm afraid not. 'Mandriva's repos are a lot larger, or so it seems to me. I only compiled one program by hand in Mandriva and I have done several in Ubuntu. Actually they aren't... Ubuntu repos aren't as large as Debian's, but still there are plenty of packages in there. And Ubuntu's repos are always more up-to-date (shorter release cycle), unless you like to mess with Cooker. And compiling a basic deb in Ubuntu is fairly easy, while even the most basic RPM build (not from .src.rpm) requires writing a spec file yourself, which is far from easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malfist Posted August 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2007 Actually, if you do 'sudo su' it gives you root access as it you did 'su'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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